E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Downpipes Installed: Rasp noise?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-10-2010, 10:51 PM   #1
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

Downpipes Installed: Rasp noise?

hey guys, today a buddy and i installed my VK downpipes and BMS 02 fix (v3) everything went pretty smoothly (thanks to the dyi on here) and im loving the new sound from the exhaust/turbos and the added power as well. also i raised the map on my jb3 from 5 to 7 finally and

only problem is im sometimes hearing a rasp noise coming from under the passenger side

i havent had a chance to get back under the car but plan on tomorrow to check things out. just wanted to see if anyone had this issue and what it could be coming from.
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2010, 11:40 PM   #2
Jonny550
Brigadier General
Jonny550's Avatar
241
Rep
4,936
Posts

Drives: 2012 550i Xdrive
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Jersey Shore

iTrader: (14)

A rasp from the exhaust note when you hit like 4k rpms if so thats what comes with CL downpipes. Could be the downpipes rattling also so take that in mind.They might be touching something i.e each other. When does it rasp when cruising or when WOT?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

.
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2010, 11:58 PM   #3
SfValley335i
Colonel
Afghanistan
164
Rep
2,409
Posts

Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: City of Angels

iTrader: (8)

I bet the right DP is touching the heat shield next to the passenger side wheel...
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 12:03 AM   #4
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

It rasps at different moments. I mainly hear it when I let off the gas though. I'm also thnking it's the heat shield touching something since we had to bend it a bit to fit our hands through.

Last edited by Boosted_TIAG; 07-11-2010 at 03:30 PM..
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 02:27 PM   #5
AlpineG05
hi
AlpineG05's Avatar
129
Rep
1,140
Posts

Drives: Alpine White G05
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Bakersfield, Cali

iTrader: (1)

Heat shield is touching the downpipe, I'm pretty sure.
__________________
2022 M Sport G05
Jb4, CTS catless dp, M performance exhaust, bms intake, IND goodies, Maxton kit
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 03:34 PM   #6
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

not the heat shield guys, ive been under the car all morning trying to figure out where its coming from. sounds like its coming from the rear where the dp's connect to the exhaust. i bought new gaskets and bolts from ar design so i doubt it has anything to do with the gaskets. i looked everywhere and couldnt see anything touching. i made a few quick videos to let you guys hear what it sounds like...hopefully someone can chime in today.

so annoying...

[u2b]<object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GPKQYQ4LT9c&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GPKQYQ4LT9c&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></embed></object>[/u2b]

[u2b]<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2igOGbizYo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Z2igOGbizYo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>[/u2b]

Last edited by Boosted_TIAG; 07-11-2010 at 03:51 PM..
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 04:20 PM   #7
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon335iFL View Post
A rasp from the exhaust note when you hit like 4k rpms if so thats what comes with CL downpipes.
so youre saying its normal for it to rasp? it does it when i first start the car and gradually goes away once the engine warms up, at idle it doesnt do it. once i rev it a bit it will do it again. also does it when i let of the gas after accelerating.
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 04:24 PM   #8
mkiv
2JZ
Canada
63
Rep
819
Posts

Drives: 16 G500
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: 温哥华Vancouver

iTrader: (6)

sounds like WG rattle to me. i would say check ur wastegate and turbos if u can.
__________________
E92 335i Fully Loaded | Procede Rev2 | ETS FMIC | AR Catless DP | AFE DCI | AA BOV | KW V2 | iForged Essen | VRS CF Trunk | M-Tech Sideskirts | M-Tech Rear | Ericsson Front GONE!
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 04:26 PM   #9
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

^ interesting, problem is this sound wasnt there before the dp install.
how do i check the wastegate?
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 05:10 PM   #10
caliguy562
Lieutenant
8
Rep
476
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: garaged somewhere in soCal

iTrader: (3)

completely normal. When I first got mine installed I was concerned too. But do a search and you will see that ALL catless downpipes have some rasp to them. The rasp can be corrected by installing a resonator. I too have the rasp and it's really noticable after a cold start. It subsides once the car warms up and is then only heard under WOT. MS downpipes here.
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 06:09 PM   #11
Jeff@TopGearSolutions
Jeff@TopGearSolutions's Avatar
United_States
3441
Rep
79,211
Posts

Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com

iTrader: (37)

This might actually be normal, Dp's usually add some RASP. Especially when catless.

I know a couple buddies of mine even at idle you hear a raspy noise.

Could still be wastegates though the more I think about it.

