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      12-22-2010, 09:34 PM   #1
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I arranged to purchase a rep mtech rear bumper tonight. I was old the bumper was in great condition and had perfect fitment. Well i met the guy and look at the bumper and it look good but it was wrapped so i put it in my truck and drove off. When i got home i inspected the bumper in the light and realized there were holes and chips in the corners. So I called the guy up and said I'm bringing the bumper to your house can i have my money back. He gave me some bs story and basically wont meet me to give me my money back. Should i suck it up and move on or try to pursue this further??
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      12-22-2010, 10:14 PM   #2
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Should have looked at it.

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      12-22-2010, 10:20 PM   #4
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You definitely should have examined it closely, especially if it was wrapped up I would be suspect. Who's the scumbag seller?

The picture is huge and zoomed in so I'm not sure what I'm looking at, but the bumper is white so you need to have it painted anyway. I'm sure a good body shop will make it look perfect, give MAC a call.
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You definitely should have examined it closely, especially if it was wrapped up I would be suspect. Who's the scumbag seller?
I definitely should have taken a closer look and realized it was cheap FRP right away but i was being dumb and rushing so i didn't check unfortunately..

As to who this sbag is.. I Tried to purchase the bumper though ebay, it was a set front and rear. The ebay seller told me he had a previous buyer who was trying to offload the rear in NY and gave me his info. The rest is history...

He said he is a forum member.. His name is Tom and lives in Queens and drives an alpine white 335i...
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      12-22-2010, 10:29 PM   #6
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The picture is to show how the bumper is damaged. Its FRP and I cant put that on my car..
I don't know what i was thinking.. total fail.
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I definitely should have taken a closer look and realized it was cheap FRP right away but i was being dumb and rushing so i didn't check unfortunately..

As to who this sbag is.. I Tried to purchase the bumper though ebay, it was a set front and rear. The ebay seller told me he had a previous buyer who was trying to offload the rear in NY and gave me his info. The rest is history...

He said he is a forum member.. His name is Tom and lives in Queens and drives an alpine white 335i...
there's a member "tomz_335i" or something like that whos been trying to sell some mtech shit..

not being a snitch or anything, just helping out a fellow member bc pulling shit like that just isn't right.
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there's a member "tomz_335i" or something like that whos been trying to sell some mtech shit..

not being a snitch or anything, just helping out a fellow member bc pulling shit like that just isn't right.
That would be him.
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      12-22-2010, 10:33 PM   #9
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That would be him.
Here's a post by him, you can see if this is the same number or not, but the location and car match your description.

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I cant go lower than $150.....text or call me at 718-200-6112 if you want em...
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Here's a post by him, you can see if this is the same number or not, but the location and car match your description.
Thats his number and the exact bumper..

His email.

"No it looks like the fitment is dead on, but I did have a recent medical issue that put me in the hole for $2k, so I am recouping some of that (Xmas isnt helping)......which means any modifications have to go on hold for now. So I am selling this a bunch of personal items which includes this stuff."

I called the eBay seller and he told me this guy was VERY unhappy with the bumper and complained about the quality and fitment, but he told me the fitment was dead on...
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Thats his number and the exact bumper..

His email.

"No it looks like the fitment is dead on, but I did have a recent medical issue that put me in the hole for $2k, so I am recouping some of that (Xmas isnt helping)......which means any modifications have to go on hold for now. So I am selling this a bunch of personal items which includes this stuff."

I called the eBay seller and he told me this guy was VERY unhappy with the bumper and complained about the quality and fitment, but he told me the fitment was dead on...


Damn, man, I hope you can settle this out with him, that's a whole load of bullshit.. good luck!
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You really should've inspected, but definitely pursue him to get your money back.
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      12-22-2010, 11:03 PM   #13
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Damn, man, I hope you can settle this out with him, that's a whole load of bullshit.. good luck!
Thanks, but i called the dude 45 mins after the transaction and offered to return the bumper for a refund and he told me he already deposited the money into his atm. Then I said no worries ill drive you to your ATM and he then said my daughter is sleeping. He then said ill be sorry if i get him mad and then I lost it bc i would kill this scammer with my hands tied behind my back.. he then hung up the phone.
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      12-22-2010, 11:05 PM   #14
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You really should've inspected, but definitely pursue him to get your money back.
No doubt, lesson learned. It just that I would never do this to someone so I didn't expect it.. Not very New York of myself..
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      12-22-2010, 11:17 PM   #15
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Do people really put these fiber glass bumpers on their BMWs?
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      12-22-2010, 11:48 PM   #16
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Fair enough but can you please agree that Tom was unhappy with the bumper and wanted a refund bc he was very unsatisfied with the fitment and quality. All i'm trying to prove is that he misled me when he said the bumper was in good condition and was "dead on" and lied when he told me the reason he was selling was to pay medical bills... Thanks Mike.
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Michael,

It is hard for me to tell which part of the bumper that cracked? Any other picture?
Anyway, the bumper are still on primer, so those scratches will be gone after painting. Also, primed FRP bumper still need to be fitted, smoothed, and then painted.
As far as the crack, I don't know how did you and Tom deal business, but you should have inspected them correctly before you close the deal. I was not there so I don't really know what is exactly happening. What I know is, I sent to Tom the correct parts which doesn't have any issues and it is the same item as you saw on my listing.

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Mike,

I agree that he complained to me on those, but he didn't provide me with any pictures. But, he could have said that just trying to get the money back. In my believe and based on the few sets that I've sold, I never had such issues.

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Don't know the details (read the thread) but just throwing this out here...there's nothing stopping him from creating a second user on eBay to help unload his damaged sh*t, it could be him.

Otherwise, not much I'd say you can do at this point. I know i'll be a bit more cautious myself from reading this.
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Wait, so you knew he complained to the ebay seller about fitment and you still purchased it? I'm confused.

Good luck. But i'm not sure what the next step would be. I know you have his info, why don't you just stop by his house?

And no, you should put a fiber glass bumper on your car. It will crack.
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If u know where he lives just go show up to his house and get your money... It can be had
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just go to he's house and ask for the money , specialie after he told you that u will be sorry if u get him mad . It's like he's trying to punk u out too , f@cking scammer .
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      12-23-2010, 08:44 AM   #21
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Well we spoke thi morning and it looks like he is going to issue me a refund at 5 o'clock today. So as of now it looks like he is doing the right thing and is not a scammer. ill update this post later today...
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dam dude sorry to u had tpo deal with a scam artist like that...good luck with gettin your money back
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