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      12-19-2010, 03:20 PM   #1
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How can I not operate the defroster properly...

This is my first BMW, as I've previously had Japanese cars which made it simple. I hit the defrost, and it turns on the AC and pumps cold air on the windshield, and always worked beautifully. Bought the BMW 9 months ago,and wehaven't had any crazy weather until now, and boy, my glass stays frosty and fogged for a good portion of the time when I have the windshield wipers going.

I hit the button defrost, it cranks out whatever temp is currently set on the climate control (whether it be 60 or 84), but it doesn't work all that well. To make things work, every time the blades come across the windshield, that just blurs everything even more.

I drove home for an hour trying all sorts of configurations including using the ac, adjusting temperature, cracking a window, and couldn't find one that did an awesome job. Suggestions?
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      12-19-2010, 03:48 PM   #2
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I live where it's rediculous COLD and I just leave my HVAC in auto mode. After a little while heat is directed at the windshield to keep it defrosted. If it's not keeping up in auto mode, I hit the top "defrost" button like you said and it pours out all kinds of hot air on the windshield for a super defrost effect. The only thing I can think of is you may be using windshield washer fluid that is a summer blend and it's just flash freezing on your windshield? That's assuming there's nothing actually wrong with your HVAC. Good luck.
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      12-19-2010, 04:10 PM   #3
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BMW's get foggy real easy... Don't know why =_= And it's supposed to be hot air to evaporate the condensation.
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the defrost button works for me just let it run for a little bit. If that doesn't work turn the ac on blast and open the windows
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      12-19-2010, 07:08 PM   #5
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Don't know this defroster seems to be the best I have ever had !! Super fast - just a few seconds and all clear. Never fogs up again.
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Hmmm. Maybe the inside of my windshield is dirty? I never thought to check that. But every time those wipers roll over the windshield, which is just about every second, it blurs up. It's a new car, so the blades aren't bad or anything.
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      12-19-2010, 08:00 PM   #7
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I noticed that having the AC on gets rid of the fog faster.
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I noticed that having the AC on gets rid of the fog faster.
Yes that takes the moisture out of the air which you are seeing on the windshield as fog. That is one of the reasons that in AUTO mode the AC light is on all the time.
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      12-20-2010, 02:31 AM   #9
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Yes that takes the moisture out of the air which you are seeing on the windshield as fog. That is one of the reasons that in AUTO mode the AC light is on all the time.
Auto mode for regular climate? Or Auto for defrost? Maybe I should re-read the manual, because I remember my Acura it would defrost and keep the temp inside the car comfortable. If the BMW is gonna blast heat at me when it's already humid outside, thats gonna be a bummer.
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Auto mode for regular climate? Or Auto for defrost? Maybe I should re-read the manual, because I remember my Acura it would defrost and keep the temp inside the car comfortable. If the BMW is gonna blast heat at me when it's already humid outside, thats gonna be a bummer.
OK I did notice this morning that when I put on the defroster it automatically came out of AUTO mode. What I did not notice is if the AC condensor went off too or not. I will check again later and see. But I do know that when I just let the car do what it thinks is best it works VERY fast.

Edit to add: I did check this afternoon and the AC compressor does stay on when you go into defrost mode but it does come out of AUTO mode.

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      12-20-2010, 11:43 AM   #11
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This is my first BMW, as I've previously had Japanese cars which made it simple. I hit the defrost, and it turns on the AC and pumps cold air on the windshield, and always worked beautifully. Bought the BMW 9 months ago,and wehaven't had any crazy weather until now, and boy, my glass stays frosty and fogged for a good portion of the time when I have the windshield wipers going.

I hit the button defrost, it cranks out whatever temp is currently set on the climate control (whether it be 60 or 84), but it doesn't work all that well. To make things work, every time the blades come across the windshield, that just blurs everything even more.

I drove home for an hour trying all sorts of configurations including using the ac, adjusting temperature, cracking a window, and couldn't find one that did an awesome job. Suggestions?
Hi,

For optimal defogging, the A/C must be turned on and the temperature setting turned to hot. You are correct that on many Japanese cars, the A/C comes on automatically when you turn on the defroster for the windshield.

It's interesting that you find that to be a nice feature; I find it to be one of the most annoying and infuriating features on my wife's Subaru. In normal ventilation conditions, I like having the airflow management set to "defrost" simply because I don't like air coming at me from the vents (dries out my eyes). In the Subaru, I can't do that since there is no way to turn off the A/C.

In the e9x, I leave the airflow on "defrost" always and find it to be very comfortable.

Regards.
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      12-23-2010, 01:24 AM   #12
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Hi,

For optimal defogging, the A/C must be turned on and the temperature setting turned to hot. You are correct that on many Japanese cars, the A/C comes on automatically when you turn on the defroster for the windshield.

It's interesting that you find that to be a nice feature; I find it to be one of the most annoying and infuriating features on my wife's Subaru. In normal ventilation conditions, I like having the airflow management set to "defrost" simply because I don't like air coming at me from the vents (dries out my eyes). In the Subaru, I can't do that since there is no way to turn off the A/C.

In the e9x, I leave the airflow on "defrost" always and find it to be very comfortable.

Regards.
I guess the question would be, when your cruising around with the defrost on, what temp do you set it at? 60? 84? Or somewhere in the middle thats comfortable for you?
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      12-23-2010, 06:41 AM   #13
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No one brought this up, but are you using the correct defrost setting? The HVAC system has two buttons that direct air to the windshield. Looking at the HVAC controls, the top button on the left side with the arrow pointing up is for flowing air to the windshield when not in auto mode. The top button on the right is for windshield defrost. Hit that button and the system automatically directs air to the windshield at full blast (max fan speed).
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      12-23-2010, 07:53 AM   #14
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I guess the question would be, when your cruising around with the defrost on, what temp do you set it at? 60? 84? Or somewhere in the middle thats comfortable for you?
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No one brought this up, but are you using the correct defrost setting? The HVAC system has two buttons that direct air to the windshield. Looking at the HVAC controls, the top button on the left side with the arrow pointing up is for flowing air to the windshield when not in auto mode. The top button on the right is for windshield defrost. Hit that button and the system automatically directs air to the windshield at full blast (max fan speed).
I think Entity might have hit it on the head here. When you are using Defrost I do not change the temp settings at all. Just hit the defrost button and let it do the rest until the windshield is clear and then hit back to AUTO.
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I think Entity might have hit it on the head here. When you are using Defrost I do not change the temp settings at all. Just hit the defrost button and let it do the rest until the windshield is clear and then hit back to AUTO.
Yea, I always hit the defrost on the top right, but does it always use the same temp? I never check.

And maybe I'm crazy, but I never use or know how to use the Auto climate control feature. Worth while?
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      12-26-2010, 01:27 AM   #16
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defroster should be air conditioned cold air to remove the moisture from the air, not warm/hot air.

so far mine is working great, but in the part of socal that i live in it rarely gets below 40 degrees.
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Mine works great. The air is cold also to remove condensation.
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