Next car 2009 BMW 328i Sedan or 2008 Acura TL Type S?

specialized09 · 12-22-2010, 03:09 AM

What's your 2 cents? And yes I realize this is a BMW forum but play devil's advocate.

Majikthese42 · 12-22-2010, 07:32 AM

I wouldn't buy either.

For one thing, I already have a 328i -- I don't need two.

ForTheD · 12-22-2010, 07:38 AM

I love looking at the results, not a single TL voter at this point

Delta0311 · 12-22-2010, 07:52 AM

I'm sorry but the new TL looks like complete shit from the front.

slavke · 12-22-2010, 07:53 AM

well tl is quicker to 60 but driving dynamics are shot when you got almost 300hp on front wheels. I had a 04 V6 accord coupe with similar engine just a 3.0L instead of 3.5 and I know really well what understeer and torque steer are all about. If you dont care about how the car feels and its mostly comfort you are going for with some grunt at highway speeds get a tl.

GreenThree · 12-22-2010, 07:54 AM

Not a huge fan of the styling. Could never live with the torque steer from the FWD. But that's just me

slavke · 12-22-2010, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta0311

I'm sorry but the new TL looks like complete shit from the front.

he said 08 TL-s not the latest one. They got rid of type S line. One thing I will miss from my old honda is sound of V6 v-tech engine. Nothing just matches up to that.

shadco · 12-22-2010, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by slavke

he said 08 TL-s not the latest one. They got rid of type S line. One thing I will miss from my old honda is sound of V6 v-tech engine. Nothing just matches up to that.

Heresy

and you have an I6 under your hood according to your signature.

slavke · 12-22-2010, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shadco

Heresy

and you have an I6 under your hood according to your signature.

I said I used to have a v6 accord now I have 330i. Read the posts dude.

asuresh8 · 12-22-2010, 08:20 AM

I test drove one when shopping for my 335i, and...

The TL S-type is simply rubbish: Torque steer, understeer on curves, horrible transmission, bulky

328i doesn't have as much power, but it's a better car.

Michael Schott · 12-22-2010, 08:21 AM

Depends what the OP wants in a car. The TL-S is a nice car but not as sporting as the RWD 328i. It's larger, more powerful and more luxurious. It has way more features for the money than the 328i but does not drive as well as the BMW.

Wires · 12-22-2010, 08:31 AM

If the 08 TL-S has the SH-AWD, maybe.

I owned the CL-S in both an auto (2001) and 6 speed manual (2003).

It was a great car, excellent fit and finish, and that manual tranny was AMAZING. Butter shifts, no notchyness.

What I didn't like about the car was the FWD. It had 260HP, and the torque steer was brutal. Adding Comptech sway bars really helped the understeer, but it still liked to push into the corners.

I've never been in the newer Acura's so I can't help much on that, but I do know that my '08 335xi is amazing for power/handling, but from the "luxurious" standpoint, it's really plain on the inside, just like my 01 and 03 CL's were.

Obviously most people on this forum will bleed BMW, since this is a Bimmer forum, but I'd say drive the TL, and see what you think. If it has SH-AWD, I think it would be compariable to the 328, except you'd get a lot better reliability.

dashredder · 12-22-2010, 09:42 AM

I did a similar comparison about a year ago. The Acura is a very different animal compared to any 3-series. Drive them both in the same day. If driving is the deciding factor, you will be driving a 3-series. If bigger size is the deciding factor, you will be driving the Acura. The Acura had a great interior and felt more "luxury." Bigger, softer, squishy almost. Did not feel like the type of car that would get your blood pumping because it did not like to be driven fast, especially while on the go pedal. The 3-series was just a better car in most ways involving driving, stopping, turning, overall feel, etc. If I needed larger size / utility, the Acura was a hands down winner because it is a lot bigger and did offer more performance than the standard TL.

hipnotic · 12-22-2010, 09:46 AM

bmw

jaybird124 · 12-22-2010, 10:36 AM

I had an Acura for 38 days after my 328 lease went up. I loathed it. LOATHED it.

I love lots of cars other than BMW's. But I bought the Acura on a practicality buy. HATED it so much that I bit the bullet and traded it in for Diego, the Spanish Diesel.

ZoomZoom · 12-22-2010, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh06lau

bmw

But you voted Acura??

dsharma814 · 12-22-2010, 10:54 AM

I'd go BMW for better driving dynamics first and foremost, but also for better looks. The '08 Type-S TL looks pretty good compared to the new body style, but I'm still not a fan. The new Acuras are straight up ugly. Also, while the 328i is definitely a slower car, you can drive it faster since it is so well balanced. I haven't driven a manual 328i, but it's supposed to move pretty well with the 6MT.

bbbradley · 12-22-2010, 10:56 AM

Drive 'em both, as has been suggested, and the decision will be more obvious. While the two cars are in the similar price bracket, they are different segments in the true sense of the word.

