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      10-18-2010, 10:58 PM   #1
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My Dinan Stage 3 dyno compared to stock

I got my car on the dyno today after having Dinan Stage 3 put in about one week ago. I have the stock dyno run on the graph for comparison(dotted line).
The temp was 82 degrees for the stock runs and 84 degrees for the Dinan runs. They were done on the same dyno and with the same type of gas. 91 octane. There was a problem with the exhaust sensor for the A/F ratio, that is why there is that bump in it.
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I'm a Dinan owner myself and therefore can't read dynos well. Can you summarize the peak gains in HP and TQ over stock?
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With the Dinan hes putting 319rwhp and 378rwtq

Stock he was putting 260rwhp and 287rwtq

Not sure which type of dyno is this but its not a dynojet so really you cant compare to most dynos here. But his gain is 59rwhp and 91rwtq.
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59rwhp over stock?

Seems low for the $$$
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So this is with the intercooler, exhaust, etc. right?
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I'm a Dinan owner myself and therefore can't read dynos well.


Intercooler, but exhaust and intake are stock.
The car temp barely went up during the three runs which surprised me considering they didnt have one of those huge fans, just two floor fans.
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59 hp?

Should have got a jb3/v4
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Seems kind of low for Stage 3. They advertise 408hp so about 360whp... But the dyno seems to be a Mustang which reads a bit low. 260whp stock is bit higher than on a Mustang though. You could probably get 330whp on a Dynojet which is still low.
If you spent the money on the Dinan Stage 3, I think you should also get their intake to maximize the gains.
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I may get the intake and an exhaust in the future, but have been busy with soe other things fornow. I had looked at other tunes but then I probably would have had to pay for getting all 6 injectors, 2 turbos and the wastegates replaced out of my own pocket so i feel like I am doing ok. I know it is not the biggest gains out there, but i got a 31% increase in torque and 23% increase in hp and some injectors, turbos, and who knows what else in the next 6 months.
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I may get the intake and an exhaust in the future, but have been busy with soe other things fornow. I had looked at other tunes but then I probably would have had to pay for getting all 6 injectors, 2 turbos and the wastegates replaced out of my own pocket so i feel like I am doing ok. I know it is not the biggest gains out there, but i got a 31% increase in torque and 23% increase in hp and some injectors, turbos, and who knows what else in the next 6 months.
what is the cost of a Dinan stage 3??
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For reference my car BONE stock on a local mustang dyno (they say its even a low for a mustang dyno) made 226whp. With FULL bolt ons it made 257 and then with tune and meth 350+ at moderate boost levels (like 15psi).
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Seems kind of low for Stage 3. They advertise 408hp so about 360whp...
Dinan advertises 380fwhp on 91 octane and 408fwhp on 93 octane for Signature 3, which also includes the CAI. But they also advertise the same 408fwhp for Stage 3 on 93 octane without the CAI.

But that is par for the course with Dinan. They use different measuring approaches for this or that for no apparent reason. I think they just make sure they're not claiming too much and otherwise don't really care.
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Dinan advertises 380fwhp on 91 octane and 408fwhp on 93 octane for Signature 3, which also includes the CAI. But they also advertise the same 408fwhp for Stage 3 on 93 octane without the CAI.

But that is par for the course with Dinan. They use different measuring approaches for this or that for no apparent reason. I think they just make sure they're not claiming too much and otherwise don't really care.
I've been reading up on Dinan stuff and I was under the impression that all their figures are HP at the crank and tend to be the most conservative of all the tuners. But at the same time they're the only ones that match your warranty.
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what a waste of $
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For reference my car BONE stock on a local mustang dyno (they say its even a low for a mustang dyno) made 226whp. With FULL bolt ons it made 257 and then with tune and meth 350+ at moderate boost levels (like 15psi).

CP-E's dyno is a low low reading Mustang dyno, they will even admit that.
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Dinan advertises 380fwhp on 91 octane and 408fwhp on 93 octane for Signature 3, which also includes the CAI. But they also advertise the same 408fwhp for Stage 3 on 93 octane without the CAI.

But that is par for the course with Dinan. They use different measuring approaches for this or that for no apparent reason. I think they just make sure they're not claiming too much and otherwise don't really care.

if they are converting to front wheel drive that may explain the massive price for the performance
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that's really low...you sure you don't have a boost leak or bad plugs or something? Can't believe it'd be only 59whp more
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what a waste of $
I have a friend that likes expensive haircuts and gets frequent massages. I pay for a service to come mow my grass every week. Neither of these make any sense to the other person, but my point is people are going to spend their money how they see fit.

While these gains may not be worth it to you, I like seeing this info about all the tunes that are out there. It is good reference for all of us. I have a Dinan tune myself, and it was installed at the Dealership where I purchased my CPO. As mild and relatively expensive as these tunes are, keeping the warranty as hassle free as possible with a noticeable improvement in power is worth it for some of us.

That said, when my warranty is up, I'll be wiping my flash and getting a more aggressive tune. Relax man
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I put this up so people considering this as a possibility would have some real world info. I didnt wnt to start another debate over whichh tune is best. People have thier reasons for picking one over the other and I can respect that. I have been having problems with the car not running at full performance and that is why it was reflashed back to stock and how i got the baseline dyno. The dealership has not been able to find a problem with the car because they rely so heavily on codes rather than symptoms and physically diagnosing the car. If it doesnt throw a faulkt code, then it aint broke is thier motto.
The cost may have been a little higher on the front end, biut when the car needed new injectors(all 6), then new turbos and waste gates, it was taken care of by Dinan, and that is one of the biggest reasons I went with dinan. Not the most powerful tune, but i am covered, and in this car that is a big thing.
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I put this up so people considering this as a possibility would have some real world info. I have been having problems with the car not running at full performance and that is why it was reflashed back to stock and how i got the baseline dyno. The dealership has not been able to find a problem with the car because they rely so heavily on codes rather than symptoms and physically diagnosing the car. If it doesnt throw a faulkt code, then it aint broke is thier motto.
The cost may have been a little higher on the front end, biut when the car needed new injectors(all 6), then new turbos and waste gates, it was taken care of by Dinan, and that is one of the biggest reasons I went with dinan. Not the most powerful tune, but i am covered, and in this car that is a big thing.
aint that the truth.
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Unless you can show proof that Dinan replaced your injectors and turbos I don't believe it..
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Unless you can show proof that Dinan replaced your injectors and turbos I don't believe it..
Are you implying that Dinan lied to him because it sure sounds like it.
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