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      07-19-2010, 11:28 PM   #1
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Vishnu Procede, Macbook, and Windows 7

When I bought the car it had the procede installed. I'm going to run the software on a Macbook using Boot Camp. My question is should I install the 64 bit or 32 bit version of Windows 7? I can't find too much on the forums or any capability discussions. Anyone have any experience as to which one will work? Thanks.
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      07-19-2010, 11:59 PM   #2
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no point in running 64bit windows on a VM, where you're not likely to assign more than 2gigs of ram to it anyways. So that said, run 32bit windows 7, much more compatible with drivers.
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      07-20-2010, 12:17 AM   #3
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Yes I've got 4 gigs of RAM and my plan was to install the 64 bit Windows 7. My concern is the Vishnu software - any problems running 64 bit and Vishnu software?
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You'll have no wories with running the Vishnu software with the 64 bit version of Windows 7. It's perfectly compatible.

If you have any increased difficulty with 32 bit vs 64 bit it will be related to installing the drivers for the USB to COM adapter that you'll need to connect to the PROcede to update maps, firmware and data log.

I had problems connecting with the Prolific cable. The Radio Shack cable disconnected every 30 seconds on average.

You may want to check out this thread as it discusses some of the USB power management issues in Windows 7 that's been helpful for some. Also some have had success running XP mode in Windows 7. XP Mode is a virtual machine that can be run in Windows 7 that allows easy integration with the host OS in a way that is mostly seamless.


Here's the thread...
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393711

Here's a link to the USB cable that worked for me and import36. I use Windows 7 64 bit and import36 uses Vista.

http://www.usconverters.com/index.ph...roducts_id=290

I've had zero issues connecting and no problems with disconnects since going to this cable.

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He mentioned bootcamp, which isn't a VM
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If the only reason you're installing boot camp is to use the procede, I'd strongly recommend you install XP instead....it is MUCH better at keeping the serial connection stable for some reason.
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      07-20-2010, 11:15 AM   #7
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I have never had issues with stability of comm ports. For reference, this doesn't occur with everyone.

OP go with Win7, it's a great OS.
+1, mine works fine in Win7. I still plugin the laptop when updating firmware just to be safe, but that's it.
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      07-20-2010, 11:21 AM   #8
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bootcamp is compatible with 32-bit vm's only... </thread>
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Thanks for the solution. I think this will resolve my Window 7/64 connection issue.



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You'll have no wories with running the Vishnu software with the 64 bit version of Windows 7. It's perfectly compatible.

If you have any increased difficulty with 32 bit vs 64 bit it will be related to installing the drivers for the USB to COM adapter that you'll need to connect to the PROcede to update maps, firmware and data log.

I had problems connecting with the Prolific cable. The Radio Shack cable disconnected every 30 seconds on average.

You may want to check out this thread as it discusses some of the USB power management issues in Windows 7 that's been helpful for some. Also some have had success running XP mode in Windows 7. XP Mode is a virtual machine that can be run in Windows 7 that allows easy integration with the host OS in a way that is mostly seamless.


Here's the thread...
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393711

Here's a link to the USB cable that worked for me and import36. I use Windows 7 64 bit and import36 uses Vista.

http://www.usconverters.com/index.ph...roducts_id=290

I've had zero issues connecting and no problems with disconnects since going to this cable.
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      07-20-2010, 02:20 PM   #10
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bootcamp is compatible with 32-bit vm's only... </thread>
I think this is a bit of misinformation, are you saying that my 64bit win 7 installation is not compatible with running Parallels? Would you like me to provide you with a screen shot of WIN7 64bit working in bootcamp and Parallels???

Maybe you are saying Parallels or Fusion only come in 32bit? Either way I am running exactly what you are saying isn't compatible.
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I think this is a bit of misinformation, are you saying that my 64bit win 7 installation is not compatible with running Parallels? Would you like me to provide you with a screen shot of WIN7 64bit working in bootcamp and Parallels???

Maybe you are saying Parallels or Fusion only come in 32bit? Either way I am running exactly what you are saying isn't compatible.
Previous to Snow Leopard, he was right. Apple updated the bootcamp drivers to allow for Windows 7 x64 to boot under bootcamp. It works fine now though.
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Previous to Snow Leopard, he was right. Apple updated the bootcamp drivers to allow for Windows 7 x64 to boot under bootcamp. It works fine now though.
That's fair, but he inferred that ALL. So I just wanted to clear up the incorrect information for the OP as well as anyone else that browses this thread.
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I had problems connecting with the Prolific cable. The Radio Shack cable disconnected every 30 seconds on average.
Same problem with the radio shack cable and windows 7, 32 bit. I tried everything you could do in the software. Even got the new Radio Shack/gigaware cable that came with Vista drives on a CD, yanked my 3 year old cable back through the firewall and put in the new one.

I ran the procede exe in compatability mode for XP (tired all SP's) and the random disconnects would still happen. When I would have the compatability checked of the procede exe it would aways say that it was not compatible with windows 7.

I got so frustrated with the usb to serial disconnects happening at random times. The time needed to update the firmware could be 1-2 hours of sitting in the car to get through the whole thing without a disconnect. My old XP laptop had power issues that could not be resolved, so I finally went out and bought a $250 netbook with XP SP3 on it for all my car applications (Escort, Laser Interceptor, Procede, Bavarian Technique).

None of my other car apps that went through USB had and issue, even when using the same USB to serial cable (I have multiple of the same exact one), so it is something in the procede software, and maybe it only happens on certain brand computers?

I also downloaded and installed all of the available Windows 7 compatibility updates.
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      08-11-2010, 12:13 PM   #14
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When I bought the car it had the procede installed. I'm going to run the software on a Macbook using Boot Camp. My question is should I install the 64 bit or 32 bit version of Windows 7? I can't find too much on the forums or any capability discussions. Anyone have any experience as to which one will work? Thanks.
I run windows vista on my MacBook using vmware fusion and it performs flawlessly with the procede sweet: )
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lol @ boot camp.. man thats soooo 1999. Parallels Desktop with a XP VM would be ur best bet. Just make sure you install the drivers for your USB to Serial adapter. BTW use the 32bit Version
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lol @ boot camp.. man thats soooo 1999. Parallels Desktop with a XP VM would be ur best bet. Just make sure you install the drivers for your USB to Serial adapter. BTW use the 32bit Version
First, bootcamp was release in 2006 when the intel macs came about... Second, if you want to utilize the hardware to it's max, bootcamp is the ticket. Third, using 32bit version is only going to utilize just under 3 gigs of ram. If you have more, you can't take advantage. So hence the use of bootcamp. I can tell you from my current setup that bootcamp runs far superior to a VM even with my dual core 8gig MBP.
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First, bootcamp was release in 2006 when the intel macs came about... Second, if you want to utilize the hardware to it's max, bootcamp is the ticket. Third, using 32bit version is only going to utilize just under 3 gigs of ram. If you have more, you can't take advantage. So hence the use of bootcamp. I can tell you from my current setup that bootcamp runs far superior to a VM even with my dual core 8gig MBP.
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So Procede reader won't work on a MacBook Pro?

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I have a Macbook Pro too, and I run 32 bit windows because I use it only for Proceed reader, no point using the 64 bit version; Remember the memory you are allocating to Windows is not available to your Mac. No free lunch. But if you are like me and I do everything else in the Mac OS 10, you are better off using the 32bit version.
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It works just fine for me!!!
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Works fine for me, I boot up into OS X and run a vm client from oracle called virtual box. Spin up a 1 GB win xp session and I'm all good.
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