Future 335i owners, say hello to the heart of your beast.. 335i engine model

Jason · 07-12-2006, 11:56 PM

BMW 335i petrol bi-turbo direct injection engine

BMW F22 · 07-12-2006, 11:58 PM

where do you get all these pictures?

Dawg Nuts · 07-13-2006, 12:09 AM

Man, that's hot!!

Pretender · 07-13-2006, 12:34 AM

Holy cow...

prototyp · 07-13-2006, 12:51 AM

Awesome.

Nikki · 07-13-2006, 01:04 AM

i like seeing pics of the engines because then my boyfriend quizzes me on it and it's fun and educational.

David328M-Sport · 07-13-2006, 02:18 AM

Now that's world leading engineering.
Hats off to the development team.
Even those mock ups look GREAT. Probably all plastic as well!!! (???)

Congratulations BMW.

MrSilver · 07-13-2006, 07:23 AM

Come to Papa!!!

stressdoc · 07-13-2006, 07:31 AM

Judging from the support structures etc. they look like real working parts (castings etc.) to me. I will be curious to get a better look at the piezo injectors and their control system.

Anyone heard more about how the 335 is getting around the lack of low sulfur fuel problem? Why can we run the N54 but not the N53 DI engines??????

txusa03 · 07-13-2006, 08:03 AM

mkoesel · 07-13-2006, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

Anyone heard more about how the 335 is getting around the lack of low sulfur fuel problem? Why can we run the N54 but not the N53 DI engines??????

Was discussiing this in another forum, and my best guess is that it does not do lean burn, so it can still pass emissions. I don't think Audi's 2.0L does lean burn either, and I know BMW V12 does not.

Traceaz · 07-13-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by David325Australia

Now that's world leading engineering.
Hats off to the development team.
Even those mock ups look GREAT. Probably all plastic as well!!! (???)

Congratulations BMW.

Well, German AND Japanese engineering. Pretty sure the engine for the 335i was jointly developed by both Mitsubishi and BMW. Now sure why, maybe Mitsubishi has more knowledge with turbo engineering or BMW was having design problems/questions and MHI has more experience in these areas? Not sure.

I just hope its mostly BMW/German engineering with a little help/tweaking/advice from Mitsubishi, rather than say mostly Mitsubishi engineering and design, but BMW paid Mitsubishi so they can tag their name to it and say it was a "joint development". Maybe all Mitsubishi did was the turbo-chargers though, I'm not sure.

stressdoc · 07-13-2006, 09:43 AM

The turbos were jointly developed, not the engine.

Frosty · 07-13-2006, 10:16 AM

hmmm interesting, the turbo was a joint development design.. THe only thing that scares me about Mitsubishi is hte closeness they have to GM..

~Frost

SCA · 07-13-2006, 10:22 AM

Do those pics show a 335 with direct injection?

If I am not mistaken isn't that what the 335i will get elsewhere except for the NA market?

BTW, Great pics!

Insider · 07-13-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TracerHawk

Well, German AND Japanese engineering. Pretty sure the engine for the 335i was jointly developed by both Mitsubishi and BMW. Now sure why, maybe Mitsubishi has more knowledge with turbo engineering or BMW was having design problems/questions and MHI has more experience in these areas? Not sure.

I just hope its mostly BMW/German engineering with a little help/tweaking/advice from Mitsubishi, rather than say mostly Mitsubishi engineering and design, but BMW paid Mitsubishi so they can tag their name to it and say it was a "joint development". Maybe all Mitsubishi did was the turbo-chargers though, I'm not sure.

The only thing that Mitsubishi did was design the turbos to BMW's specifications. BMW designed the engine. BMW has plenty of experience with turbos having designed many turbo diesels.

Jason · 07-13-2006, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SCA

Do those pics show a 335 with direct injection?

If I am not mistaken isn't that what the 335i will get elsewhere except for the NA market?

BTW, Great pics!

Yes, this is the direct injection 335i engine

mkoesel · 07-13-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

hmmm interesting, the turbo was a joint development design.. THe only thing that scares me about Mitsubishi is hte closeness they have to GM..

~Frost

You gotta keep in mind that there are parts all over the motor designed by suppliers and others outside BMW. I'm sure Mitsubishi knows how to build a turbocharger given they've been selling world class turbocharged motors for the past decade and then some.

SCA · 07-13-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Yes, this is the direct injection 335i engine

Thanks Jason,

I thought that was what I was looking at.

mkoesel · 07-13-2006, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SCA

Do those pics show a 335 with direct injection?

If I am not mistaken isn't that what the 335i will get elsewhere except for the NA market?

All markets that get the 335i get the same direct injected turbo charged motor. Its the naturally aspirated one that we don't get in North America (and probably some other places too).

Juve29 · 07-13-2006, 12:08 PM

Great pics.

Frosty · 07-13-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

You gotta keep in mind that there are parts all over the motor designed by suppliers and others outside BMW. I'm sure Mitsubishi knows how to build a turbocharger given they've been selling world class turbocharged motors for the past decade and then some.

...ok, good point, there are so many collaborations for part supplying.. its facinating to get down to so many details with this car... the engine is a work of art as is this presentation of hte engine with some parts omitted to show hte artistry.... wonderful. I cant want to drive this in the fall...if mine gets built LOL

~Frost

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