Quick JB3 2.0 to Procede V4 review

cuban335i · 10-16-2010, 01:25 PM

Hey guys,
I just switched from jb3 2.0 to Procede v4 and I'm even happier than I thought I'd be with my decision. I'm just going to leave you with a VERY quick review of my findings. Let's begin:

Install:
The Installations are pretty much the same, but the procede youtube videos explaining everything are much easier to understand.
Rating (out of 10):
JB3: 9.5
Procede: 10

Computer software:
The user interfaces are very different. The procede computer software is much easier to use and understand, while the jb3 software is primitive at best. I love how the procede software actually tells you that you are connected to the procede itself, while the jb3 you kind of have to guess that things are hooked up and your communicating with the chip (this was my impression, maybe it was different for others).
Rating (out of 10):
JB3: 5
Procede: 8 (The com setup confused me a bit)

Code reading/clearing + O2 sims:
I love how these are built in to the procede and you don't have to buy "add-ons" to make your chip up to speed.
Rating (out of 10):
JB3: 6 (simply because you have to pay more for these options)
Procede: 10

Auto-tuning:
I haven't tested this out yet because I haven't been able to do and 3rd gear WOT pulls, so I can't comment on this besides saying that it's a sick idea.
Rating (out of 10):
JB3: 5 (only get's these points because it will supposedly have it on the G4 board, but they are still way behind procede)
Procede: 8 (not 10 simply because I haven't tested it yet)

Map Switching/ dash displays:
The map switching is MUCH MUCH better on the procede. On the JB3, you pretty much have to guess what map you are on because you have to use the gas pedal to switch maps (very archaic in my opinion). I love how the RPM gauge actually tells you what map you are on for the procede (VERY cool). Finally, the boost and AFR gauges work awesome and are very conveniently located.
Rating (out of 10):
JB3: 3
Procede: 9

Driving:
This was the best part. When the car was relatively cool, boost was very limited (i don't have exact numbers because i didn't think to remember them at the time), but as the oil temps rose, so did the boost and i did a couple WOT pulls in 2nd gear and max boost was VERY consistent once warmed up (which i really liked). The power felt much smoother, yet very strong. I would even argue that my car felt faster than when I had the JB3 in (and this is without autotuning calibrated).
Rating (out of 10):
JB3: 8.5
Procede: 9

Total score (out of 60):
JB3: 37
Procede: 54

PROCEDE WINS! lol

Disclaimer: I know the ratings are kind of arbitrary, but they can give a general scale to of the superiority of the procede

Ilma · 10-16-2010, 01:56 PM

Gotta agree with you about power delivery, more intuitive datalog grahpics all in one spot (including timing) and map switching that is just fantastic - especially on the fly.

Nice to see someone else who converted and came to similar conclusions.

Enjoy!

bryce · 10-16-2010, 04:45 PM

i completely agree with your summary. i recently switched from an 18 OHM jb3 to a procede v4. night and day difference in drivability, smooth throttle response, and overall performance. i love the fact that the procede is bypassed until the oil temps increase to operating temps. the boost gauge, automatic dp-fix, and current map display via cruise control stalk are all brilliant extra features IMO.

cn555ic · 10-16-2010, 05:36 PM

LOL! I told you Matt that you were going to feel a night a day difference! Glad your enjoying it...

techlogik · 10-16-2010, 05:38 PM

Yeah, but just wait for G4!

I liked the Procede for the short time I had it, the code clearing/reading features, CAN features, set it and forget it Autotune...and nice power gains were all good stuff.

BrianMN · 10-16-2010, 05:47 PM

My thoughts on the upgrade are very similar.

DR_E92 · 10-16-2010, 06:50 PM

pretty good review... I would have to agree. I made the switch and have had the same positive feelings about the Procede

Sniz · 10-16-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by techlogik

Yeah, but just wait for G4!

I liked the Procede for the short time I had it, the code clearing/reading features, CAN features, set it and forget it Autotune...and nice power gains were all good stuff.

oh no you didunt

vase330 · 10-16-2010, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryce

i completely agree with your summary. i recently switched from an 18 OHM jb3 to a procede v4. night and day difference in drivability, smooth throttle response, and overall performance. i love the fact that the procede is bypassed until the oil temps increase to operating temps. the boost gauge, automatic dp-fix, and current map display via cruise control stalk are all brilliant extra features IMO.