Acura - Larger, smoother ride, perhaps a more appointed cabin with the accouterments to coddle your needs, straight line faster, and finally FWD.

BMW - Smaller, taught ride (harsh to some perhaps), more spartan interior, and RWD.

I like the looks of the previous generation TL, the new one is just awful, but between these two cars the BMW gets my vote for the RWD aspect if nothing else. I simply prefer RWD.

Coolieman1220 · 12-22-2010, 11:01 AM

fail wheel drive is all i have to say.. dont even give me SH-AWD BS...

Hooy · 12-22-2010, 11:31 AM

328i sedans are just about everywhere. 16 year old girls, 40 year old women, and men who can't afford (or for some reason didn't want) a 335i all love 328i sedans...

Only men opt for a TL-S as opposed to a normal TL. Go with the TL. It's faster in your daily commutes, more comfortable, more convenient, and looks less like a bitch car.

If you're even considering a FWD car, the track is somewhere you'll never be. As much as I love BMW, I won't deny the TL's excellent value.

dtc100 · 12-22-2010, 11:43 AM

I was going to include an Acura TL on my list of cars to test drive, but when I looked at its front end I crossed it out. Whoever designed that car, or all Acura late models must had some childhood bad experience with woodpeckers

Sometimes you just have to draw a line.

mike-y · 12-22-2010, 12:09 PM

I drove the previous model TL, and it was quite a nice car. but it is bigger and heavier than a 3 series, which you will definitely feel in the corners. The TSX is more in line with a 3 series as far as size and weight, and has much better handling than the TL.

Shame about what Acura did to the styling on their new cars though.

