91 Octane Dynos ONLY *POST HERE*

riceygts · 06-20-2009, 02:49 PM

We've all seen the 100 octane 400whp+ dynos...

I think this will be helpful for all the CA guys who want to see what people put down on daily driven 91 octane pump gas. I think this will also help compare different mods by taking the octane variable out.

I'll start it off...

Location: Dyno was done at MD automotive in Westminster.

Conditions: 68 degrees with 85% humidity (slight drizzle). Couldn't ask for a better day to dyno.

Mods: 91 Octane, JB3 1.3 Map 3, BMS DCI, Active Autowerke IC, AR catless DPs

luca335i · 06-20-2009, 03:04 PM

380 on 91 octane? And on map3? How?

Mr. 5 · 06-20-2009, 03:08 PM

AA catless DPs??

riceygts · 06-20-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by luca335i

380 on 91 octane? And on map3? How?

Ideal weather conditions I suppose.

uhcoug2011 · 06-20-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by riceygts

Ideal weather conditions I suppose.

Bro you know there is no such thing as AA catless downpipes

riceygts · 06-20-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by uhcoug2011

Bro you know there is no such thing as AA catless downpipes

whoops.. I meant AR.. Got too excited about my AA IC

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Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-20-2009, 03:35 PM

Overall looks good, but next time start the runs around 1800rpm. Loading it up at 1000rpm in 4th gear with lagfix can induce that torque spike. Also it seems the tach signal is dropping out, plot power by MPH instead of RPM to see.

Mike

riceygts · 06-20-2009, 03:49 PM

Here is a comparison chart of stock IC vs AA IC (in 8 degrees cooler weather and also 30% more humidity).

MACH V · 06-20-2009, 03:55 PM

Wow the AA intercooler made some sick gains!

kryzeofkrayzie · 06-20-2009, 03:55 PM

I dyno'd w/ riceygts

similar conditions 82-85 humidity

AR designs dp
Injen DCI
HKS exhaust
ETS FMIC
JB 3 map #3 (91 octane)
Heavy 19's too

kryzeofkrayzie · 06-20-2009, 03:59 PM

Oh.. And before and after ets FMIC. I had HUGE TIMING AND KNOCK ISSUES W/ the stock IC w/ my setup. ETS FMIC fixed all those issues!

Driver72 · 06-20-2009, 03:59 PM

Even starting the dyno at 1500 rpms you (the OP) still got that big torque spike (that kind of skews the true torque results).
I think Terry should check your map or something, it should not spike up like that at 2500 rpms only to drop quickly afterward. Thats the results we got with the original tunes when we used to do the solenoid bypass.
Your torque should build and be more flat in the 370 rwtq range where it is after that big boost spike.

You can clearly seen the gains of the aftermarket FMIC above 5000 rpms where the stock one is already getting hot and pulling power.

Driver72 · 06-20-2009, 04:02 PM

Kryz, your dynos look better to me and your torque numbers are better overall, but you are also still getting a bit of a boost spike around 2500 rpms (maybe that's why the a/f ratio goes off the charts there).
But your power delivery is much better/smoother.

riceygts · 06-20-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver72

Kryz, your dynos look better to me and your torque numbers are better overall, but you are also still getting a bit of a boost spike around 2500 rpms (maybe that's why the a/f ratio goes off the charts there).
But your power delivery is much better/smoother.

Our graphs actually look pretty similar when scaled the same in winPEP.

luca335i · 06-20-2009, 04:10 PM

Nice graph kryz. What's with the 4500 rpm drop on the first one ?

Terrance28 · 06-20-2009, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riceygts

We've all seen the 100 octane 400whp+ dynos...

I think this will be helpful for all the CA guys who want to see what people put down on daily driven 91 octane pump gas. I think this will also help compare different mods by taking the octane variable out.

I'll start it off...

Location: Dyno was done at MD automotive in Westminster.

Conditions: 68 degrees with 85% humidity (slight drizzle). Couldn't ask for a better day to dyno.

Mods: 91 Octane, JB3 1.3 Map 3, BMS DCI, Active Autowerke IC, AR catless DPs

Why are you dynoing on map 3 you have all the mods you could've dynoed on map 6 or 7.

David 12 · 06-20-2009, 07:11 PM

Probably because of the 91 octane?

Terrance28 · 06-20-2009, 07:12 PM

Oh yeah haha.

riceygts · 06-20-2009, 10:45 PM

anyone else with 91 octo runs?

xsb00st · 06-20-2009, 11:09 PM

Nice dynos! I wonder how Map 5 would have dyno'd with 91 Octane. Lots of folks run Map 3 w/out any mods.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 06-21-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Driver72

Even starting the dyno at 1500 rpms you (the OP) still got that big torque spike (that kind of skews the true torque results).
I think Terry should check your map or something, it should not spike up like that at 2500 rpms only to drop quickly afterward. Thats the results we got with the original tunes when we used to do the solenoid bypass.
Your torque should build and be more flat in the 370 rwtq range where it is after that big boost spike.

You can clearly seen the gains of the aftermarket FMIC above 5000 rpms where the stock one is already getting hot and pulling power.

It is just from flooring the car at 1000rpm in 4th on the dyno. The integral builds up and carries the boost past its target. With real word loading, it doesn't happen. Floor the car around 1500-2000rpm when dynoing.

Mike

sbdavis1 · 06-21-2009, 02:47 PM

keep this going. I want to see what map 5 on 91 yields with the FMIC and DP's...

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riceygts Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 264 Posts Drives: 09 N54 6MT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (1)	91 Octane Dynos ONLY POST HERE We've all seen the 100 octane 400whp+ dynos... I think this will be helpful for all the CA guys who want to see what people put down on daily driven 91 octane pump gas. I think this will also help compare different mods by taking the octane variable out. I'll start it off... Location: Dyno was done at MD automotive in Westminster. Conditions: 68 degrees with 85% humidity (slight drizzle). Couldn't ask for a better day to dyno. Mods: 91 Octane, JB3 1.3 Map 3, BMS DCI, Active Autowerke IC, AR catless DPs Last edited by riceygts; 06-20-2009 at 03:25 PM..
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4918 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	Overall looks good, but next time start the runs around 1800rpm. Loading it up at 1000rpm in 4th gear with lagfix can induce that torque spike. Also it seems the tach signal is dropping out, plot power by MPH instead of RPM to see. Mike
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riceygts Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 264 Posts Drives: 09 N54 6MT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (1)	Here is a comparison chart of stock IC vs AA IC (in 8 degrees cooler weather and also 30% more humidity).
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kryzeofkrayzie Enlisted Member 2 Rep 46 Posts Drives: MontegoBluE92 / Nhpdc5 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Gabriel Valley iTrader: (3)	I dyno'd w/ riceygts similar conditions 82-85 humidity AR designs dp Injen DCI HKS exhaust ETS FMIC JB 3 map #3 (91 octane) Heavy 19's too Attached Images Last edited by kryzeofkrayzie; 06-20-2009 at 04:10 PM..
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kryzeofkrayzie Enlisted Member 2 Rep 46 Posts Drives: MontegoBluE92 / Nhpdc5 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: San Gabriel Valley iTrader: (3)	Oh.. And before and after ets FMIC. I had HUGE TIMING AND KNOCK ISSUES W/ the stock IC w/ my setup. ETS FMIC fixed all those issues! Attached Images
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Driver72 Brigadier General 327 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Even starting the dyno at 1500 rpms you (the OP) still got that big torque spike (that kind of skews the true torque results). I think Terry should check your map or something, it should not spike up like that at 2500 rpms only to drop quickly afterward. Thats the results we got with the original tunes when we used to do the solenoid bypass. Your torque should build and be more flat in the 370 rwtq range where it is after that big boost spike. You can clearly seen the gains of the aftermarket FMIC above 5000 rpms where the stock one is already getting hot and pulling power.
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Driver72 Brigadier General 327 Rep 4,484 Posts Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Kryz, your dynos look better to me and your torque numbers are better overall, but you are also still getting a bit of a boost spike around 2500 rpms (maybe that's why the a/f ratio goes off the charts there). But your power delivery is much better/smoother.
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luca335i Major 57 Rep 1,193 Posts Drives: 335I Sedan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Unknown iTrader: (3)	Nice graph kryz. What's with the 4500 rpm drop on the first one ? __________________
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David 12 Major 127 Rep 1,048 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X5 50i BSM, M Sport Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Omaha iTrader: (0)	Probably because of the 91 octane?
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Terrance28 Brigadier General 109 Rep 3,334 Posts Drives: Crimson Red E92 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (17)	Oh yeah haha. __________________ Mods list got too long, lets just say more than enough.
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riceygts Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 264 Posts Drives: 09 N54 6MT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (1)	anyone else with 91 octo runs?
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xsb00st Lieutenant Colonel 185 Rep 1,640 Posts Drives: Slow Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Earth iTrader: (21)	Nice dynos! I wonder how Map 5 would have dyno'd with 91 Octane. Lots of folks run Map 3 w/out any mods.
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sbdavis1 First Lieutenant 20 Rep 325 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: tempe iTrader: (2)	keep this going. I want to see what map 5 on 91 yields with the FMIC and DP's...
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