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335i procede vs gto, sti, e46 m3, 550, 545, gti
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02-10-2007, 04:21 PM | #1 |
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335i procede vs gto, sti, e46 m3, 550, 545, gti
So last night (more like in the monring) I had the chance to see how well the procede 335i held up vs the competition. Did this around 3 am so only cars on the freeway were us.
Sorry this time I suck and dont have any pictures of barley any videos. It was so damn dark that my camera couldnt pick up anything. Next time tho ill be sure to get better footage. Anyways to the info. The players : 335i : procede, 330 rwhp, 370 wtq. gto : 3.91 and every single bolt on you can think of. 389 rwhp 392 wtq sti : larger FMIC, CIA, turbo back exhaust ( hp unknown ) 550i : exhaust ( hp unknown ) 550i : exhaust ( hp unknown, show car ) 545i : stock ( hp unknown ) gti 20th anniversary : Stage 3+ apr turbo ( hp unknown ) e46 m3 smg2 : 3.91 Gears, dont know what else ( hp unknown ) There was also a big turbo a4 there but I didnt get to run him. Anyways to the good stuff. I know that the sti are dogs from the roll and I could probably have taken my friend when I was stock. But those sti's arent to be taken lightly. We did 3 rolls from 60 and i would immediately get the jump. But by 100 mph I was gone about a bus length. I raced my buddies gto and I was suprised how well I kept up. from a 40-140, 60-140, 80-140. I kept my pace he was only about 1.5 CLs away from all those gears / speed. The gti, only got to run once but he was in the wrong gear he said so it was over once i steped on the gas. 550i show car. was very slow due to his m5 exhaust modification and its a show car so it has very heavy wheels body kit ect. 550i kept up about 1 to 1.5 cars behind me until i hit 120-125 then he was about 2 Cl's behind? 545i stock. Only got to race ken 1 time. But with the procede its a huge difference. And now what everyone is waiting to hear... Me vs my buddies m3. Now for you guys that do highway rolls. in a 6 speed manual @ 80 mph, please downshift to 3rd. I was doing it to 4th which I am use to and he was keeping up which suprised me a lot. With the new power band from the procede you have to get use to it. I never use to downshift to 3rd from 80 before but now I do. My buddy told me that he was downshifting to 3rd from 80. So I was like, ill try it also. At 80 in 3rd your about 5k rpm's which leaves you 2k more rpms for peak hp. I didnt get to try it with me downshifting to 3rd since he had to leave. But im not going to make any excuses his car is fucking fast... If i was stock, his car would rape me up and down the highway. Just the gears alone is a killer. Stock for stock tho Ive raced many m3's from 20-120, 40-130. And it was dead even, or I would creep up about 25% of a CL. I will say it again drews car is a factory beast. I dont know what it is. But other m3's ive raced Ive took from a roll when I was stock. But not by much. Hes probably lieing to me and running a s/c. hahahah The races between me and him were very very close. Anything below 80 mph I would get the jump easy. But 100+ mph where the m3 shines is a big advantage. Could only pull 25% - 1 CL at 100+ mph From a dig tho the 335i has a huge advantage from the torque. I will need to do more digs with him since we only got to do 1. Even tho I had a passenger I dont think it would have made a differance. Heres some footage ( the only footage ) i have. 335i vs sti 60-110 mph in 3rd 335i vs m3 80-130 mph in 4th 335i vs m3 80-140 mph in 4th Hope you guys enjoy and sorry again no footage. Btw someone please make some gears for the 335i. Oh and i forgot, 335i with procede installed just rips through the traction control. Somtimes I forgot to take traction control off and it would just keep pulling like it was never on.
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02-10-2007, 04:38 PM | #3 |
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Thanks, if anything I was suprised on how that m3 would do.
No one wanted to race from a 60 mph roll where the 335i really shines. Only person that wanted to was my buddy with the gto. All the 550's only wanted to race from 90mph since thats there power band.
