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      07-30-2006, 02:38 PM   #1
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With the 335i being just around the corner will you still take delivery of a 330i?

Just wondering.

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      07-30-2006, 02:42 PM   #2
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      07-30-2006, 02:54 PM   #3
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If I was in the market again, probably not. It certainly would be dependant on what sort of deal ($) could be had on a 330.
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      07-30-2006, 03:00 PM   #4
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If I was in the market again, probably not. It certainly would be dependant on what sort of deal ($) could be had on a 330.
The only way I'd take a 330i now is if I'm in the market for a 328i and get the 330i at a price close to the 328i's.
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      07-30-2006, 07:19 PM   #5
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Actually, after driving my 330 for over a month now I think I would.
The power is adequate and there's nothing like the smoothness on a N/A powerplant. I've had a couple of BMW's in the past, then went to turbocharged subarus for a while, but I wanted to go back to that smooth N/A BMW feeling.
I don't think I'd trade it for turbocharged BMW, it just doesn't seem right IMO. I love power though, so an M3 (sedan) is in my plans after lease end.
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      07-30-2006, 07:29 PM   #6
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Yes, given that the 330i can save me around $4,000 over the 335i

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      07-30-2006, 08:10 PM   #7
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I'm saving money

I'm not only saving 4K off msrp but i'm getting a great lease rate from bmw na. If I purchased a 335 with the same msrp it would cost me 125-150 more per month.

Since the car is for my wife , the 330 is just fine ........ and get better gas mileage.

Besides I already have my 02 M3 in the garage for myself.....
My 330i should be here in 6wks.
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      07-30-2006, 10:02 PM   #8
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People buy a 3 litre BMW are those who want his car to be sporty and high performance. If there were choices (now have), I will not want a 3 litre sports sedan without steering wheel gear shifters, twin turbo engine and a 50% more responsive brand new design auto transmission. This is just me. Technology view point, the 335i is top edge. The only depressing thing about the E92 is, it is still as 'ugly' as the E90; so you won't gain much turn heads in this department even a coupe is supposed to be more handsome. The taillamps of E92 make me sick!
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      07-30-2006, 10:34 PM   #9
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People buy a 3 litre BMW are those who want his car to be sporty and high performance. If there were choices (now have), I will not want a 3 litre sports sedan without steering wheel gear shifters, twin turbo engine and a 50% more responsive brand new design auto transmission. This is just me. Technology view point, the 335i is top edge. The only depressing thing about the E92 is, it is still as 'ugly' as the E90; so you won't gain much turn heads in this department even a coupe is supposed to be more handsome. The taillamps of E92 make me sick!
It doesn't take much to make you sick.
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      07-30-2006, 10:46 PM   #10
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Actually, after driving my 330 for over a month now I think I would.
The power is adequate and there's nothing like the smoothness on a N/A powerplant. I've had a couple of BMW's in the past, then went to turbocharged subarus for a while, but I wanted to go back to that smooth N/A BMW feeling.
I don't think I'd trade it for turbocharged BMW, it just doesn't seem right IMO. I love power though, so an M3 (sedan) is in my plans after lease end.
Very true,but having this kinda torque and extra HP,will really be great.The power delivery of the 335i won't be similar to the one of the Subaru tho.It's still going to be silky smooth without a surge of power a sec or so later after you put the hammer down.The M3 is out of my price range so the 335i will suffice.
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      07-30-2006, 11:57 PM   #11
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I bet a lot of 330i owners would pay an extra $4000 if they could swap their motors for the 335i's.
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I'm a little disappointed to read that there will be no "turbo whine" from the engine...according to Edmunds (E92 test drive). I was hoping there would be cool sounds coming from under the hood....I need to drive it to see if it's worth the extra $2100.

I guess this turbo is the silent type?
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      07-31-2006, 12:19 AM   #13
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Depends on the actual price difference.
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      07-31-2006, 01:09 AM   #14
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I'm a little disappointed to read that there will be no "turbo whine" from the engine...according to Edmunds (E92 test drive). I was hoping there would be cool sounds coming from under the hood....I need to drive it to see if it's worth the extra $2100.

I guess this turbo is the silent type?
Yea the whole fun about driving a turbo car is hearing that turbo spool up and feeling that boost kick in. Oh well........ I am sure that a aftermarket exhaust and an intake will make that turbo whine come out


No. I was going to buy a 330i a few months ago, but I heard the 335i was coming out so I didn't order it. I figure the 330i would have pretty resale with the 335i out (but I dono)
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      07-31-2006, 03:35 AM   #15
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The only way I'd take a 330i now is if I'm in the market for a 328i and get the 330i at a price close to the 328i's.
That's EXACTLY the reason I went for a 2006 330i

I was going to wait for the 328i in September, but then last week I got a $500 over invoice deal for a 330i thanks to a referral to a dealer thru someone on this post.

