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      08-07-2010, 09:38 PM   #1
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Carved up some twisty roads in the Bay Area

TurboHank and I carved up some nice twisty backroads today from the East Bay to the South Bay. TurboHank has an awesome looking M Sport package! No traffic, it was like having our own twisty roads to play on. We pushed these fun cars pretty hard today that mine asked for a quart of oil on the dash/iDrive warning. Stopped at the service department to have them add a quart on the way back home.
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Lovely photos flpnout; a nice comparison between the standard and Msport kit!
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      08-07-2010, 10:05 PM   #3
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You guys should have seen flpnout driving, what a beast! I was literally more than a mile behind eating dust!!! 200 miles round trip, one helluva outing.
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It's double the fun driving with other Z4 enthusiasts! Next time we need to carve up the ocean side scenery.
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This is roughly the route I took. We started from Clayton and ended up in San Jose. Route 130 was ridiculous took us up to Mt. Hamilton.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...,0.111494&z=14
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I was looking at your map and found the Calavaras Rd to the the reservoir is off of Milpitas. We should take that next time, also pretty fun Rd. Although it tends to have a few bicyclists to watch out for and the roads also become narrow shares like Morgan Territory Rd. There is also great twisty roads in the Napa Valley wine country area that I've been through going towards lake Shasta.
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Those are some great shots, and the cars both looked spankin'. Seriously jealous.

I had never seen the difference between the M-Sport front and back before, or the Space Grey w/Red in outside light. You just saved me a couple of posts, thanks.
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Nice playground and lovely shots. About the oil addition, did you cruise in redline a lot, would you say it is normal or does it have anything to do with your dinan remap? Do you have oil cooler? Thanks
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Nice playground and lovely shots. About the oil addition, did you cruise in redline a lot, would you say it is normal or does it have anything to do with your dinan remap? Do you have oil cooler? Thanks
We started driving from 11am until about 3:15pm to grab some grub. Car had about a 45 minute break, then while I was headed home almost 5:00pm, the little triangle sign came on asking to add the 1 quart oil. I happen to be near a BMW dealership that had a service department open until 6pm. I just pulled up the service bay and showed them the warning. My SA said that was normal since I was driving mostly on 2nd & 3rd gear in the mountain roads going up and down most of the day, also in high revs in 80 to 87 degrees temperature. I drifted around a few corners when permissible. I notice a lot of understeer with this car vs my previous M cars. sometimes it just doesn't want to get back over when you are turning the steering wheel to do so. That's when I get a bit nervous when you could easily fall off the cliff or slam against the mountain. But it was quite an adrenaline rush for me as I told TurboHank. It was about 80 to 87 degrees, and even with Dinan my temperature gauge stayed between a little below half way to exactly half way. Pretty impressive. That's without a FMIC. I put 210 miles in one day. I do have the factory oil coolers.

My previous E46 M3 would ask for more oil constantly after extended periods of high revs driving all day. Both E46 M4 and E89 Z4 have 6-speed manual (not sure if that makes a difference).

Don't get me wrong, even with the understeer and a bit tail happy, this car is still extremely satisfying as it is a handful to drive, IMHO.
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Those are some great shots, and the cars both looked spankin'. Seriously jealous.

I had never seen the difference between the M-Sport front and back before, or the Space Grey w/Red in outside light. You just saved me a couple of posts, thanks.
Which part of Brentwood are you from? Southern Cal or Northern Cal?
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I notice a lot of understeer with this car vs my previous M cars. sometimes it just doesn't want to get back over when you are turning the steering wheel to do so. That's when I get a bit nervous when you could easily fall off the cliff or slam against the mountain. But it was quite an adrenaline rush for me as I told TurboHank.
Get the H&R antiroll bars and you will have a go-cart, trust me.
Thanks for your reply.
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I originally was intimidated and disappointed with the Z4 handling at the limit. Time to get used to it is all it took. To solve the understeer, just enter the corner a hair slower and get on the throttle to balance it. Even in the wet it works and I had no issues driving the car hard. OR, if you ABSOLUTELY know what you are doing, lift thottle oversteer might help. Sport mode seemed best as Sport+ allows a more unsettled feeling. At the BMW PC, they recommended Sport mode for any on road driving (mostly due to the snap oversteer possible in Sport+ or DSC off). I even used it (just Sport mode) on their autocross and felt at one with the handling without feeling like DSC was handicapping me. It rarely if ever even flashed during those autocross laps so I know I was driving the car well but still fast.
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This is roughly the route I took. We started from Clayton and ended up in San Jose. Route 130 was ridiculous took us up to Mt. Hamilton.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...,0.111494&z=14
This road was awesome, turn after turn after turn.....seems endless:
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Seemed like a lot of fun. Wow, almost 5 hr drive. That space grey on red looks great. Of course, I also like the white on red.

flpnout, how come your top wasn't down in those shots?
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Seemed like a lot of fun. Wow, almost 5 hr drive. That space grey on red looks great. Of course, I also like the white on red.

flpnout, how come your top wasn't down in those shots?
LOL, I couldn't stand the heat. And I wanted to check out the handling with top up. Next time it will be down, just to see if there is a significant difference in handling. Also I just love the coupe look
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Yea it was hot, i look like a panda now.
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^Haha, I hear ya. I'm only in Toronto and after a few days top off I already have a little bit of a tan. Well, maybe just my left arm lol.
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Which part of Brentwood are you from? Southern Cal or Northern Cal?
Southern. I fly back and forth from the Island to La La Land every couple of weeks. Also building a home in Placencia, Belize but the car will stay (when I get it) in L.A.

I never thought that someone could use the words "tan" and "Toronto" in the same sentence............
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I never thought that someone could use the words "tan" and "Toronto" in the same sentence............
Rub it in some more, won't ya?
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Rub it in some more, won't ya?
relax Tranquility, he's just jiving you, an island off the coast of Washington = rain, travel back to LA = smog ......if you want real sun you have to get to the other side of the Rockies....but I still don't see how you got a tan in TO ???



PS: I'll be going through the San Fran area to LA in a few weeks and might look for this road. It looks like a blast.
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relax Tranquility, he's just jiving you, an island off the coast of Washington = rain, travel back to LA = smog ......if you want real sun you have to get to the other side of the Rockies....but I still don't see how you got a tan in TO ???



PS: I'll be going through the San Fran area to LA in a few weeks and might look for this road. It looks like a blast.
Well, just a bit of a tan on my left arm. LOL.

You guys don't think we live in igloos over here, do you?
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Beautiful photos and even more stunning cars!
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