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      02-09-2010, 10:58 AM   #1
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Alufelgen (CS7 & SF-71) & VMR (VB3) - Hyper black color difference?

Can anyone with experience with these rims shed some light on my current situation? I'm trying to compare the color and contrast difference between Alufelgen's CS7's, SF-71's and VMR's VB3's Hyper Black rims.

Originally i was considering picking up the VB3's because they seem to look darker in Hyper Black compared to SF-71s and CS7's and after waiting on some pictures released by SF-71 customers, it seems the Hyper blacks arent as dark as i would had hoped.

Are Alufelgen's CS7's hyper blacks color matched the same as SF-71s?

Which ones out of those 3 would you say has a darker Hyper Black tone?

Below are some pictures i found on this forums:


ieicholtz - SF-71 Hyper Blacks


chumley - SF-71 Hyper Blacks


hl0m4n - CS7 Hyper Blacks


VMR - VB3's


kick quality out the window, both companies make stellar wheels but strictly referring to their complexion.

thanks all!

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      02-09-2010, 12:34 PM   #2
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It looks like the Alufelgen wheels are a bit more of a match to OEM BMW shadowchrome whereas the VMRs are a bit more "gunmetal" in appearance if that makes any sense.
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      02-09-2010, 12:45 PM   #3
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i think i know what you mean, the Alufelgens have more of a bling to them, which is fine by me, but as you mentioned the VB3's have a darker, tone. i've never seen them up close personally so i was hoping people who have these could help me out.
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The VMR VB3 CSL in Hyperblack is slightly darker and I've had nothing but positive remarks in regards to the finish of the wheel.

Your decision on which CSL wheel to purchase is a question that has been asked time and time again over the years. In terms of quality you want to make sure that the CSL style wheels are manufactured to meet the highest performance, quality, and safety standards in the industry. Make sure that the wheels pass JWL and VIA standards to ensure the highest level of safety and quality. VMR's lineup have wheels have been extremely successful over the years and the community can attest to the quality of their products

Here's a picture with the difference in concavity vs the different wheel sizes VMR offers!

[IMG]http://www.**********s.com/images/Products/VelocityMotoring/957f317d.jpg[/IMG]
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The only problem about Hyperblack is getting them repaired if you scrape them on a pothole, otherwise they are awesome.
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I'm really interested in seeing a set of hyperblack wheels in person. I've been trying to decide whether hyperblack, gunmetal or a powdercoat color such as jet anthracite would look best on my TiAg e90. If you happen to pick up a set, I would really like to meet up with you somewhere around Houston. Maybe we could get a meet together, haha.
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Hyper black between two mfr's will be somewhat difficult to see in pictures, but I'd say that ours is on the darker side. We try our best to represent the wheel color to as close to real life as possible... But there are always going to be factors affecting the way you see it... time of day, lighting, background, camera, etc....

But its not as difficult to see a difference in hyper black than lets say, between a super silver and hyper silver which is basically the same until you look closely
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I think hyperblack, by essence, will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and will not be exactly the same. Everything affects the look of it. Our Hyperblack ranges from a light to a dark gunmetal depending on the type of lighting, angle, time of day, reflections on the wheel, etc.

Hyperblack is a finish that is very hard to get just right in photography. It is a very beautiful finish and unique in itself.
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Are your SF71 and CS7 Hyper blacks coated with the same color?

same meaning, if we look at the wheels side by side, in the same light, angle etc.. do they match in color? or is one slightly darker than the over, and if so which one?

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Are your SF71 and CS7 Hyper blacks coated with the same color?

same meaning, if we look at the wheels side by side, in the same light, angle etc.. do they match in color? or is one slightly darker than the over, and if so which one?

Thanks
Yes. They are both the same finish. They`ll create different shades due to the different design.
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This is the most dominant shade of our Hyperblack:

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I've been able to see the wheels, both SF-71 and CS7 in their different finishes. The Hyperblack is a very complex color. Like Alufelgen said earlier, the lighting alone will affect the shade of Hyperblack that will be seen in the picture. Luckily, if you are looking for something more monotone they also offer Gunmetal.

In the end, regarding your dilemma on which wheels to go with you have to weight them out to see which one is the one you are looking for.

As far as looks are concerned, the SF-71's offer a very unique twist to the feel of the Mesh style wheel. Their spoke fillets are a brilliant add to an already great design. So if you are into that design, then your hands are pretty tied.

Now if you are talking about a CSL style wheel, there is where you have to see which of the two suits you better. As far as looks are concerned, they are both extremely close to the original CSLs. I think the CS7's are a LITTLE bit more concave, but you can't go wrong with either one, SICK and SICK.

