[PabloK]

Full review to come but here she is! -Crank up the speakers!

Very fortunate to have such a car in the fleet.

[spuntyb]

Congratulations!

[micvite]

ouch, revving a cold car...

[m5_mbb7]

Originally Posted by micvite

ouch, revving a cold car...

Fr especially one that probably has <50 miles 😬😬

[micvite]

Originally Posted by m5_mbb7

Fr especially one that probably has <50 miles 😬😬

And this is why I stay away from used cars lol

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by micvite

ouch, revving a cold car...

Nah cars fine.

[micvite]

Originally Posted by PabloK

Nah cars fine.

Yeah it's fine for you, especially on a car you can easily get rid of, not your problem right? Send it to the next guy that's gonna say he bent a rod on a stock motor and how unreliable these things are...

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by micvite

Yeah it's fine for you, especially on a car you can easily get rid of, not your problem right? Send it to the next guy that's gonna say he bent a rod on a stock motor and how unreliable these things are...

Take a Xanax

It's in a 75 degree garage and it's -15 outside.

Do you think I'm redlining it here? Those are 2500-3000 rpm revs.

You think I'm selling this? Lol

Worry about yourself.

[Greer]

Hey Pablo,

Congrats and I look forward to seeing your full review of the car.

[CFoote]

Originally Posted by micvite

Yeah it's fine for you, especially on a car you can easily get rid of, not your problem right? Send it to the next guy that's gonna say he bent a rod on a stock motor and how unreliable these things are...

Leave him alone, it's for him to worry about, not you.

[micvite]

Originally Posted by PabloK

Take a Xanax

It's in a 75 degree garage and it's -15 outside.

Do you think I'm redlining it here? Those are 2500-3000 rpm revs.

You think I'm selling this? Lol

Worry about yourself.

I highly doubt you're keeping it until the rust easts it away 50 years from now so yeah you're gonna eventually sell it, and I'm gonna bet not too long after the warranty expires.

If you don't want people to comment on your life don't put your life out there for people to see, it's that simple, if you post something you are opening yourself up to criticism whether you like it or not.

[PabloK]

Originally Posted by micvite

I highly doubt you're keeping it until the rust easts it away 50 years from now so yeah you're gonna eventually sell it, and I'm gonna bet not too long after the warranty expires.

If you don't want people to comment on your life don't put your life out there for people to see, it's that simple, if you post something you are opening yourself up to criticism whether you like it or not.

Grow up

Your on a car forum acting like a 10 year old.

Who the hell are you?

Thought this place was for car guys… guess times have changed. Why did I even spend the time to post this.

[rS2g]

To OP enjoy your car!

To others who felt the need to offer their negative 2c. It's not your car ….. relax.

That wasn't aggressive revving either. Geez.

[micvite]

Originally Posted by PabloK

Grow up

Your on a car forum acting like a 10 year old.

Who the hell are you?

Thought this place was for car guys… guess times have changed. Why did I even spend the time to post this.

Look who's talking, you wouldn't get so offended if you weren't a kid, but I guess you feel the need to explain yourself so it's ok, I understand. To answer your question the reason you spent the time to post it is because you require validation from random people on the internet to show off your fancy car.

[mankid247]

Originally Posted by micvite

Look who's talking, you wouldn't get so offended if you weren't a kid, but I guess you feel the need to explain yourself so it's ok, I understand. To answer your question the reason you spent the time to post it is because you require validation from random people on the internet to show off your fancy car.

Coming from an internet "white knight" who flipped their allocation to make money. Yeah your opinion means nothing. You are a scumbag. Oh and I'll explain it for you, just so you know too. This is my car and I had just driven it shortly before. Oil was still at op temp, but you knew that right?

[micvite]

Originally Posted by mankid247

Coming from an internet "white knight" who flipped their allocation to make money. Yeah your opinion means nothing. You are a scumbag. Oh and I'll explain it for you, just so you know too. This is my car and I had just driven it shortly before. Oil was still at op temp, but you knew that right?