I think that is a bit inaccurate sir.

AFIK only the boost and general tune is bypassed. You may however have noticed the bucking and reluctant transmission operation when cold is now completely smoothed out? Aparently that is the PROCede at work. Oh wait, you live in Texas, you probably have never felt this anyway. People in cold areas know what I am talking about. Now it operates same as when its hot.

645Nm · 10-17-2010, 02:51 AM

Enjoy your new tune.

I still enjoy my kick arse archaic tune and look forward to the new features of the JB4...

Motorsport.Nick · 10-17-2010, 07:23 AM

Nice review.

I really enjoy seeing people who take the time to inform others. The forum gods are pleased.
Enjoy it man, I'm jealous.

cuban335i · 10-17-2010, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cn555ic

LOL! I told you Matt that you were going to feel a night a day difference! Glad your enjoying it...

lol yea definitely night and day. I don't know why I didn't make the switch sooner.. and thanks bro

Quote:

Originally Posted by 645Nm

Enjoy your new tune.

I still enjoy my kick arse archaic tune and look forward to the new features of the JB4...

thanks, and yea the JB4 will be nice, but all the features it will have are already implemented into the procede, so you'll just be playing catchup lol

bryce · 10-17-2010, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vase330

I think that is a bit inaccurate sir.

AFIK only the boost and general tune is bypassed. You may however have noticed the bucking and reluctant transmission operation when cold is now completely smoothed out? Aparently that is the PROCede at work. Oh wait, you live in Texas, you probably have never felt this anyway. People in cold areas know what I am talking about. Now it operates same as when its hot.

maybe you're right. i just remember reading this that shiv posted:

Quote:

Now, we not only start dropping boost levels when oil and coolant temps get uncomfortably high, we also drop boost when the engine is cold. So right upon start-up (on a cold engine), the PROcede isn't even doing anything. As oil temps start to creep above 150F, the tune starts to "ramp in" reaching "full strength" at 190F were it stays until ~250F. Then above that, the tune starts to "ramp out" with it dropping back to stock boost/power by 280F. I think this feature will be very welcome for those who don't have an oil cooler or track their car regularly and see temps teetering in the 260+ range.

Jonny550 · 10-17-2010, 02:40 PM

I NEED 1!

OpenFlash · 10-17-2010, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon335iFL

I NEED 1!

I'd like you to use 1 too

Brey335i · 10-17-2010, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'd like you to use 1 too

best post in this thread

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-17-2010, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 645Nm

Enjoy your new tune.

I still enjoy my kick arse archaic tune and look forward to the new features of the JB4...

The upcoming G4 is pretty awesome. Partial throttle response is instant and with the new adaptive boost control system it hits the target lighting fast every time. Being able to pick maps and dash display options with the steering wheel controls is pretty slick too. You're going to love it.

Mike

Jonny550 · 10-17-2010, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I'd like you to use 1 too

lol

cstmx_ryder · 10-17-2010, 11:03 PM

He already has it, it's called the Procede V4..........LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by techlogik

Yeah, but just wait for G4!

I liked the Procede for the short time I had it, the code clearing/reading features, CAN features, set it and forget it Autotune...and nice power gains were all good stuff.

OpenFlash · 10-17-2010, 11:16 PM

Imagine what 2011 v4 will offer

. Electrolytes!

Brian135i · 10-18-2010, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Imagine what 2011 v4 will offer

. Electrolytes!

LMAO!!!

Ferre86 · 10-18-2010, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Imagine what 2011 v4 will offer

. Electrolytes!

