[battlehawk1025]

other tread didn't get far. Just as the title states. If so How? what equipment is necessary

[Evil E90]

I don't know... reprogramming sounds like trouble to me.

[NoMods]

Originally Posted by Takashi

I don't reprogram my car even if my life depends on it. It's very tricky and lots of things can go wrong if it is not done correctly.

this - i would never risk it

[Topless 335i]

Can you possibly imagine how wrong things can go? And when you take it to the dealership, they're gonna slap you with a voided warranty and make you pay thousands to fix all the things that went wrong.

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Doesn't look that hard to me.

[Delta0311]

I get chills trying to falsh the BIOS on a PC motherboard, let alone reprogram my car. Sorry man but that sounds like a really bad idea. A lot can go wrong and you'd be screwed if it does. I doubt the dealer would let you slide on that one. You might as well call him before hand and tell him to void you warranty.

[mbj898]

what exactly are you trying to reprogram?

if you talking about tuning i dont think it can be done even though i would really like it to be able to. Subarus and mitsubishis all have the openecu setup to do that and it really is nice and relatively easy to do

unfortunately nothing exists for bmw, at least that i know of

sharkedit was suppose to do this but no one really knows what happened to that

[battlehawk1025]

I was thinking like when you add an accesory like the ipod

[SoCalTech]

Trust me, just have it done correctly at the dealership. I can't get into details, but trust me, it's not worth it to try to do it yourself.

[nhhiep]

yes, it's possible. I did that a few times. just go to their website to download a new BIOS to your laptop. then hook up a USB cable to your car. It will flash and reboot after it's done

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by battlehawk1025

I was thinking like when you add an accesory like the ipod

Here's an example of what's needed to install an iPod kit:

Programmer (autologic or DIS/SSS/OPS/Progman)
Power Supply (not a battery charger, this will brick modules during updating), we use the Fronius systems
Optiplexer/Programming head for MOST

If you've got about $13-15K laying around for the needed equipment, not a problem.

Originally Posted by Takashi

I don't reprogram my car even if my life depends on it. It's very tricky and lots of things can go wrong if it is not done correctly.

100% correct.

[battlehawk1025]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Here's an example of what's needed to install an iPod kit:

Programmer (autologic or DIS/SSS/OPS/Progman)
Power Supply (not a battery charger, this will brick modules during updating), we use the Fronius systems
Optiplexer/Programming head for MOST

If you've got about $13-15K laying around for the needed equipment, not a problem.



100% correct.

thats alot of money, I'll stick with my BT cable for now

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by battlehawk1025

thats alot of money, I'll stick with my BT cable for now

Even so, coding requires a proper power supply.

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by nhhiep

yes, it's possible. I did that a few times. just go to their website to download a new BIOS to your laptop. then hook up a USB cable to your car. It will flash and reboot after it's done

You meant that in jest but those cars using the Microsoft platform, such as Fiat and Ford, can add new features by downloading them on a computer and transferring to a USB memory stick.

[hanmaas]

No.

[JoeyFiasco]

Originally Posted by JSpira

You meant that in jest but those cars using the Microsoft platform, such as Fiat and Ford, can add new features by downloading them on a computer and transferring to a USB memory stick.

I think that's just for the entertainment subsystem not the actual engine management

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Here's an example of what's needed to install an iPod kit:

Programmer (autologic or DIS/SSS/OPS/Progman)
Power Supply (not a battery charger, this will brick modules during updating), we use the Fronius systems
Optiplexer/Programming head for MOST

If you've got about $13-15K laying around for the needed equipment, not a problem.



100% correct.

It is just half of the story. You can code and reprogram your car without all these expensive equipment but you will be using a low level software which can kill your ECUs if you don't have enough knowledge how to play with it.

Currently the main issue is that you can only use Progman 32.1 as this is the last version of Progman and all later software versions have been moved to ISTA.
In my case I had to buy a good power supply and a cable. The total was around $300 (my car is pre march 2007 so I didn't need the D-CAN bus interface).
It took me around one month to get some basic knowledge and software to perform first coding and I can say you really have to spare a lot of time if you want to do it yourself.
I have updated most of my ECUs and activated some nice features, but I wouldn't recommend anyone doing the same unless you are really an enthusiast with some technical background and a lot of free time.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Patrys

It is just half of the story. You can code and reprogram your car without all these expensive equipment but you will be using a low level software which can kill your ECUs if you don't have enough knowledge how to play with it.

Currently the main issue is that you can only use Progman 32.1 as this is the last version of Progman and all later software versions have been moved to ISTA.
In my case I had to buy a good power supply and a cable. The total was around $300 (my car is pre march 2007 so I didn't need the D-CAN bus interface).
It took me around one month to get some basic knowledge and software to perform first coding and I can say you really have to spare a lot of time if you want to do it yourself.
I have updated most of my ECUs and activated some nice features, but I wouldn't recommend anyone doing the same unless you are really an enthusiast with some technical background and a lot of free time.

Hey Patryk
would love to know what features you were able to turn on.

[Patrys@BimmerTech]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Hey Patryk
would love to know what features you were able to turn on.

a few examples:
- turning off sidemarkers (there is a DIY but requires cutting of wires)
- folding mirrors with your remote control
- if you have an error from any of your aftermarket bulbs/leds you can turn it off forever (the car will stop monitoring it - not a real solution but it is better than driving with it)
- retrofits (you don't need to go to a stealer to have them coded, e.g. PDC, alarm and more)

There are lots of things you can do and even more that can be broken

[JSpira]

Originally Posted by JoeyFiasco

I think that's just for the entertainment subsystem not the actual engine management

It's not only entertainment but could be navigation, ACN, and other functionality. The OP of course did not specify what he wants to reprogram however.

[dmurray14]

Originally Posted by Patrys

It is just half of the story. You can code and reprogram your car without all these expensive equipment but you will be using a low level software which can kill your ECUs if you don't have enough knowledge how to play with it.

Currently the main issue is that you can only use Progman 32.1 as this is the last version of Progman and all later software versions have been moved to ISTA.
In my case I had to buy a good power supply and a cable. The total was around $300 (my car is pre march 2007 so I didn't need the D-CAN bus interface).
It took me around one month to get some basic knowledge and software to perform first coding and I can say you really have to spare a lot of time if you want to do it yourself.
I have updated most of my ECUs and activated some nice features, but I wouldn't recommend anyone doing the same unless you are really an enthusiast with some technical background and a lot of free time.

Glad to seem someone else is messing around, and I agree - I wouldn't suggest anyone do it unless they're familiar with the systems and operation (and know at least a little German!)

Best thing I did was disable the KZL kaltuberwachung - LED license plate lights error-free! Digital-v display is great too!

[battlehawk1025]

Originally Posted by Patrys

a few examples:
- turning off sidemarkers (there is a DIY but requires cutting of wires)
- folding mirrors with your remote control
- if you have an error from any of your aftermarket bulbs/leds you can turn it off forever (the car will stop monitoring it - not a real solution but it is better than driving with it)- retrofits (you don't need to go to a stealer to have them coded, e.g. PDC, alarm and more)

There are lots of things you can do and even more that can be broken

i'm looking to do these 2 things, i'm on summer break so i have lots of time on my hands. so what do i need exactly to do this. Proper power supply? D-CAN bus interface?