Ouch that really hurts lol so many people did just the same, so who cares? Honestly I'm the least scummy person considering how cheap I let it go instead of asking 100k over, kind of creepy you felt the need to stalk my profile and find my posts but suit yourself.

Now please don't insult my intelligence, on the m5 any time it does a "cold start" with elevated revs it means the car was dead cold. You claim you drove the car not long before, well anyone with an m5 knows that the the oil temps drop almost instantly once you turn the car off due to the fans and water pumps that run with the engine off in order to cool the car. My f10 would be at COLD on the oil temp gauge after not even 10 minutes of having the car off I would assume the f90 would be the same if not better in terms of getting the car to cool off so you don't sludge up the turbos with burnt oil residue after spirited driving.

But hey I'm sure you knew all of the things I just mentioned so... yeah you revved the piss out of a cold car.

Speaking of if it's your car why not make the post yourself? Need someone to hold your hand every step of the way or something? Sure is misleading when someone posts "just picked her up", almost seems like it's their car ya know?

[jsf721]

I’ll take that now defective car .

Enjoy it. Super car in the right color !

[m5biemer]

Super nice and sounds great!

[Kstoff125]

M5 just off the truck. Came in yesterday, just a little dirty. Stopped up and drove it a little, exhaust wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Car is amazing. I'll refrain from submitting any videos of me revving it, but I plan to beat the sh*t out of this thing.

[jnotrom711]

Originally Posted by jsf721

I’ll take that now defective car .

Enjoy it. Super car in the right color !

This above.... Exactly....

I'll take it with a blown motor. All day. 2x on Sunday (weird today is Sunday !)


And those little revs hurt nothing.... The oil pumps send plenty of oil (nearly) instantaneously through the engine.

If revving to 2500-3000 was so damaging to an engine, why on earth would BMW (and nearly every other manufacturer) raise the RPM for a cold start? Why don't they set up the car to not even let people drive it until it's up to operating temps if its so detrimental to the motor?

You'd think they'd just not let it above 1000 rpms if its that big a deal? I mean if people blow their motors left and right doing this, youd think BMW would void the warranty or not warranty a brand new car when they can see its been revved above 1000 rpm.

Why also, in between runs are race/ drag car teams trying to cool their engines down?

Oh thats right... because HEAT is a much more damaging attribute to an engine, and performance. If they could keep the internal temps even lower they would. Always.

Ill add that im sure BMW (like most manufacturers) likely put every engine through some pretty rigorous quality control measures prior to delivering it to a dealer. It is far from the fist time that motor has seen 2-3- hell, even 7,000 RPMs.

Lastly, to the OP who "isn't keeping it until rust is eating it away".... If ANY M5.... i'll go further even, ANY BMW.... is still running perfectly fine with 50 yrs from now, w/ no repairs, issues, or problems by the time the car is rusting away, i'll gladly hand that person who is selling the car massive award. That'll be quite impressive.

Most people buying an old pile of junk thats rusting away, the last thing they're worried about is if the motor was revved to 3000 rpm when it was nearly "new".

The car is SICK OP, nicely done. Dont worry about key board jockeys.

[mjr24]

I'm really confused....why does OP have 2 different accounts?

[micvite]

Originally Posted by jnotrom711

This above.... Exactly....

I'll take it with a blown motor. All day. 2x on Sunday (weird today is Sunday !)


And those little revs hurt nothing.... The oil pumps send plenty of oil (nearly) instantaneously through the engine.

If revving to 2500-3000 was so damaging to an engine, why on earth would BMW (and nearly every other manufacturer) raise the RPM for a cold start? Why don't they set up the car to not even let people drive it until it's up to operating temps if its so detrimental to the motor?

You'd think they'd just not let it above 1000 rpms if its that big a deal? I mean if people blow their motors left and right doing this, youd think BMW would void the warranty or not warranty a brand new car when they can see its been revved above 1000 rpm.

Why also, in between runs are race/ drag car teams trying to cool their engines down?

