More WHP on a tight budget. . . 2500 USD

padaman420 · 10-28-2010, 11:21 AM

Hi,

I just got my 335xi 2007 and I have a 2500$ budget to get more WHP out of it.

Any suggestions ??

themyst · 10-28-2010, 11:25 AM

tune, downpipes, meth, intake, and maybe FMIC.

2500 is more than enough to get big horsepower.

Procede = 945, downpipes = 200, meth kit + failsafe = 460, intake 130, intercooler 700.

2435 total.

That setup had me put down 424whp on a blazing hot, humid day.

tofu- · 10-28-2010, 11:28 AM

You can go with full bolt ons

Downpipes
FMIC
Intake

And a tune to wrap it all up

OpenFlash · 10-28-2010, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themyst

tune, downpipes, meth, intake, and maybe FMIC.

2500 is more than enough to get big horsepower.

Procede = 945, downpipes = 200, meth kit + failsafe = 460, intake 130, intercooler 700.

2435 total.

That setup had me put down 424whp on a blazing hot, humid day.

+1

turb0 · 10-28-2010, 11:49 AM

or buy it used when you can have money left over!

v4-$750 or jb3- $200-350
downpipes: $200
intake: $75 (DCI)
intercooler: $300-600
Meth: $300-600

actually you could have a lot of money left over haha

Jonny550 · 10-28-2010, 11:54 AM

Jb3 or Procede- $350-940 depending witch route you decide to go.
Intake---------$120
Meth----------$250-700 depending witch kit failsafes etc.
downpipes-----$160-200 raceland downpipes

The FMIC will help but the mods above will in fact get you above 400whp easy the FMIC will help a lil bit.

Search all of the above items and see witch one you like.

TwinTurboXI · 10-28-2010, 01:33 PM

I dont believe the Raceland DP's ($200) fit on the XI without a lot of adjustment...

Save yourself the headache and get XI specific dp's

tscdennab · 10-28-2010, 01:43 PM

JB3 PnP - $549
Agency Power 335xi downpipes - $540
ETS FMIC - $650 (GB)
BMS DCI - $95
==================
TOTAL ~$1850

Optional: Top Speed Exhaust - $700

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-28-2010, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padaman420

Hi,

I just got my 335xi 2007 and I have a 2500$ budget to get more WHP out of it.

Any suggestions ??

If you're out of warranty here is what I suggest.

JB3 Pin-Out - 349.00
Coolingmist VC-2 Meth Kit - 599.00
DCI - 95.00
AMS FMIC - 890.00
RaceLand DPs - ~300.00 - Need to verify XI fitment
Forge DVs - ~300.00

total 2500.00 + one happy 335 owner

Mike

Iwantm3 · 10-28-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

If you're out of warranty here is what I suggest.

JB3 Pin-Out - 349.00
Coolingmist VC-2 Meth Kit - 599.00
DCI - 95.00
AMS FMIC - 890.00
RaceLand DPs - ~300.00 - Need to verify XI fitment
Forge DVs - ~300.00

total 2500.00 + one happy 335 owner

Mike

what's that ?

kenneth · 10-28-2010, 02:41 PM

Unless you are good at DIY, budget install costs.

very rough estimates
DP - 4 hrs (XI likely more)
FMIC - 1-3 hrs depending on fit/trimming etc

turb0mik3 · 10-28-2010, 04:41 PM

F%ck getting more HP, throw in an LSD, way more worth it and no warranty issues. And i don't know if people are adding tax and installation for all the parts...

turb0mik3 · 10-28-2010, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

Jb3 or Procede- $350-940 depending witch route you decide to go.
Intake---------$120
Meth----------$250-700 depending witch kit failsafes etc.
downpipes-----$160-200 raceland downpipes

The FMIC will help but the mods above will in fact get you above 400whp easy the FMIC will help a lil bit.

Search all of the above items and see witch one you like.