So I just went and put the deposite down for it over the weekend.
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      07-31-2006, 03:51 AM   #16
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The real cost difference is more like 5500-6000K. I can get 3500 off msrp right now plus you have to add the 2100 price increase. Once you throw in the great lease rate or money factor bmwna is offering the 330i starts to look really good.

Now , if the car was for me............. and not my wife , I would have to get the 335i . You can't turn down the 45 extra hp .... and 80lbs of torque you get . Not to mention the tuning potential for the future .

My ultimate plan is to lease the 330i for 36mo and after about 24mo or so roll it into a 335i but don't tell my wife. I'll have to decide on upgrading my e46 m3 pretty soon also .
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I bet a lot of 330i owners would pay an extra $4000 if they could swap their motors for the 335i's.
amen to that...
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      07-31-2006, 08:17 AM   #19
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I was debating this when I got my 330i last week. I was able to get Sport, Premium, Cold Weather, Nav, Auto, Sat prep and mats and drove out for under 46k. An equally equipped 335i was going to be thousands more. I felt like it was a good deal so I went with it.
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I would, and I am. Sure the 335i is going to be an absolute blast, but I disagree that the 330i is some sort of obselete dinosaur just because the 335i is coming out. I got an absolute steal on a 330i lease, and for the money I'm going to pay, there's not a better car out there. Besides, I figure at the end of the lease I'll just move to an M3 or a 535i. The 5 series will be near the end of its life cycle by then (and hopefully facelifted for the better), so I'm sure there will be some deals to be had there.

However, if I were buying instead of leasing, I'm sure my thought process would be different, as the intro of the new motors will certainly have an adverse affect on the future desirability (and therefore resale value) of the 330i.
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      07-31-2006, 10:32 AM   #21
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Yes, and I just did. Don't get me wrong the 335i looks to be a very promising car but take it from a guy who just sold his A6 2.7T biturbo, having turbos require a lot more attention than that of a N/A engine. First let me add that I never had any issue with my A6 that relate to the turbos (except for a leak on the oil feed lines covered under warranty) but also keep in mind that I am a very meticulous person when it comes to my vehicles.

With that said however, the additional power of the 335i is great but it is the maintenence of such engines that worries me. Two turbos means two addition point of failure which judging from the pictures flying around on the new engine, looks like an expensive proposition to fix. If its anything like the Audi, the entire engine must be dropped and if one turbo fails they both must be replaced. Prober warm up and cool down procedure MUST, I repeat must be done for longevity of the turbos. That means during the cold seasons (for those of us that experience it) it becomes extremely important to let the oil temp rise before you get on those turbos. This is probably the reason why the 335i has an engine coolant temp (even though oil temp would have been better) instead of the MPG gauge. Additionally for those that like to do spirited driving now and then, it is also important to let the engine idle before shuting it off to prevent the oil from cooking and sludging in the turbos. If BMW was smart (hopefully they were) they would have included an after run pump to help prevent this.

I for one would never buy a used 335i as the history of how the previous driver maintained the car as well as what they did with the car become extremely important. Resale value may hurt here.

Lets not even talk about all the voided warranties, black listed VIN and such that will occur once people start chipping and modifing the ECU. Once again resale value may hurt here due to this. There is a reason Audi stopped producing the 2.7T and 4.2T and move most of their lineup to bigger displacement N/A engines. Rumor has it it was costing them to much. It eventually got to the point where Audi began black listing VINs of cars that were modified/chipped so that warranty work could not be done at any dealer. I pretty sure BMW will follow a similar path.

There is simply no replacement for displacement. The 330i is enough for me in terms of power and peace of mind for a daily driver. Now if BMW can shoe-horn a V8 into the 3 series chasis (I'm new to the BMW crowd, so excuse me if this is the planned M3) then they will truley have my attention.

I love my 2006 330i and the very fact that I don't have to worry anymore about such thing as boost leak, diverter valves, vaccum tubes, oil temp, etc. that comes along with a turbo is priceless. I'd gladly buy a another 330i even if the 335i was out and selling like hotcakes. To each his own I guess.
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There is simply no replacement for displacement.
Coming from several years of driving turbo cars, that's exactly the way I feel. I wouldn't trade N/A for turbos ever again. That's why I'll try to move up to an M3 at the end of my lease in three years.
I love the sportiness and lightness of the 3 series, that's why I wouldn't consider a 5 with a V8. Maybe when I'm older and I don't enjoy driving I will...I really don't see that happening though
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