[skimo]

I found this, but no mention of BMW.

http://www.inautonews.com/safest-cars-2010

I am looking for some sort of ranking by class or so. More specifically, I am trying to see how BMW ranks against Audi. A couple of friends have been saying that Audi the "safest car on the market" , as a BMW fan, I am trying to find some literature about this.

Thanks
skimo

[ZoomZoom]

When I think safety I always think Volvo ...That's why my wife is in a XC90.

[The J-Man]

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

When I think safety I always think Volvo ...That's why my wife is in a XC90.

[Wires]

Originally Posted by The J-Man

I've heard Volvo as well. Mind you, Honda and BMW are really high up there for safety.

I think that video was during testing. Nothing works according to plan during initial testing.

[hmmcolor]

In my opinion, as long as it's not Chinese or Indian it's safe enough. Sure Volvo can design a car to be great in a pre-planned test situation. If you know what's on the test it's easy to study. In the real world I think it's a bit more up to luck.

[cb1111]

Here you go

BMW 3 series

http://www.adac.de/_ext/itr/tests/Cr...MW3er_2005.pdf
and
http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_s...2005detail.htm

Volvo XC90

http://www.adac.de/_ext/itr/tests/Cr...oXC90_2003.pdf

Honda Fit (Jazz in Europe)

http://www.adac.de/infotestrat/tests...spx?IDtest=278

[JoeyBananaz18]

honestly, the only reviews i need to read are the threads made from E9x drivers after they've been in a bad accident and they say how they walked away without a scratch. That's enough for me.

[ZoomZoom]

Originally Posted by The J-Man

That was a epic fail...It was testing and how many Volvo brake recalls have you seen? I'm quickly finding out if you say anything other than BMW around here it's a bad thing.

[ZoomZoom]

Originally Posted by JoeyBananaz18

honestly, the only reviews i need to read are the threads made from E9x drivers after they've been in a bad accident and they say how they walked away without a scratch. That's enough for me.

Will you also take into account the ones that died? or got seriously injured or that doesn't matter...

[cb1111]

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Will you also take into account the ones that died? or got seriously injured or that doesn't matter...

Yeah - most of the ones that died stop posting here.

[David1]

If it's you time to die it's your time to die no matter what you are driving.

[JoeyBananaz18]

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Will you also take into account the ones that died? or got seriously injured or that doesn't matter...

lol true lol. but in all honesty iv read many many thread on that demonstrate how safe and well built these cars are. iv seen M3s flipped over, 335s get sandwiched on the highway and many other. With that said.....

Originally Posted by David1

If it's you time to die it's your time to die no matter what you are driving.

.....I also understand that no 2 accidents can be fully reproduced with every contributing factor. Every accident is different. The truth is that even the safest Volvo in the world can still be involved in a fatal accident. From what i'v seen so far, BMW makes pretty safe cars.

[ChasVS]

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

That was a epic fail...It was testing and how many Volvo brake recalls have you seen? I'm quickly finding out if you say anything other than BMW around here it's a bad thing.

Wow, you be one smart guy! It's a BMW Forum... go figure.

[ChasVS]

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Will you also take into account the ones that died? or got seriously injured or that doesn't matter...

You're new here and really trying to fit in right?

[skimo]

I guess we can call this thread "fail"

[pony_trekker]

I always look here:

http://www.iihs.org/research/hldi/co...=3&sort=medPay

Insurance losses. I sort by medical claims to see which cars have the least serious claims for medical injuries, etc. Not a perfect test but helpful/

[crashoverride]

Well you can count me in as a believer. Drunk driver pulled out in front of me from side road never saw him I was going 45-50 took out front end of car two weeks after I bought it. Some whiplash and airbag burn on wrist. Any lesser of a car and story would be different.

[linlaoboo]

In my opinion you are an idiot because Volvo is owned by Chinese. Get your fact straight.

Originally Posted by hmmcolor

In my opinion, as long as it's not Chinese or Indian it's safe enough. Sure Volvo can design a car to be great in a pre-planned test situation. If you know what's on the test it's easy to study. In the real world I think it's a bit more up to luck.

[Psukhe]

^^^

Volvo was JUST bought by Geely -- they have not designed nor built one yet. From my understanding they will leave the design/engineering to the Swedes.

[carve]

For the best safety information available, go to informedforlife.org.

They take crash test data from the IIHS and NHSTA, weight the performance based on what types of accidents are most dangerous, and adjust the score for vehicle weight. An "average" car is one that receives a score of 100 and weighs 3300 pounds, which was the median back in 2005.

The Audi A4 is the second best car out there by this method, with a score of 42. The 3 is still in the top 17%, with a score of 64 for the 4-door. It was released a few years before the current A4 though. When it was released in 06, the 3 was in the top 6% of all cars. Safety is improving fast. Informedforlife recommends you select cars that score at least 65.

The top scoring volvo is the XC90, iwth a score of 51. That is solid as hell for impacts, since it's rollover rating isn't so hot, being a top-heavy SUV. The S80 gets 55, and S40 a 63- no better than the 3, really.

The worst score from 2003 to 2011 is the 2003 Dodge Dakota, at 195.

What you have to be really careful of when reading these though is, in the case of missing data, they calculate the score by filling in the blanks for the average of cars in that catagory. So, sometimes you'll see dramatically different scores for the sedan and wagon version of a car because only the sedan was crash tested. In reality, the wagon should have a slightly higher rollover risk, and maybe slightly worse rear impact score (which doesn't matter- only 1% of fatalities are from being rear-ended), but otherwise be identical. Use your judgement.

[hipnotic]

nice find

[HVYWGHT]

Any German car is safe. BMW, Audi, Mercedes, VW (from the Golf up in size). Volvo's and SAABs also tend to be very safe cars.

Nowadays, with safety such a big deal, most new cars out from any large volume developed nation manufacturer are safe.

Are BMWs very safe? Yes, always have been. It's the bonus to the handling, the powertrain and the design. A true complete package. And part of the reason why I chose a BMW.