As far as quality, VMR has long been standing as a company and that speaks a lot. Yes, yes, people have complained here and there but that happens to EVERY company, see Steve Jobs. So with the VMR's you have an established team behind the product. Alufelgen is relatively new so they don't have a track record that goes back years, but I've heard no complaints thus far.

On the other hand as far as structural quality, ALUFELGEN uses low pressure diecasting whereas VMR uses gravity casting. Low pressure diecasting is a better manufacturing method, it delivers a better quality wheel, this is a big advantage. Not to say that gravity casting sucks, it's still good. So structurally ALUFELGEN wheels are better. Again, not to say that the VMR's are BAD, they are good, just a different manufacturing process.

And last, but not least, price. VMR's are more affordable then ALUFELGEN's. Which is an advantage.

So like I said, in the end it's what you want. The VB3's and the CS7s are different wheels that provide the same aesthetic result. Their different because they are built different.

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      02-11-2010, 07:19 PM   #14
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hey AluFelgen, are there any side by side shots of the CS7 and the SF-71...I can't tell the difference O_o ... I'm also deciding what finish would go good with titanium silver metallic e92... hyperblack really looks good though ....I want something clean and not look too ricey...read nothing but good things about your wheels...
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One of the huge differences between the CS7 & SF-71 is that the CS7 has 8 spokes while the SF-71 has 7.
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Ive had all of alufelgens wheels. I know Im somewhat of a wheel whore but there is a reason I keep buying them. The quality and strength even the finish are as good as it gets in regards to a cast wheel. My cs7's endured some serious potholes that I thought for sure damaged the wheel. Never had an issue even after checking for damage thoroughly. The finish literally is just as good as oem. Trust me...these are high quality wheels. Seeing the hyperblack makes me hope alufelgen sent these by accident instead of the silver ones Im getting tomorrow.
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don't worry the silver ones look sick on an AW
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don't worry the silver ones look sick on an AW
Thats the reason I usually go with silver on alpine white. It just really pops out.
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hey AluFelgen, are there any side by side shots of the CS7 and the SF-71...I can't tell the difference O_o ... I'm also deciding what finish would go good with titanium silver metallic e92... hyperblack really looks good though ....I want something clean and not look too ricey...read nothing but good things about your wheels...
If you want clean, you can't go wrong with silver. Silver is a color that maintains the elegance the car was built upon, and brings out every detail in the design of the wheel.

There are key differences to the wheels. For example, the spokes on the SF71 have a stylized fillet to them. This gorgeous detail allows for shadow and light play that envelopes itself around the wheel exquisitely. Furthermore, the spokes end differently then the CS7, the fillet around the edge of the wheel creates the illusion of a larger wheel.

The SF-71 are one of the best geometrically designed, if not the best, mesh style wheels by an aftermarket company.

Their CS7's are the closest thing to the CSLs you will find. Not just in looks, but in structural quality you will find in the market.

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Thats the reason I usually go with silver on alpine white. It just really pops out.
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hey AluFelgen, are there any side by side shots of the CS7 and the SF-71...I can't tell the difference O_o ... I'm also deciding what finish would go good with titanium silver metallic e92... hyperblack really looks good though ....I want something clean and not look too ricey...read nothing but good things about your wheels...
I would recommend Metallic Silver for your vehicle. It is a very classy finish and matches very well with Titanium Silver.

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Ive had all of alufelgens wheels. I know Im somewhat of a wheel whore but there is a reason I keep buying them. The quality and strength even the finish are as good as it gets in regards to a cast wheel. My cs7's endured some serious potholes that I thought for sure damaged the wheel. Never had an issue even after checking for damage thoroughly. The finish literally is just as good as oem. Trust me...these are high quality wheels. Seeing the hyperblack makes me hope alufelgen sent these by accident instead of the silver ones Im getting tomorrow.
Looking forward to seeing some pics on your car
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Ive had all of alufelgens wheels. I know Im somewhat of a wheel whore but there is a reason I keep buying them. The quality and strength even the finish are as good as it gets in regards to a cast wheel. My cs7's endured some serious potholes that I thought for sure damaged the wheel. Never had an issue even after checking for damage thoroughly. The finish literally is just as good as oem. Trust me...these are high quality wheels. Seeing the hyperblack makes me hope alufelgen sent these by accident instead of the silver ones Im getting tomorrow.
Thank you Fotios. You might have already received 4 cool boxes if I`m not mistaken
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