M5 Competition AWD vs RWD performance and tire comparison -- which is really faster?

Holset · 06-09-2021, 02:58 PM

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Also tests the Pirelli P Zero PZ4 and Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres.

KoenG · 06-12-2021, 04:59 PM

Very educational and fun video to watch. It demonstrates how a clever RWD complements a high performance car.

Also, one of the few occasions you can see the Montegi Red shining!

Greer · 06-13-2021, 02:03 AM

Very well done video!

Spot-M/// · 06-14-2021, 10:50 AM

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640ijims · 06-14-2021, 10:52 AM

I assume everyone anticipated the outcomes!

greentrbo95gst · 06-14-2021, 10:53 AM

I agree. People that have been complaining about AWD have not driven the car properly.

Logical · 06-14-2021, 11:06 AM

Great video! Can't wait to get one (eventually lol)

Likeanowl · 06-14-2021, 11:41 AM

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I agree

GOLFFRR · 06-14-2021, 11:54 AM

thats a cool video!

flanast · 06-14-2021, 12:06 PM

Very surprised by the dry results. Found that I had lots of understeer in 4 wheel drive sport at VIR full course. Still need to test it with 2 wheel drive though.

xcusem3 · 06-14-2021, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flanast

Very surprised by the dry results. Found that I had lots of understeer in 4 wheel drive sport at VIR full course. Still need to test it with 2 wheel drive though.

A 4400lb + car will do that LOL

KoenG · 06-14-2021, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 640ijims

I assume everyone anticipated the outcomes!

Not entirely... The difference in wet acceleration is no less than mind blowing! I would have anticipated about 20% delta, but not the demonstrated +50%!!

On the other hand, the delta on the wet course is limited, but I presume that the driver is experienced and could afford to take some risks on this closed circuit. In real live, you'd probably be less vigilant to explore the grip limits of the 4400lbs beast to avoid the risk you drive it into a tree or another scenery artefact.

640ijims · 06-14-2021, 05:14 PM

You would have had to drive a AWD //M in the rain …and have been in hurry in Tenn mountains

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 06-14-2021, 05:48 PM

The difference between acceleration times in the wet are outstanding. This M5 surely is a monster at everything it does well. Which is a lot.

ABenLauda · 06-14-2021, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

I agree. People that have been complaining about AWD have not driven the car properly.

If people know how to really drive a car properly, they wouldn't want AWD!

KoenG · 06-15-2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ABenChod

If people know how to really drive a car properly, they wouldn't want AWD!

What did I miss watching this video and listening to the conclusions? It clearly demonstrates that a beast of this great ability finds many advantages in integrating a clever AWD.

SenorFunkyPants · 06-15-2021, 04:51 PM

The guy has made quite a few informative tyre review videos...I especially liked the one comparing Michelin PSS against Michelin PS4S in an E92 M3.
I like his style...he makes well balanced informed commentary .

KoenG · 06-15-2021, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

The guy has made quite a few informative tyre review videos...I especially liked the one comparing Michelin PSS against Michelin PS4S in an E92 M3.
I like his style...he makes well balanced informed commentary .

Yes, and not like many other "stars" he's mainly driven by objective criteria. Also, I appreciate he doesn't pretend to be an ultimate flawless pilot that can judge any car just by looking at it.

In this video, it's clear he is baffled by the impressive M5C and I remember I felt exactly like that when I drove it a few years back through Bavaria. It recalibrated all I ever knew and thought was physically possible in a car this size and with this grace. It's just a massive impressive beast and this AWD helps a lot to bring it near to perfection.

wesleyan92 · 06-15-2021, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KoenG

Yes, and not like many other "stars" he's mainly driven by objective criteria. Also, I appreciate he doesn't pretend to be an ultimate flawless pilot that can judge any car just by looking at it.

In this video, it's clear he is baffled by the impressive M5C and I remember I felt exactly like that when I drove it a few years back through Bavaria. It recalibrated all I ever knew and thought was physically possible in a car this size and with this grace. It's just a massive impressive beast and this AWD helps a lot to bring it near to perfection.

Jonathan is so underrated. Great, informative, real world posts by him all the time.

https://www.instagram.com/jonathan__benson/

Dark-Knight · 06-16-2021, 08:33 AM

englisch types have a plastic lip around the rear wheel arch? Ive only seen it in RHD M5s

samj2k · 06-16-2021, 10:24 AM

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englisch types have a plastic lip around the rear wheel arch? Ive only seen it in RHD M5s

Yeah, we have the plastic lip round the rear wheel arch.

footie · 06-19-2021, 10:36 AM

The last M car I had prior to my M5C was a E92 M3 and the reason for this was it’s lack of AWD. Before that M3 and since it I had been driving mostly Quattro for the very reasons found in this video comparison.

Without a doubt RWD is more fun and dare I say scary at times too but the most effective mode is AWD especially so in the wet which is the kind of weather my country experiences. I was kind of surprised that even in the dry the M5 was also quicker in both AWD modes and the difference between both modes was minimal.

If the above video is consistent from review to review then is it any wonder why both Mercedes and now BMW have made the switch to AWD in their performance cars.

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greentrbo95gst Brigadier General 1231 Rep 4,106 Posts Drives: 21 M5 Comp Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Orange County iTrader: (6)	I agree. People that have been complaining about AWD have not driven the car properly. __________________ Current: 21 M5 Comp, 17 X5M, 06 M3, 14 Ferrari FF, Tesla Model S Performance.
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flanast First Lieutenant 149 Rep 373 Posts Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	Very surprised by the dry results. Found that I had lots of understeer in 4 wheel drive sport at VIR full course. Still need to test it with 2 wheel drive though.
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