You know if you run all that without an intercooler you will heatsoak your engine to shit right?

Intercooler should be the first performance modification.

themyst · 10-28-2010, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mflowt5

You know if you run all that without an intercooler you will heatsoak your engine to shit right?

Intercooler should be the first performance modification.

+1

Don't believe us? Take a look at the back half of a quarter mile run. You'll see 21-22 mph with the stock FMIC, and 24+ on an aftermarket. It's one of the most essential mods if you plan on running high boost.

MKE_M3 · 10-28-2010, 06:06 PM

+1 for the intercooler. I also recommend an oil cooler if you like to drive hard. Tune too.

Procede + CPE Oil/Intercooler + meth = 950 + 1000 + (not sure how much a meth kit is)

kjrulz · 10-28-2010, 06:28 PM

Cheap
Jb3 - 350
Downpipes - 170
Intercooler - 350
DCI - 100
Meth - 400

Total = 1370

Expensive
Procede - 700
Downpipes - 600
Intercooler - 700
DCI - 100
Meth - 400

Total = 2500

By the way...Neither is right or wrong, it's all about what you feel is best for you.

I personally believe the Procede is better and is worth the extra bucks. However, between the Raceland downpipes and AR downpipes, it's more of a matter of 5-10 horsepower. So these are things you must ask yourself.

themyst · 10-28-2010, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjrulz

Cheap
Jb3 - 350
Downpipes - 170
Intercooler - 350
DCI - 100
Meth - 400

Total = 1370

Expensive
Procede - 700
Downpipes - 600
Intercooler - 700
DCI - 100
Meth - 400

Total = 2500

By the way...Neither is right or wrong, it's all about what you feel is best for you.

I personally believe the Procede is better and is worth the extra bucks. However, between the Raceland downpipes and AR downpipes, it's more of a matter of 5-10 horsepower. So these are things you must ask yourself.

and where can I find the thread that proves the 2.5" dps are 5-10whp less than the AR pipes? I think that's a bunch of baloney.

OpenFlash · 10-28-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themyst

and where can I find the thread that proves the 2.5" dps are 5-10whp less than the AR pipes? I think that's a bunch of baloney.

I'm not a believer either. Each turbo is only pushing, at most, 250hp worth of exhaust. 2.5" should be more than enough for that power level. And considering that even a 3" DP necks down to 2.5" by the midpipe, it's even less convincing.

BrianMN · 10-28-2010, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themyst

and where can I find the thread that proves the 2.5" dps are 5-10whp less than the AR pipes? I think that's a bunch of baloney.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...schnell+2.5%22

here's MR. 5's comparo

OpenFlash · 10-28-2010, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianMN

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...schnell+2.5%22

here ya go buddy

That's not conclusive. In fact, it's unlikely that those gains would be caused by the larger ID downpipes. The power gains, if in fact present, should manifest at higher rpm/exhaust flow, not across the board as it did in the dyno. At 3500rpm, each turbo is pushing only ~120whp worth of exhaust. No way in heck that a 2.5" pipe would be measurably restrictive.

I'd chalk up the gains to something else (ignition advance, operating conditions, IAT, etc,.) Unless all inputs/outputs are being controlled and monitored, these kind of comparison are anything but conclusive.

I'm not trying to discount the inherent merits of a larger ID exhaust. All I'm saying is at this relatively low power level (per turbo), it's very unlikely that you will see gains after a certain point. And claiming 10-15whp is very unlikely.

Shiv

FrankiE90 · 10-28-2010, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padaman420

Hi,

I just got my 335xi 2007 and I have a 2500$ budget to get more WHP out of it.

Any suggestions ??

hey padaman420, like the 420 in ur name, welcome to the forums.
2500 is more than enough to get you started on performance mods.

try a tune - alot of HP for the buck.
(be aware of what it can do to ur warranty if caught , just research)
Exhaust
Intake

I'm sure once you start - you'll find out more info with performance mods for the N54 engine - like many members have listed.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-28-2010, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianMN

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...schnell+2.5%22

here's MR. 5's comparo

+1

Good info there.