Last edited by Jeff@TopGearSolutions; 07-11-2010 at 10:57 PM..
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 07:59 PM   #12
cn555ic
cn555ic's Avatar
United_States
441
Rep
18,331
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: US

iTrader: (6)

The rasp is coming from the exhaust itself.....I had the same problem until I installed resonators to the exhaust...Check out this thread...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336138
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 08:26 PM   #13
themyst
Major General
themyst's Avatar
South Korea
177
Rep
6,631
Posts

Drives: '16 MK7 GTI
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NYC

iTrader: (8)

I have the VK dps and they don't really add rasp, they just make whatever exhaust you have louder. The good news is downpipes on a stock exhaust does not drone.
__________________
E90 LCI N54 6AT
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 09:11 PM   #14
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by cn555ic View Post
The rasp is coming from the exhaust itself.....I had the same problem until I installed resonators to the exhaust...Check out this thread...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336138
any videos of the rasp you were getting? did it sound like mine in the videos i posted? i wish i knew for a fact the resonators youre suggesting would eliminate my problem.

just did some more driving and it seems like they rasp when accelerating and when i first start the car. when coasting they are silent the rasp and when engine warms up and idles the noise goes away as well.

its not coming from the tips of the exhaust but right at the point where the dp's meet the exhaust, where i put in new gaskets. exhaust leak doesnt sound like this does it?
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 09:13 PM   #15
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by caliguy562 View Post
completely normal. When I first got mine installed I was concerned too. But do a search and you will see that ALL catless downpipes have some rasp to them. The rasp can be corrected by installing a resonator. I too have the rasp and it's really noticable after a cold start. It subsides once the car warms up and is then only heard under WOT. MS downpipes here.
exactly my problem, i wish i knew this before ordering these dp's. no offense to anyone but im not liking all the rasp noise. it takes away from the mean rumble and makes it sound ricey. so you think adding the resonators that cn555ic mentioned will get rid of the rasp also huh?

also do you have a video of yours, id like to compare your sound to mine. is it similar?
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 09:23 PM   #16
cn555ic
cn555ic's Avatar
United_States
441
Rep
18,331
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: US

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boosted_TIAG View Post
exactly my problem, i wish i knew this before ordering these dp's. no offense to anyone but im not liking all the rasp noise. it takes away from the mean rumble and makes it sound ricey. so you think adding the resonators that cn555ic mentioned will get rid of the rasp also huh?

also do you have a video of yours, id like to compare your sound to mine. is it similar?
do you have the stock exhaust?? If so there shouldn't be any rasp...I had rasp because I am totally catless..
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 09:28 PM   #17
Boosted_TIAG
Second Lieutenant
12
Rep
285
Posts

Drives: CLS55 AMG
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: St. Louis

iTrader: (5)

^ yes
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 10:02 PM   #18
MFKN3
Colonel
MFKN3's Avatar
Australia
127
Rep
2,224
Posts

Drives: supercharged 4.4L stroker E92
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Australia

iTrader: (2)

That's your wastegates rattling.

Pretty common problem in the US from what I read on here. Going catless accentuates the sounds which is why you're only noticing it now, as yours aren't too bad.

Sometimes a procede will fix it, but others have had their turbos swapped on warranty and they still get this rattle.
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 10:05 PM   #19
cn555ic
cn555ic's Avatar
United_States
441
Rep
18,331
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: US

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boosted_TIAG View Post
any videos of the rasp you were getting? did it sound like mine in the videos i posted? i wish i knew for a fact the resonators youre suggesting would eliminate my problem.

just did some more driving and it seems like they rasp when accelerating and when i first start the car. when coasting they are silent the rasp and when engine warms up and idles the noise goes away as well.

its not coming from the tips of the exhaust but right at the point where the dp's meet the exhaust, where i put in new gaskets. exhaust leak doesnt sound like this does it?
Looking at the video again and hearing it, I think its the dreaded wastegate rattle...Its more pronounced once catless dps are installed....Its has happen to many people...Some more evident than others...

Last edited by cn555ic; 07-11-2010 at 10:16 PM..
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 10:07 PM   #20
mkiv
2JZ
Canada
63
Rep
819
Posts

Drives: 16 G500
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: 温哥华Vancouver

iTrader: (6)

the sound in the video is definitely not NORMAL
__________________
E92 335i Fully Loaded | Procede Rev2 | ETS FMIC | AR Catless DP | AFE DCI | AA BOV | KW V2 | iForged Essen | VRS CF Trunk | M-Tech Sideskirts | M-Tech Rear | Ericsson Front GONE!
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 10:18 PM   #21
SloppyJoe
Private
8
Rep
76
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (1)

sounds like the WG rattle to me too. I have the same thing, except I'm on stock exhaust and downpipe.
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2010, 10:49 PM   #22
vasillalov
Mad Linux Guru On The Loose
vasillalov's Avatar
1121
Rep
5,396
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i Sedan, 2023 M3
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (5)

Garage List
2023 BMW M3  [0.00]
2008 335i E90  [8.00]
I get none of that and I have fully catless exhaust....
__________________
6MT | COBB | AR | AE | Forge DV | HPF | P3 Gauge | Hybrid Intake | O.S.Giken TCD | All M3 bits | TCKLine | StopTech | UUC | ER | SPEC
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST