[rag133]

2000 goddamn miles. I was getting the long cranks, was supposed to take the car in Saturday, but decided not to since the cranking issue stopped for a bit and I needed the car. Tonight I noticed it did the long crank when I went out, got the car to the bottom of the driveway, engine light goes on, car shuts off. Dead. It will start but then dies after a few seconds. Towed to the dealer to check out tomorrow.

2000 goddamn miles. This issue has been KNOWN for years and still BMW does not do a goddamn thing to fix it BEFORE it happens. I am pissed as hell now, this crap should not happen to a new car, and not this issue that BMW sure as hell knows about.

BMW sure as hell is going to get an earful from me, this is my 3rd BMW and will be my LAST.

[Craig@SupremePower]

definately ridiculous....

[klipseracer]

If your white bread had 3 heals would you stop eating white bread?

Jokes aside, yeah. Stupid f'in pump. I hope mine never goes out.

[nukezero]

could you tell us what fuel type and brand you were using???

[WilliamE92]

I'm just waiting for this to happen. I was getting long cranks last week and they stopped since I switched to chevron from shell

[rag133]

Originally Posted by nukezero

could you tell us what fuel type and brand you were using???

I was using Gulf 93 octane.

[F32Fleet]

I understand, but I have to ask why in the world you bought the car to begin with? You must have known about the HPFP problem? I would never buy/lease BMW with the TT I6. It just doesn't play well with U.S. gasoline.

[DJKhan85]

Originally Posted by Socom

I understand, but I have to ask why in the world you bought the car to begin with? You must have known about the HPFP problem? I would never buy/lease BMW with the TT I6. It just doesn't play well with U.S. gasoline.

Looks like you will never be buying a BMW in the future. The majority are going to be turbos.

[rag133]

Originally Posted by Socom

I understand, but I have to ask why in the world you bought the car to begin with? You must have known about the HPFP problem? I would never buy/lease BMW with the TT I6. It just doesn't play well with U.S. gasoline.

I did not know about the HPFP problem. I would have thought looking back now since it has been going on a while someone at BMW would be working on a way to correct the damn thing from the factory. I guess not.

[Joeb427]

Originally Posted by rag133

I did not know about the HPFP problem. I would have thought looking back now since it has been going on a while someone at BMW would be working on a way to correct the damn thing from the factory. I guess not.

When buying any vehicle,especially a $50K one,you should do some research.I screwed up and bought a new '08 335 in June for over $9K off list without the sports package because of the discount and missed the package so much I bought a loaded '09.
There's no fix on the pump and the '10s will have the same problem.
I knew of the problem and bought a 335 twice.I can live with the possible inconvience because I love the performance of the 335..There are usually warning signs and you had one and should have brought the car in then.
Still no excusing BMW for not finding a fix for the problem.

[JoeyBananaz18]

i totally agree with everyone who says that this problem has gotten way out of control, a solution should have been fixeda while ago.
i dont wanna come off as an asshole, but those long cranks should have been a sign that it was on its way out. i got my long crank at around 1700 miles. i wasnt even the 7-8second long crank. it was only 1/2 a second longer. only problem was i was in niagra falls and leaving for queens that morning. talk about a stressful ride home.
anyway i made my appointment to have it checked out while i was leaving the hotel, for the next morning. sure enought the psi was lower than it should have been and they changed it out no questions asked.

if there is some good to come out of this, it's that if an '09 has a HPFP problem, statistically it's going to go at around the 2000 mile mark. i'm told that after that you don't have to think about it...... we shall see.

don't get bummed out. it dosent change the fact that the car is an amazing machine. just remember what to look out for. if you get another long crank in the future, shut it off, call the dealer and keep driving to a minimum until it get swapped out. good luck. you'll be aight.

[doggiedog]

I got lucky. I went into the dealership to get my bubbled tires replaced under warranty. They proactively swapped out my HPFP at 2500 miles telling me there was an issue. I'm at 6600 now and still crossing my fingers.

[mfstout]

Rag, I really feel for ya. I got the 328i, and I kept thinking maybe I should have gone for more power. But I hated the idea of having any doubts about my car's ability to start. I know a lot of 335's are fine, but this is unreal. I would be pissed as hell too. It's not only a pain, it's dangerous. BMW's engineers are some of the best in the world, and for your sake and many others, I hope they figure this out soon. Hang in.

[02themax]

I would be upset if I was in your position as well with only 2000m on the odometer! However you should've taken the car in and gotten a loaner. I'm not saying it's your fault, it's not, but you had an opportunity to avoid this situation. Every car has issues, yes even the almighty BMW but this fuel pump thing is rediculous . Once my lease is up I may be shopping elsewhere if this problem is not fixed. Hope you get you car back soon!

[undecided]

for BMW to do something about it. Bending over and saying "oh, it's ok, give it to me BMW USA" hasn't brought any resolution to the issue.

[thomaslime]

i had long cranks around 2500, had it replaced and now at 4000 im having the same problems again. =/

[citrixscu]

BMW *did* do something about it. They extended the warranty to 100k miles

[Cookiemonster]

Originally Posted by thomaslime

i had long cranks around 2500, had it replaced and now at 4000 im having the same problems again. =/

My car is at the shop now.....if it is the HPFP this will be my 5th pump.

[undecided]

Originally Posted by citrixscu

BMW *did* do something about it. They extended the warranty to 100k miles

LOL.....
The part seems to have almost a 100% failure rate within the timeframe of average ownership (3-5 yrs). Ideally, they should extend the warranty and work on a fix. My past experience with BMW suggests that they may never correct the problem. I had a 2001 740i which had a part with 100% failure rate by 40K miles. The radiator hose neck was plastic and was guaranteed to break at some point. BMW never corrected the issue. Basically the car was EOL'ed with the defect intact even though that defect was present since the introduction of the car 6 yrs earlier. My previous car, a BMW Z3 M Coupe had a part that was almost guaranteed to fail but at much higher mileage. The rear subframe would rust out. I think BMW eventually recalled or was forced to recall all cars to get that replaced. I don't know if the replacement was failure-proof. Luckily, I sold both of those cars before i encountered the problems. Unfortunately, the N54 exhibits the HPFP issue at random times so I am prepared for the worst. If I do get stranded because of it, BMW USA is going to get an earfull from me.

[Drakos]

This must be a huge problem that exists mainly in the US. Most of the threads I have read involving the HPFP does not stem in Canada or Europe. Would ethanol have such a drastic effect after only 2000 miles? Shell up here is about the only gas station that does not use ethanol in their fuel. I guess BMWNA is waiting for someone to die on the road as a result of a HPFP failure before they do anything about it. What a pathetic excuse of poor service and customer relations.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by rag133

I did not know about the HPFP problem. I would have thought looking back now since it has been going on a while someone at BMW would be working on a way to correct the damn thing from the factory. I guess not.

My apologies for sounding harsh. I had assumed you spent time on this board or others researching the car.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by DJKhan85

Looks like you will never be buying a BMW in the future. The majority are going to be turbos.

Well not really. I think it's only the current gen HPFP's. I read that there is a new pump design which will come out with the engine that replaces the N54.