[OpenFlash]

1-22 maps tested on a 6AT Stg 3 car running Vishnu PnP Methanol System

Things to notice:

Ignition correction curves
The meth map (Stg 4+ with Ign Correction at 0%) runs considerably more timing than the pump gas map. This extra timing is PROcede-induced and not caused by knock feedback as it would be in a reflash or in a piggyback that does not actively control ignition timing.

Boost pressures
Peak boost on the pump gas map is limited to 15psi. Peak boost on the methanol map is set to 16.8psi. Eventually, these peak values will be adjustable though the User Adjustable menu. It makes no sense for a tune NOT to adjust boost when toggling between methanol and non-methanol maps. Running the same boost pressure is a tuning compromise, plain and simple.

Target Boost vs. Actual Boost (aka "Pressure in front of Throttle Valve in BavTech speak) This is Debug Word 4 and Debug Word 5 (both plotted in the 5th graph)
Look how closely they match each other. The closer they are too each other, the more responsive the engine will be. The error (difference between Actual and Target) is within a small fraction of a PSI at all times (post spool-up). And you will see this kind of error regardless of what your modifications/conditions are. V4 is that adaptable. You will not find any other reflash or non-CANbus integrated piggyback to come close to this.

Stg 3+ on 91oct (methanol injection disabled) and Ignition Correction set at 100%:


Stg 4+ on 91oct plus methanol (enabled) and Ignition Correction set to 0%:


Cheers,
shiv

[Sniz]

looks great and i'm sure that car is a rocket!

[scottp999]

You have been busy today. Nice work.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by scottp999

You have been busy today. Nice work.

Thanks.. you'll be happy to know that we are working on the progressive mapping for methanol right now. So instead of switching between two distinct maps when the methanol flow trigger goes ON/OFF, the PROcede is going to read actual methanol flow (in ml/min) and gradually "blend" one map into the other as a function of flow. So you wont see any "step" change in boost, timing or fuel. Everything will be invisible, failure-proof and as smooth as one could want.

Cheers,
shiv

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Thanks.. you'll be happy to know that we are working on the progressive mapping for methanol right now. So instead of switching between two distinct maps when the methanol flow trigger goes ON/OFF, the PROcede is going to read actual methanol flow (in ml/min) and gradually "blend" one map into the other as a function of flow. So you wont see any "step" change in boost, timing or fuel. Everything will be invisible, failure-proof and as smooth as one could want.

Cheers,
shiv

Great news SHiv! It looks like you had a bad case of cabin fever with all the rain you guys had!! First nice day and your like a mad tuner!!!

I am running stage 3 so if I use 3+ for meth map, all I would need to do is turn ign cor to 0%? Correct

[maui86]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Thanks.. you'll be happy to know that we are working on the progressive mapping for methanol right now. So instead of switching between two distinct maps when the methanol flow trigger goes ON/OFF, the PROcede is going to read actual methanol flow (in ml/min) and gradually "blend" one map into the other as a function of flow. So you wont see any "step" change in boost, timing or fuel. Everything will be invisible, failure-proof and as smooth as one could want.

Cheers,
shiv

this is what i'm waiting for to install your meth kit i have sitting in my room :-)

[scottp999]

Originally Posted by maui86

this is what i'm waiting for to install your meth kit i have sitting in my room :-)

Same here. Going to be a fun day when this comes to pass.

[Sparky66]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Thanks.. you'll be happy to know that we are working on the progressive mapping for methanol right now. So instead of switching between two distinct maps when the methanol flow trigger goes ON/OFF, the PROcede is going to read actual methanol flow (in ml/min) and gradually "blend" one map into the other as a function of flow. So you wont see any "step" change in boost, timing or fuel. Everything will be invisible, failure-proof and as smooth as one could want.

Cheers,
shiv

Smooth tuning as always............Shiv Style

[GreenPlease]

Wow. Amazing how much meth allows you to tighten the timing up. Very promising. Nice work.

Edit: btw, Shiv, are you running straight meth or 50/50? Also, have you taken a look at the thread on the boards re: pre-compressor meth injection? Any thoughts? Thanks.

[deletedelete]

Just to clarify, if I get a basic meth kit and have a procede, do I need a controller to adjust the meth controls? The procede will change the map if the meth stops, negating the need for a secondary gauge to prevent any engine damage?

[scalbert]

Looks like someone was having fun yesterday.

[Sniz]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

Just to clarify, if I get a basic meth kit and have a procede, do I need a controller to adjust the meth controls? The procede will change the map if the meth stops, negating the need for a secondary gauge to prevent any engine damage?

yes I do believe that is correct, his meth kit comes iwth everything you'll need to integrate w/ the procede.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Prowess Symphony

Just to clarify, if I get a basic meth kit and have a procede, do I need a controller to adjust the meth controls? The procede will change the map if the meth stops, negating the need for a secondary gauge to prevent any engine damage?

You definitely don't need a gauge. But you will need the Labonte electronics (pump controller and flow detector) in order to interface with the PROcede.

Shiv

[cn555ic]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You definitely don't need a gauge. But you will need the Labonte electronics (pump controller and flow detector) in order to interface with the PROcede.

Shiv

lol...+1 on the Labonte electronics! I personally witness that the electronics need to be compatible with the tuner software!!

[cocoturkey]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You definitely don't need a gauge. But you will need the Labonte electronics (pump controller and flow detector) in order to interface with the PROcede.

Shiv

with V4, do i have to set future use 1 to "0" or "1" in order to activate my meth kit? or it does not matter... i just have to push the ON button on the remoate keynob and it will automactially start spreading meth when boost is above 6psi?

with V4, how exactly should we setup the values in user adjustable menu so we can switch bewteen pump gas map and meth map on the fly? does V4 switches back to pump gas map automatically when it detects no meth flow?