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      10-29-2007, 09:22 PM   #1
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335i = dual exhaust 135 = dual tips passenger side

I am a little curious as to why the 335i has a true duel looking exhaust but the 135i has duel exhaust on passenger like a E36. I know it is still a full duel exhaust but why the difference. Was it a clearance issue, cost issue or maybe a weight issue. (Well not so much a weight issue but I'm sure 1 muffler is lighter than 2.So that would help with making the 1 lighter than the 3.)

Any thoughts????
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I am a little curious as to why the 335i has a true duel looking exhaust but the 135i has duel exhaust on passenger like a E36. I know it is still a full duel exhaust but why the difference. Was it a clearance issue, cost issue or maybe a weight issue. (Well not so much a weight issue but I'm sure 1 muffler is lighter than 2.So that would help with making the 1 lighter than the 3.)

Any thoughts????

Retro look. The 1 series is not based of the current platform, but suposedly a "throwback" car highlighting a youthful era of BMW.
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      10-29-2007, 09:30 PM   #3
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the 2002 right?
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Retro look. The 1 series is not based of the current platform, but suposedly a "throwback" car highlighting a youthful era of BMW.
Stop spewing this crap Garrett. It makes you look like a clueless idiot. The 1 series is a BMW economy car. The 135i Coupe is the same platform with different skin from the B pillar. The single exhaust is to save money.
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Probably packaging too.
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I'd say its mostly to fit the "design" that they wanted.
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It would have been nice to see a true "look" dual exhaust. But that just leaves room for aftermarket companies like eisanhaus to make one.
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I am a little curious as to why the 335i has a true duel looking exhaust but the 135i has duel exhaust on passenger like a E36. I know it is still a full duel exhaust but why the difference. Was it a clearance issue, cost issue or maybe a weight issue. (Well not so much a weight issue but I'm sure 1 muffler is lighter than 2.So that would help with making the 1 lighter than the 3.)

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BMW traditionally had the left side dual exhaust. Since the 135 is getting back to a more traditional and retro look. It was only proper.

Secondly, the e90 335 was the first car to buck this tradition and go with seperate dual tips. Underneith the car the 335 is also a true dual-exhaust system, where as he 135 meets and has a common exhaust.

Here is a few pics of an e46 330ci: I'm sure the 135i isn't any less restrictive.






If it is.... aftermarket will solve this little "tuner" problem..!








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a) weight
b) design
c) cost
d) clearance
E) all the above
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      11-07-2007, 06:08 PM   #10
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Secondly, the e90 335 was the first car to buck this tradition and go with separate dual tips. Underneath the car the 335 is also a true dual-exhaust system, where as he 135 meets and has a common exhaust.


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:iono:The E46 M3 um..."bucked the traditional" and the M Roadster and M coupe 1998-2002 as well as the new Z4 versions.

In my 95 M3 the exhaust connects before the Cats for the O2 sensor and then separates again cause OBD1 only runs 2 O2 sensors. OBD2 runs 4 O2 sensors so the exhaust stays separate with a single muffler. Is that what you meant when you said the "135 meets and has a common exhaust"?
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:iono:The E46 M3 um..."bucked the traditional" and the M Roadster and M coupe 1998-2002 as well as the new Z4 versions.

In my 95 M3 the exhaust connects before the Cats for the O2 sensor and then separates again cause OBD1 only runs 2 O2 sensors. OBD2 runs 4 O2 sensors so the exhaust stays separate with a single muffler. Is that what you meant when you said the "135 meets and has a common exhaust"?

Dude, we are talking about NON-M cars....!

And... NO, that is not what I ment. The comparo was between the 335 and the 135..! The 335 has a true dual exhaust all the way back, the 135 does not!

M cars are another beast completly and not apart of this discussion! But, as "for bucking this tradition" The 335 is one of the first BMW's to not have the dual exhaust tips on the driver side, but single tips on each side.

Hence:





How their plumbed is insignificant to the conversation, the OP wanted to know WHY..!!




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Dude, we are talking about NON-M cars....!

And... NO, that is not what I ment. The comparo was between the 335 and the 135..! The 335 has a true dual exhaust all the way back, the 135 does not!

M cars are another beast completly and not apart of this discussion! But, as "for bucking this tradition" The 335 is one of the first BMW's to not have the dual exhaust tips on the driver side, but single tips on each side.

Hence:





How their plumbed is insignificant to the conversation, the OP wanted to know WHY..!!




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645i was the first, I think that is where BMW got the inspiration for the 335i.

I'm sure cost and trying to be more traditional are the two main reasons BMW when the single side rout.
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A more restrictive exhaust making up for the 135is gain in power relative to the 335i due to its lighter curb weight
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I'm confused.... the 135 isn't a true dual exhaust Both exhaust manifolds merge into one pipe after the Cats :iono:
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645i was the first...
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Garrett, you said "the e90 335 was the first car " you didn't say first non M car so i miss understood you.
And sorry Both me and my girlfriend own M3's so thats the only thing i have to compair to. Thats why i'm here asking questions.

So your saying the 135 has a single pipe back to the muffler?
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I'm confused.... the 135 isn't a true dual exhaust Both exhaust manifolds merge into one pipe after the Cats :iono:
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Well, there's a manifold for each turbo, from there, there are 2 downpipes which run to two separate cats. The exhaust pipe then runs into a "Y" pipe which merges the two into one which continues to the muffler which has a dual exit.

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Garrett, you said "the e90 335 was the first car " you didn't say first non M car so i miss understood you.
And sorry Both me and my girlfriend own M3's so thats the only thing i have to compair to. Thats why i'm here asking questions.

So your saying the 135 has a single pipe back to the muffler?

It's more than obvious and the "understood you" of the BMW community that when you mentuion "cars" you don't mean the M-Division... because they are of a different breed and it's assumed that those cars would have the highest engineering standard and application. What retard would think the M3 or any M didn't have a performance exhaust..?


That said^^.... the OP was strictly discussing the "cosmetic", superficial placment of the exhaust tips. And was wondering if the was a reason the 335 and the 135 were different.
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Secondly, the e90 335 was the first car to buck this tradition and go with seperate dual tips. Underneith the car the 335 is also a true dual-exhaust system, where as he 135 meets and has a common exhaust.
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The 335 is one of the first BMW's to not have the dual exhaust tips on the driver side, but single tips on each side.
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You just contradicted yourself so please learn the English language before you try to internet bash someone. You never specified non-m cars when you stated the first car.
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Hey (GARRETT) mister I only have balls to call someone a retard because your behind your computer. Your that same Ricer that drives buy and yells shit out your window and keeps driving.

"What retard would think the M3 or any M didn't have a performance exhaust..? '
What the hell are you talking about??? This is MY thread!! I'm the one looking for information.

So as far as I'm concerned you opinion on this thread is not needed!!! I will no longer be responding to your idiotic remarks. Go ruin someone else's thread.
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