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02-10-2007, 05:24 PM | #4 |
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Hey Sherwin,
What up? Here are the numbers for the 545/550s: 545i (SMG and 6-speed): 325 hp/ 330 torque 550i (SMG and Step): 360 hp/360 torque The SMGs can start in 2nd @60 mph which puts us in our power band. You and I, in my 545 SMG, ran in 3rd @90 mph b/c it was a tad difficult to drop to 60 mph at that time. Of course, even with me honking the horn and getting a jump on you it didn't take you long to catch up and walk me. When you ran the 550i Step, he can't hold 60 mph in 2nd. It will upshift for him dropping him out of his powerband. That's why when you ran the 550i Step it was from 3rd gear. The 550i Step is the e60 that can best take on a stock 335i. hollywoodtrash, who's here, has the 550i SMG and lost to the 550i Step before in previous Meets. Always the same results. It's b/c hollywood has the heavy azz 20" Radenergie wheels and SMG tranny. |
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02-10-2007, 05:27 PM | #5 |
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Ah ok cool thanks alot joe for the clear up.
ya a good race would be a stock 335i vs stock 550 step at a 80 mph rolls for sure.
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02-10-2007, 07:01 PM | #6 |
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Hahah thanks man. Ill get more footage when i get a better camera.
Ill most likey have some on the 16th or before since we are going to hit up qual comm track then.
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02-10-2007, 07:50 PM | #7 |
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It seems like your friends have some modded cars (and some are majorly modded like the GTO), but it's encouraging to hear that you either beat 'em or kept up fairly close.
So, I wonder how a PROcede-equipped 335i would do against a stock GTO, a stock 550i, and a stock M3? Good work though...thanks for sharing.
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02-10-2007, 07:57 PM | #8 |
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335i with procede vs those stock car wouldnt be such a fair race.
But naw I didnt beat my buddies gto. He takes me by about 1.5 cars. Thanks a lot. Also his gto is the 6.0 liter ls2 400/400 stock 3800-3900 lbs
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02-10-2007, 08:31 PM | #9 |
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I bet it would be closer vs. the GTO from a dig, though; you might even be able to take him from 0-60mph or 0-100mph from a standstill...if you can actually hook up quickly for a decent launch, of course.
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We did 2 runs from a dig 0-80 First run the gto and I couldnt hook up, so the 550 took off. 2nd run, We took off the gto started pulling about 75% of a car and held about 1 car length all the way too 80. Remember the gto has DR's, and im still running on the stock tires. So I guess its time for me to get some 275's. I believe the 550 was about 2 cars behind us.
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02-10-2007, 09:00 PM | #14 |
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Hahha, where did you bail to last night ken?
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02-10-2007, 09:45 PM | #17 |
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Ya you suck, me and drew can never get a hold of you. Hahahha
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02-10-2007, 10:32 PM | #19 |
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True, he's a lame ass.
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No headers, here are my mods, 3.91 gears, pullies, streamline filter, SS section 1. I ran a 12.8 at 108 in the 1/4 mile, not too far off what Shiv did, better ET but slower trap, but not by much. I have raced three of my buddie's Modded M3's and after 100 I walked them at least 2 CL's or more. Ran a few other stock M3's and pulled easily. There has been a few that I'm even with up to 100, but after that I usually walk. We also ran a heavily modded Big Turbo GTI and an A4, that make as much to the wheels that sherwin and I do, and we both easily pulled on them, my buddies A4 did seem to have problems though. Most impressive of all is that Sherwin looked to be dead even with a 400WHP GTO when they flew past me. His car is the real deal with the procede. I was a bit suprised too I thought he'd destroy me, however, Sherwin makes a good point and my guess is he will easily beat me in the 1/4 mile and from a 2nd gear roll would jump out a car or two ahead and it would stay there, with him slightly creeping maybe to 3 CL's up to 140. We'll try and do some other runs, but my car is not fair to compare highway runs, I simply got lucky with this car it is faster than most NA M3's. We did do a few other runs, where I thought it was pretty even, it all depended on who took off 1st, but in these two vids no doubt Sherwin creeped ahead, I let off in the 1st vid do to a Semi. In the 2nd run he did good and was creeping as well before I let off due to traffic ahead. With race fuel I think he'd been 2-3 CL's ahead, we'll see, good stuff Sherwin, fun times! :rocks:
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Me and him have both raced modded m3's and both walked them. His car is just freakishly fast.
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Was this the guy in the M3 dropping it to 3rd? I am just curious how much RPM he has left in 3rd at 80mph with those 3.91 gears? (Yeah, I know I could calculate it )
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Thing is, if your acceleration is already traction limited, you might also need wider rubber and/or drag radials. And LSD might help too because even though you are not cornering when you launch obviously, if the chassis flex just enough it could cause uneven traction on one side of the car. That's probably less an issue in a BMW though. |
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