Mike

10-28-2010, 11:21 AM	#1
padaman420 New Member 1 Rep 5 Posts Drives: 335xi 2007 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: montreal iTrader: (0)	More WHP on a tight budget. . . 2500 USD Hi, I just got my 335xi 2007 and I have a 2500$ budget to get more WHP out of it. Any suggestions ??
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themyst Major General 177 Rep 6,631 Posts Drives: '16 MK7 GTI Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC iTrader: (8)	tune, downpipes, meth, intake, and maybe FMIC. 2500 is more than enough to get big horsepower. Procede = 945, downpipes = 200, meth kit + failsafe = 460, intake 130, intercooler 700. 2435 total. That setup had me put down 424whp on a blazing hot, humid day. __________________ E90 LCI N54 6AT
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tofu- Banned 87 Rep 2,854 Posts Drives: 335i Jet Black/Coral Red Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: nyc iTrader: (4)	You can go with full bolt ons Downpipes FMIC Intake And a tune to wrap it all up
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turb0 First Lieutenant 31 Rep 307 Posts Drives: g05 x5 45e Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Southeast iTrader: (6)	or buy it used when you can have money left over! v4-$750 or jb3- $200-350 downpipes: $200 intake: $75 (DCI) intercooler: $300-600 Meth: $300-600 actually you could have a lot of money left over haha __________________ e92 JB/CR 335 // CF GTR Hood // CF HM Splittters // CF Ericcsson Trunk // CF HM Quad Diffuser // Shadowline Trim // Matte Black 19" Vortex VT996 // JB Reflectors // Black Grills // 20% Tint // JB3 2.0 // DCI
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Jonny550 Brigadier General 241 Rep 4,936 Posts Drives: 2012 550i Xdrive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jersey Shore iTrader: (14)	Jb3 or Procede- $350-940 depending witch route you decide to go. Intake---------$120 Meth----------$250-700 depending witch kit failsafes etc. downpipes-----$160-200 raceland downpipes The FMIC will help but the mods above will in fact get you above 400whp easy the FMIC will help a lil bit. Search all of the above items and see witch one you like. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] .
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TwinTurboXI Lieutenant Colonel 160 Rep 1,523 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . iTrader: (12)	I dont believe the Raceland DP's ($200) fit on the XI without a lot of adjustment... Save yourself the headache and get XI specific dp's
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kenneth Major General 125 Rep 8,745 Posts Drives: 335i Sedan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal iTrader: (16)	Unless you are good at DIY, budget install costs. very rough estimates DP - 4 hrs (XI likely more) FMIC - 1-3 hrs depending on fit/trimming etc __________________ SB, Terra, 6MT. Only a few mods here and there.....nothing extreme!
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MKE_M3 Lieutenant Colonel 65 Rep 1,705 Posts Drives: 2011 e90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Milwaukee, WI iTrader: (0)	+1 for the intercooler. I also recommend an oil cooler if you like to drive hard. Tune too. Procede + CPE Oil/Intercooler + meth = 950 + 1000 + (not sure how much a meth kit is)
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kjrulz Mastermind 71 Rep 1,360 Posts Drives: girls krazy Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: your mother iTrader: (5)	Cheap Jb3 - 350 Downpipes - 170 Intercooler - 350 DCI - 100 Meth - 400 Total = 1370 Expensive Procede - 700 Downpipes - 600 Intercooler - 700 DCI - 100 Meth - 400 Total = 2500 By the way...Neither is right or wrong, it's all about what you feel is best for you. I personally believe the Procede is better and is worth the extra bucks. However, between the Raceland downpipes and AR downpipes, it's more of a matter of 5-10 horsepower. So these are things you must ask yourself.
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