View Poll Results: Next car 2009 BMW 328i Sedan or 2008 Acura TL Type S?
2009 BMW 328i Sedan	78	71.56%
2008 Acura TL Type S	31	28.44%
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12-22-2010, 03:09 AM	#1
specialized09 New Member 4 Rep 14 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere out in the world iTrader: (0)	Next car 2009 BMW 328i Sedan or 2008 Acura TL Type S? What's your 2 cents? And yes I realize this is a BMW forum but play devil's advocate.
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12-22-2010, 07:32 AM	#2
Majikthese42 Philosopher-king 20 Rep 1,113 Posts Drives: 2008 E91 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: People's Republic of New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't buy either. For one thing, I already have a 328i -- I don't need two. __________________ E91 6MT Alpine, Terra, Xenons, ZSP, ZCW, ZPP, PDC, CA, alarm, M shifter and M brake handle, Euro rear fog light switch, Euro aspheric mirrors, rear power outlets, Garmin nüvi custom cupholder mount, Lidatek, V-1 built-in remote display, tire pump, jack, floor mats.
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12-22-2010, 07:38 AM	#3
ForTheD Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 251 Posts Drives: 2007 e90 335i 6MT (ZSP) Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Salem, OR iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [0.00]	I love looking at the results, not a single TL voter at this point
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12-22-2010, 07:52 AM	#4
Delta0311 Banned 7478 Rep 10,120 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335xi E92 2016 228xi Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	I'm sorry but the new TL looks like complete shit from the front.
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12-22-2010, 07:53 AM	#5
slavke Private First Class 8 Rep 164 Posts Drives: E90 330i sport & prem Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	well tl is quicker to 60 but driving dynamics are shot when you got almost 300hp on front wheels. I had a 04 V6 accord coupe with similar engine just a 3.0L instead of 3.5 and I know really well what understeer and torque steer are all about. If you dont care about how the car feels and its mostly comfort you are going for with some grunt at highway speeds get a tl.
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GreenThree Colonel 210 Rep 2,110 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (0)	Not a huge fan of the styling. Could never live with the torque steer from the FWD. But that's just me __________________ 2015 335xi \| Mineral Grey Metallic \| Black Dakota Leather \| NAV \| SportLine \| ZPP \| ZDA \| ZCW \| Munich Build Retired: 2008, 2011, 2013 328xi
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asuresh8 Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 262 Posts Drives: 09 911 C4s Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seattle iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	I test drove one when shopping for my 335i, and... The TL S-type is simply rubbish: Torque steer, understeer on curves, horrible transmission, bulky 328i doesn't have as much power, but it's a better car.
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12-22-2010, 08:21 AM	#11
Michael Schott Colonel 343 Rep 2,118 Posts Drives: 2017 VW GTI Sport Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Farmington Hills, MI iTrader: (0)	Depends what the OP wants in a car. The TL-S is a nice car but not as sporting as the RWD 328i. It's larger, more powerful and more luxurious. It has way more features for the money than the 328i but does not drive as well as the BMW.
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12-22-2010, 08:31 AM	#12
Wires Brigadier General 1646 Rep 4,877 Posts Drives: 2016 340i xDrive Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	If the 08 TL-S has the SH-AWD, maybe. I owned the CL-S in both an auto (2001) and 6 speed manual (2003). It was a great car, excellent fit and finish, and that manual tranny was AMAZING. Butter shifts, no notchyness. What I didn't like about the car was the FWD. It had 260HP, and the torque steer was brutal. Adding Comptech sway bars really helped the understeer, but it still liked to push into the corners. I've never been in the newer Acura's so I can't help much on that, but I do know that my '08 335xi is amazing for power/handling, but from the "luxurious" standpoint, it's really plain on the inside, just like my 01 and 03 CL's were. Obviously most people on this forum will bleed BMW, since this is a Bimmer forum, but I'd say drive the TL, and see what you think. If it has SH-AWD, I think it would be compariable to the 328, except you'd get a lot better reliability.
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12-22-2010, 09:42 AM	#13
dashredder Private 11 Rep 69 Posts Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Illinois iTrader: (7)	I did a similar comparison about a year ago. The Acura is a very different animal compared to any 3-series. Drive them both in the same day. If driving is the deciding factor, you will be driving a 3-series. If bigger size is the deciding factor, you will be driving the Acura. The Acura had a great interior and felt more "luxury." Bigger, softer, squishy almost. Did not feel like the type of car that would get your blood pumping because it did not like to be driven fast, especially while on the go pedal. The 3-series was just a better car in most ways involving driving, stopping, turning, overall feel, etc. If I needed larger size / utility, the Acura was a hands down winner because it is a lot bigger and did offer more performance than the standard TL.
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12-22-2010, 09:46 AM	#14
hipnotic Major General 149 Rep 6,604 Posts Drives: e92 335i Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (7) Garage List 2008 335i coupe [7.00]	bmw
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jaybird124 Major 156 Rep 1,046 Posts Drives: 2017 M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	I had an Acura for 38 days after my 328 lease went up. I loathed it. LOATHED it. I love lots of cars other than BMW's. But I bought the Acura on a practicality buy. HATED it so much that I bit the bullet and traded it in for Diego, the Spanish Diesel. __________________ '17 M3 Imola Red/Carbonstructure Cloth, Competition, Lighting, 6MT Retired: '93 325i \|'99 Jeep Wrangler Sport \|'06 330i Sport \|'08 335i Sport \|'08 328i Sport \|'09 335d Sport
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12-22-2010, 10:54 AM	#17
dsharma814 Private 5 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2006 330xi Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Pennsylvania iTrader: (0)	I'd go BMW for better driving dynamics first and foremost, but also for better looks. The '08 Type-S TL looks pretty good compared to the new body style, but I'm still not a fan. The new Acuras are straight up ugly. Also, while the 328i is definitely a slower car, you can drive it faster since it is so well balanced. I haven't driven a manual 328i, but it's supposed to move pretty well with the 6MT.
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12-22-2010, 10:56 AM	#18
bbbradley Resident Alien 6 Rep 301 Posts Drives: A4 for now, Miata for fun! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Beantown iTrader: (0)	Drive 'em both, as has been suggested, and the decision will be more obvious. While the two cars are in the similar price bracket, they are different segments in the true sense of the word. Acura - Larger, smoother ride, perhaps a more appointed cabin with the accouterments to coddle your needs, straight line faster, and finally FWD. BMW - Smaller, taught ride (harsh to some perhaps), more spartan interior, and RWD. I like the looks of the previous generation TL, the new one is just awful, but between these two cars the BMW gets my vote for the RWD aspect if nothing else. I simply prefer RWD.
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12-22-2010, 11:01 AM	#19
Coolieman1220 Banned 73 Rep 1,770 Posts Drives: 2010 335d Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New York City iTrader: (0)	fail wheel drive is all i have to say.. dont even give me SH-AWD BS...
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12-22-2010, 11:31 AM	#20
Hooy Colonel 205 Rep 2,770 Posts Drives: E92 328i, E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (12) Garage List 2008 E92 328 [5.00]	328i sedans are just about everywhere. 16 year old girls, 40 year old women, and men who can't afford (or for some reason didn't want) a 335i all love 328i sedans... Only men opt for a TL-S as opposed to a normal TL. Go with the TL. It's faster in your daily commutes, more comfortable, more convenient, and looks less like a bitch car. If you're even considering a FWD car, the track is somewhere you'll never be. As much as I love BMW, I won't deny the TL's excellent value.
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12-22-2010, 11:43 AM	#21
dtc100 Lieutenant Colonel 28 Rep 1,522 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 328i 6AT non-sport Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Norcal iTrader: (0)	I was going to include an Acura TL on my list of cars to test drive, but when I looked at its front end I crossed it out. Whoever designed that car, or all Acura late models must had some childhood bad experience with woodpeckers Sometimes you just have to draw a line.
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12-22-2010, 12:09 PM	#22
mike-y just another bmw douche bag 195 Rep 3,640 Posts Drives: 1.9L of fury Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (4)	I drove the previous model TL, and it was quite a nice car. but it is bigger and heavier than a 3 series, which you will definitely feel in the corners. The TSX is more in line with a 3 series as far as size and weight, and has much better handling than the TL. Shame about what Acura did to the styling on their new cars though.
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