Oh thats right... because HEAT is a much more damaging attribute to an engine, and performance. If they could keep the internal temps even lower they would. Always.

Ill add that im sure BMW (like most manufacturers) likely put every engine through some pretty rigorous quality control measures prior to delivering it to a dealer. It is far from the fist time that motor has seen 2-3- hell, even 7,000 RPMs.

Lastly, to the OP who "isn't keeping it until rust is eating it away".... If ANY M5.... i'll go further even, ANY BMW.... is still running perfectly fine with 50 yrs from now, w/ no repairs, issues, or problems by the time the car is rusting away, i'll gladly hand that person who is selling the car massive award. That'll be quite impressive.

Most people buying an old pile of junk thats rusting away, the last thing they're worried about is if the motor was revved to 3000 rpm when it was nearly "new".

The car is SICK OP, nicely done. Dont worry about key board jockeys.

Ah more keyboard warrior misinformation! Gotta love it!

Bmw doesn't give a crap about the longevity of the car, if it lasts past the warranty expiration date they're happy, they want to make money aka they want the car to break and people to buy the new one. Cars are literally designed with expiration dates in mind in modern days for that reason.

Secondly bmw has the comply with shitty emissions regulations like every manufacturer, the only I repeat ONLY reason you have a "cold start" is because they're trying to get the catalytic converter and o2 sensor up to temp as quickly as possible for EMISSIONS, otherwise? Wouldn't do that. Now you may counter with saying older cars do it too, back when emissions didn't matter, that would be because they literally wouldn't be able to run the cars without it (I'm talking back in the choke days)
The cold start routine runs the secondary air system, richens the mix a bit, retards ignition, and advances the exhaust cam to open the exhaust valves sooner to get a little extra fuel out into the cats where decreases the time to warm up. The MSS65 (as with most previous BMW DMEs) has a series of triggers for "katheizen" (cat-heating) with a catalytic converter temperature model and heat-up/cool-down calculations. The main function runs on a timer which expires after so many seconds.

As far as for the drag strip, I can't really say as I'm not a professional drag racers nor do I take my cars to the drag strip very often, but from my conversations with people they're just trying to lower intake and fuel temps to shove more into their car aka why they turn the cars off during runs and use ice in a fuel cell and around the intake manifolds.

Now we move on to quality control! I don't know much about bmws version of this but can comment on porches, they randomly select engines to undergo engine dyno testing where they pump hot water through the block to get everything up to temp before they run it for a very short amount of time up to 75% of the redline if I remember correctly, it's been a while.

Assuming bmw has a similar procedure for quality control... and this is the official bmw break in procedure the for the f90 below and that the red line is somewhere around 7k if I'm not wrong 75% of 7k is 5250 which is literally what they tell you to do for break in! WOWWW!!! WHO WOULDVE THOUGHT!
Engine, transmission, and axle drive
Up to 1,200 miles/2,000 kmDrive at varying engine and road speeds, but do not exceed 5,500 rpm and 106 mph/170 km/h.
Avoid full load or kickdown under all circumstances.

Now to address your comment on the oil being sent through the engine almost instantly!
https://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1623438&page=3
Check pages 2-3 on that post and you can search f90 engine tick to see how many people get valvetrain tick for quite a while when engine is cold and they've come to the conclusion that it's normal and it's just the lifters adjusting from LACK OF OIL PRESSURE!

As for cars not needing repairs that's impossible, suspension fails over time even if you don't drive it, same with belts and hoses, it's rubber and plastic and fails over time, I'm talking about major repairs such as rod bearings, a full rebuild, a blown diff, slipping transmission etc. That should never happen if you take care of your car properly and if you want down the road if you're not too senile in 20-30 years we can talk about my m5 and I'll take you for a ride.

I wasn't talking about people that buy a car for 3k I'm talking about the next poor soul that's gonna buy this for close to msrp in 2 years and get a dud and a huge repair bill due to people that "swap the car out when the warranty expires so they don't care about it" its like te people that lease a new m5 and then put regular in it and do oil changes every 15k miles because it's a lease so who cares.