help with: 335d drive-train transplanted into concept car

jamisonbruch · 03-13-2009, 04:51 PM

Hello all, my first post... hopefully one that will stimulate the synapses, cuz I'm in a bit of a pickle.

I need to remove the power train of a beautiful, zero-mile, '09 335d, and install it into a concept car. Certifications/regulations require the power train to be complete with all emissions etc. BUT, nothing else (abs, stability, stereo, theft, cheek warmers, etc etc etc) is needed.

Can anyone point me in the direction of hardware/software/someone who might know the E90 bus system/network inside and out? How to prune things off and not trigger "limp mode" or accidentally kill it outright.

Jamison

getInline · 03-13-2009, 05:07 PM

I'm thinking the Bavarian Technic guys might be your best bet....sounds very interesting, best of luck to you.

jamisonbruch · 03-13-2009, 05:26 PM

I spoke with a software guy there, he recommended I call back next week when the automotive network guy returns.

Their tool is for diagnostics... from what I can tell it would be a really great tool (wow, and reasonably priced) for telling me why the motor/trans ECU is unhappy, not as useful for keeping it happy, or forcing it to shut-up and drive.

Maybe there's a hardcore tuner somewhere who does this for clients who want everything stripped out, except for the powertrain?

Morpheus · 03-13-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jamisonbruch

I spoke with a software guy there, he recommended I call back next week when the automotive network guy returns.

Their tool is for diagnostics... from what I can tell it would be a really great tool (wow, and reasonably priced) for telling me why the motor/trans ECU is unhappy, not as useful for keeping it happy, or forcing it to shut-up and drive.

Maybe there's a hardcore tuner somewhere who does this for clients who want everything stripped out, except for the powertrain?

I'm curious. I would think someone with the resources to start a gig like this wouldn't be on an internet forum asking for help.

335iPaul · 03-13-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Morpheus

I'm curious. I would think someone with the resources to start a gig like this wouldn't be on an internet forum asking for help.

jamisonbruch · 03-13-2009, 07:18 PM

research

Maybe someone has sniffed enough of the can/lin network to be valuable. Vector, Ittax and Intrepid have the tools to reverse engineer the network, but do I really have to redo something that someone might have already done? At least flexray hasn't been integrated into this model yet... now that would be painful.

jamisonbruch · 03-17-2009, 03:04 PM

Update... There is no way in hell.
Forum guys (many of them BMW techs) have helped me steer clear of this gig without BMW Corp help. SCCA racers, tuners, reverse engineering firms and other concept car guys all confirm.
Thanks for the input guys.

Jamison

collin · 03-18-2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jamisonbruch

Update... There is no way in hell.
Forum guys (many of them BMW techs) have helped me steer clear of this gig without BMW Corp help. SCCA racers, tuners, reverse engineering firms and other concept car guys all confirm.

so out of curiosity, what's gonna happen? are you just dropping the gig, or looking for another powertrain to use?

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jamisonbruch Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	help with: 335d drive-train transplanted into concept car Hello all, my first post... hopefully one that will stimulate the synapses, cuz I'm in a bit of a pickle. I need to remove the power train of a beautiful, zero-mile, '09 335d, and install it into a concept car. Certifications/regulations require the power train to be complete with all emissions etc. BUT, nothing else (abs, stability, stereo, theft, cheek warmers, etc etc etc) is needed. Can anyone point me in the direction of hardware/software/someone who might know the E90 bus system/network inside and out? How to prune things off and not trigger "limp mode" or accidentally kill it outright. Jamison
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getInline Lieutenant 12 Rep 412 Posts Drives: 2008 335 Coupe, c32 AMG Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parts Unknown iTrader: (1)	I'm thinking the Bavarian Technic guys might be your best bet....sounds very interesting, best of luck to you.
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jamisonbruch Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	good call I spoke with a software guy there, he recommended I call back next week when the automotive network guy returns. Their tool is for diagnostics... from what I can tell it would be a really great tool (wow, and reasonably priced) for telling me why the motor/trans ECU is unhappy, not as useful for keeping it happy, or forcing it to shut-up and drive. Maybe there's a hardcore tuner somewhere who does this for clients who want everything stripped out, except for the powertrain?
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jamisonbruch Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	research Maybe someone has sniffed enough of the can/lin network to be valuable. Vector, Ittax and Intrepid have the tools to reverse engineer the network, but do I really have to redo something that someone might have already done? At least flexray hasn't been integrated into this model yet... now that would be painful.
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jamisonbruch Registered 1 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Update... There is no way in hell. Forum guys (many of them BMW techs) have helped me steer clear of this gig without BMW Corp help. SCCA racers, tuners, reverse engineering firms and other concept car guys all confirm. Thanks for the input guys. Jamison
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