A little annoyed with my 3-series.....

GTGeo96 · 02-03-2007, 09:35 AM

Anyone else have a problem with the position on the window buttons on the E90??

Maybe i just have short arms, but it seems to me like they are about 2 inches too far forward, often i findmyself pressing the window button and opening the back window instead of the front window that i intended to open.

a friend of mine and i were arguing about this today...hes ordering a 5 series almost all because of this annoyance on the 3series. I know it may sound like im being extremely annal, but we work with these cars all day every day, and this happens all the time, just wondering if any of you guys have noticed this.

s4iscool · 02-03-2007, 09:45 AM

yes its annoying, and been griped about many times on here, just search

EHDEN · 02-03-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by s4iscool

yes its annoying, and been griped about many times on here, just search

+1

aRangel · 02-03-2007, 10:09 AM

You're right. I have also noticed that but not big deal.

DrDomer · 02-03-2007, 10:11 AM

No problem here... I have no back windows. Just buy a coupe.

STE92VE · 02-03-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GTGeo96

Maybe i just have short arms, but it seems to me like they are about 2 inches too far forward, often i findmyself pressing the window button and opening the back window instead of the front window that i intended to open.

a friend of mine and i were arguing about this today...hes ordering a 5 series almost all because of this annoyance on the 3series.

Do what I did....get the coupe and you don't have to worry about the rear windows!

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

No problem here... I have no back windows. Just buy a coupe.

GMTA

ski360 · 02-03-2007, 10:41 AM

boostmiser · 02-03-2007, 10:47 AM

I noticed that too when I test drove the car. Didn't like it at all.

willpooted · 02-03-2007, 10:51 AM

You'll get used to it. Leaning forward to hit the window switch makes for good exercise

beauderek · 02-03-2007, 11:10 AM

I've opened the back windows by mistake, too. Time to trade for a 6 series.

ironic · 02-03-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DrDomer

No problem here... I have no back windows. Just buy a coupe.

i was actualy surprised BMW doesn't have back windows in the new coupe, i didn' notice till i brought the car home

i guess they were never all that functional in the e46, but it feels like the car is kinda bare w/o them. i thik bmw decided to cut corners on the rear windows.

canucklion · 02-03-2007, 11:34 AM

yes, we've noticed

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=window
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=window

tirana · 02-03-2007, 12:31 PM

My gripe is that it can be tricky to put the window back up when wearing winter gloves (wish my parking garage had a proximity detector for the barrier instead of a card reader

). No problems with the position though....

LEDZEP · 02-03-2007, 01:02 PM

Nope, never heard anyone mention this before.

valeram · 02-03-2007, 01:26 PM

I didn't notice it until somebody mentioned it. It don't bother me though so maybe I am just a minority here.

ALPINE6SPD · 02-03-2007, 02:24 PM

I have never had an issue with this.

KevinC · 02-03-2007, 03:13 PM

Still annoying after 18k miles.

The solution to this, ASSuming they needed to have the switches so far forward for some reason, would be to have the front & rear switches have a different shape/feel.

Miami Bimmer06 · 02-03-2007, 03:17 PM

Yep happens to me, but i learned to deal with it.

FirstClass · 02-03-2007, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrDomer

No problem here... I have no back windows. Just buy a coupe.

+1

Quote:

Originally Posted by ironic

i was actualy surprised BMW doesn't have back windows in the new coupe, i didn' notice till i brought the car home

i guess they were never all that functional in the e46, but it feels like the car is kinda bare w/o them. i thik bmw decided to cut corners on the rear windows.

I think that pop out back windows are a gimick, essentially useless, and add needless complexity and weight. Plus every car I've been in with them they howl like crazy at speed. (Though admittedly none of those have been an e46)

Plus if we had them we'd have button issues

lkevinl · 02-03-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by willpooted

You'll get used to it. Leaning forward to hit the window switch makes for good exercise

Great way to work the abs while driving!

Joop! · 02-03-2007, 05:22 PM

why did they change it in the first place. The place on the centerconsole next to the shifter (e.g. E46) is the perfect place for these swithes.

Some thing with the indicator(stalk) and the cruisecontrol(stalk). Why didn't BMW leave them respectively mechanical and on the steeringwheel?

Should I continue...? Seat controls, dashboard-layout, ...

Oh, I still love my E46 coupe...

But what's most important they didn't ruin the ride of the car, it's actually better. So all the above mentioned changes don't bother me.

But BMW should remember: "Changes doesn't always make the car better"

FirstClass · 02-03-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brummelenj

why did they change it in the first place. The place on the centerconsole next to the shifter (e.g. E46) is the perfect place for these swithes.

Some thing with the indicator(stalk) and the cruisecontrol(stalk). Why didn't BMW leave them respectively mechanical and on the steeringwheel?

Should I continue...? Seat controls, dashboard-layout, ...

Oh, I still love my E46 coupe...

But what's most important they didn't ruin the ride of the car, it's actually better. So all the above mentioned changes don't bother me.

But BMW should remember: "Changes doesn't always make the car better"

I would hate window switches on the center console. Almost every car has them on the door, why be confusing? The e46 had turn signals on the wheel??? Wow that would be weird, but very Enzo-like in a cool way.

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DrDomer Major 39 Rep 1,349 Posts Drives: 2004 330ci ZHP, 1999 Miata Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0)	No problem here... I have no back windows. Just buy a coupe. __________________ Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves. ~Albert Einstein
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tirana Lieutenant 15 Rep 575 Posts Drives: M2 6MT + F25 35i AT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (2)	My gripe is that it can be tricky to put the window back up when wearing winter gloves (wish my parking garage had a proximity detector for the barrier instead of a card reader ). No problems with the position though....
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valeram Major 37 Rep 1,413 Posts Drives: 992 TTS, 991.2 GT3 T, F80 M3 C Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Dublin, OH iTrader: (0)	I didn't notice it until somebody mentioned it. It don't bother me though so maybe I am just a minority here.
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Joop! Major 105 Rep 1,181 Posts Drives: G29 Z4 M40i Roadster Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019/05 G29 Z4 M40i [10.00]	why did they change it in the first place. The place on the centerconsole next to the shifter (e.g. E46) is the perfect place for these swithes. Some thing with the indicator(stalk) and the cruisecontrol(stalk). Why didn't BMW leave them respectively mechanical and on the steeringwheel? Should I continue...? Seat controls, dashboard-layout, ... Oh, I still love my E46 coupe... But what's most important they didn't ruin the ride of the car, it's actually better. So all the above mentioned changes don't bother me. But BMW should remember: "Changes doesn't always make the car better" __________________ BMW - Maßstab für Fahrspaß
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