simply what he said

10-16-2010, 01:25 PM	#1
cuban335i Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,550 Posts Drives: 535i xdrive Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: central NJ iTrader: (18)	Quick JB3 2.0 to Procede V4 review Hey guys, I just switched from jb3 2.0 to Procede v4 and I'm even happier than I thought I'd be with my decision. I'm just going to leave you with a VERY quick review of my findings. Let's begin: Install: The Installations are pretty much the same, but the procede youtube videos explaining everything are much easier to understand. Rating (out of 10): JB3: 9.5 Procede: 10 Computer software: The user interfaces are very different. The procede computer software is much easier to use and understand, while the jb3 software is primitive at best. I love how the procede software actually tells you that you are connected to the procede itself, while the jb3 you kind of have to guess that things are hooked up and your communicating with the chip (this was my impression, maybe it was different for others). Rating (out of 10): JB3: 5 Procede: 8 (The com setup confused me a bit) Code reading/clearing + O2 sims: I love how these are built in to the procede and you don't have to buy "add-ons" to make your chip up to speed. Rating (out of 10): JB3: 6 (simply because you have to pay more for these options) Procede: 10 Auto-tuning: I haven't tested this out yet because I haven't been able to do and 3rd gear WOT pulls, so I can't comment on this besides saying that it's a sick idea. Rating (out of 10): JB3: 5 (only get's these points because it will supposedly have it on the G4 board, but they are still way behind procede) Procede: 8 (not 10 simply because I haven't tested it yet) Map Switching/ dash displays: The map switching is MUCH MUCH better on the procede. On the JB3, you pretty much have to guess what map you are on because you have to use the gas pedal to switch maps (very archaic in my opinion). I love how the RPM gauge actually tells you what map you are on for the procede (VERY cool). Finally, the boost and AFR gauges work awesome and are very conveniently located. Rating (out of 10): JB3: 3 Procede: 9 Driving: This was the best part. When the car was relatively cool, boost was very limited (i don't have exact numbers because i didn't think to remember them at the time), but as the oil temps rose, so did the boost and i did a couple WOT pulls in 2nd gear and max boost was VERY consistent once warmed up (which i really liked). The power felt much smoother, yet very strong. I would even argue that my car felt faster than when I had the JB3 in (and this is without autotuning calibrated). Rating (out of 10): JB3: 8.5 Procede: 9 Total score (out of 60): JB3: 37 Procede: 54 PROCEDE WINS! lol Disclaimer: I know the ratings are kind of arbitrary, but they can give a general scale to of the superiority of the procede __________________ Current: '13 F10 535i xDrive - lightly modded for now Previous: '12 e92 M3 Melbourne Red/Bamboo - ADV.1 ADV10, Volk TE37SL, OSS, Innotech F1, Arkym, iND '09 e92 335i Alpine White/Saddle Brown - fully modded
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Ilma Colonel 184 Rep 2,841 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mississauga iTrader: (0)	Gotta agree with you about power delivery, more intuitive datalog grahpics all in one spot (including timing) and map switching that is just fantastic - especially on the fly. Nice to see someone else who converted and came to similar conclusions. Enjoy!
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10-16-2010, 04:45 PM	#3
bryce Banned 103 Rep 3,177 Posts Drives: zhp 3-pedal Join Date: May 2010 Location: texas iTrader: (22) Garage List 2005 bmw 330ci zhp [7.34] 2008 bmw 135i- sold [6.00] 2007 bmw 335i- sold [7.14]	i completely agree with your summary. i recently switched from an 18 OHM jb3 to a procede v4. night and day difference in drivability, smooth throttle response, and overall performance. i love the fact that the procede is bypassed until the oil temps increase to operating temps. the boost gauge, automatic dp-fix, and current map display via cruise control stalk are all brilliant extra features IMO.
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10-16-2010, 05:36 PM	#4
cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	LOL! I told you Matt that you were going to feel a night a day difference! Glad your enjoying it...
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techlogik Lieutenant Colonel 70 Rep 1,565 Posts Drives: 2020 M340i Dravit Grey Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL iTrader: (2)	Yeah, but just wait for G4! I liked the Procede for the short time I had it, the code clearing/reading features, CAN features, set it and forget it Autotune...and nice power gains were all good stuff. __________________ 2020 M340i: Dravit Grey Mettalic. Loaded.
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BrianMN Banned 114 Rep 2,428 Posts Drives: 4 Door Family Sedan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (7)	My thoughts on the upgrade are very similar.
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10-16-2010, 06:50 PM	#7
DR_E92 Lieutenant 13 Rep 506 Posts Drives: 07 E92 Coupe Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (1)	pretty good review... I would have to agree. I made the switch and have had the same positive feelings about the Procede __________________ and go nuts
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Motorsport.Nick Captain 162 Rep 689 Posts Drives: M Sedans Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portland iTrader: (0)	Nice review. I really enjoy seeing people who take the time to inform others. The forum gods are pleased. Enjoy it man, I'm jealous. __________________ Nick \| 2011 Competition Package M3 Sedan \| @Restoration_Motorsport on IG
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