440i Stall and Won't start

Alvin Mpower · 11-09-2020, 04:46 PM

Haven't find anything on this yet but I got out of gym today, and forgot I was in gear I started car and and let go of the clutch without putting it in neutral obviously the car creeped forward and stalled (done this couple times cause I'm still new to manual and usually park in neutral with hand brake up, I forgot to check the gear cause I was tired asf and this is the first time I gone to the gym since COVID). Then I attempted to start it up again and it wasn't starting up, it was attempting to start but failing to and threw an error message of automatic start malfunction, I tried couple times and same thing keeps happening. After that I turned electronics off and tried it again luckily it started, but there was some weird noise, sounds like air releasing when reving, I got home no problem trying to rev the engine couple times no issue and that weird sounds is still present, never heard that sound before when I rev. Anyone encountered this issue can let me know what's going on? Should I call my dealer and let them take a look?

obzen · 11-09-2020, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by horrizenashisland

Haven't find anything on this yet but I got out of gym today, and forgot I was in gear I started car and and let go of the clutch without putting it in neutral obviously the car creeped forward and stalled (done this couple times cause I'm still new to manual and usually park in neutral with hand brake up, I forgot to check the gear cause I was tired asf and this is the first time I gone to the gym since COVID). Then I attempted to start it up again and it wasn't starting up, it was attempting to start but failing to and threw an error message of automatic start malfunction, I tried couple times and same thing keeps happening. After that I turned electronics off and tried it again luckily it started, but there was some weird noise, sounds like air releasing when reving, I got home no problem trying to rev the engine couple times no issue and that weird sounds is still present, never heard that sound before when I rev. Anyone encountered this issue can let me know what's going on? Should I call my dealer and let them take a look?

If it's in warranty for sure take it to the stealer ship. Have you popped the hood for any visuals ?

Alvin Mpower · 11-09-2020, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by obzen

If it's in warranty for sure take it to the stealer ship. Have you popped the hood for any visuals ?

yeah its still under warranty, nothing wrong I see going under the hood. The swoosh sound sounds like an aftermarket intake, which is funny cause my car is stock.

im_an_alien · 11-09-2020, 06:32 PM

The dual mass flywheel has built in component protection which you may have tripped. I've gotten the flywheel component protection code just from spirited driving but it didn't prevent a start. It's a DME code as opposed to a CEL.

AspektUSA · 11-09-2020, 10:15 PM

Bad gas?

Zanity · 11-10-2020, 02:26 AM

go to the dealer and have it checked out for sure, but I wouldn't mention you may have caused it.

BWbimmer · 11-10-2020, 01:17 PM

I guess the starter gear didn't release and is now spinning with the flywheel. Not good. The starter is underneath the car, just listen if the noise comes from there.

BMWILUVU · 11-10-2020, 04:06 PM

It didn't throw any codes?

Alvin Mpower · 11-10-2020, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BWbimmer

I guess the starter gear didn't release and is now spinning with the flywheel. Not good. The starter is underneath the car, just listen if the noise comes from there.

Appreciate the unique response, I don't think there is noise coming from underneath, but there is some weird noise when accelerate that I never heard before.

BWbimmer · 11-11-2020, 02:42 AM

Can you hear the noise just when driving or as well when revving?
Can you produce some sound files?

im_an_alien · 11-11-2020, 08:53 AM

Def check for codes. Mine had this code stored...

Alvin Mpower · 11-11-2020, 07:39 PM

So I took the car to dealer today and they just did a software update since they can't reproduce the sound anymore. This is stupid cause now I have to go back to bimmercode to code everything all over again. On the other side, they give me an M340i loaner, that thing is a beast, makes me wanna switch.

jackstrath · 11-11-2020, 08:58 PM

So you have bummercode but never pulled the codes?
Did the dealer find any codes?
Can you still hear the sound or was it all in your head?

BWbimmer · 11-12-2020, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jackstrath

So you have bummercode but never pulled the codes?
Did the dealer find any codes?
Can you still hear the sound or was it all in your head?

Bimmercode doesn't pull the codes it's Bimmerlink which you have to buy separatly

11-09-2020, 04:46 PM	#1
Alvin Mpower Lieutenant 390 Rep 454 Posts Drives: 2016 M4 ZCP Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: RI iTrader: (0)	440i Stall and Won't start Haven't find anything on this yet but I got out of gym today, and forgot I was in gear I started car and and let go of the clutch without putting it in neutral obviously the car creeped forward and stalled (done this couple times cause I'm still new to manual and usually park in neutral with hand brake up, I forgot to check the gear cause I was tired asf and this is the first time I gone to the gym since COVID). Then I attempted to start it up again and it wasn't starting up, it was attempting to start but failing to and threw an error message of automatic start malfunction, I tried couple times and same thing keeps happening. After that I turned electronics off and tried it again luckily it started, but there was some weird noise, sounds like air releasing when reving, I got home no problem trying to rev the engine couple times no issue and that weird sounds is still present, never heard that sound before when I rev. Anyone encountered this issue can let me know what's going on? Should I call my dealer and let them take a look? Last edited by Alvin Mpower; 11-09-2020 at 05:07 PM..
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im_an_alien Lieutenant Colonel 1129 Rep 1,510 Posts Drives: 2016 340i Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Florida/NH iTrader: (0)	The dual mass flywheel has built in component protection which you may have tripped. I've gotten the flywheel component protection code just from spirited driving but it didn't prevent a start. It's a DME code as opposed to a CEL.
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AspektUSA Lieutenant 271 Rep 495 Posts Drives: 340i MSport/THP Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Denver iTrader: (0)	Bad gas?
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Zanity Major 731 Rep 1,045 Posts Drives: 428i Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: BC, Canada iTrader: (0)	go to the dealer and have it checked out for sure, but I wouldn't mention you may have caused it. __________________ Mods: Dinan Tuned, Intake, Catless DP
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BWbimmer Captain 277 Rep 833 Posts Drives: BMW F36, E36, E93 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Germany iTrader: (0) Garage List 08/2017 440i GC MPPSK [0.00]	I guess the starter gear didn't release and is now spinning with the flywheel. Not good. The starter is underneath the car, just listen if the noise comes from there. __________________ Such Fun If you finde any spelling mistakes in my posts you may keep them, no return required
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BMWILUVU Lieutenant Colonel 809 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 340ix Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: The Boibs iTrader: (0)	It didn't throw any codes?
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BWbimmer Captain 277 Rep 833 Posts Drives: BMW F36, E36, E93 Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Germany iTrader: (0) Garage List 08/2017 440i GC MPPSK [0.00]	Can you hear the noise just when driving or as well when revving? Can you produce some sound files? __________________ Such Fun If you finde any spelling mistakes in my posts you may keep them, no return required
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11-11-2020, 08:53 AM	#11
im_an_alien Lieutenant Colonel 1129 Rep 1,510 Posts Drives: 2016 340i Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Florida/NH iTrader: (0)	Def check for codes. Mine had this code stored... Attached Images
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11-11-2020, 07:39 PM	#12
Alvin Mpower Lieutenant 390 Rep 454 Posts Drives: 2016 M4 ZCP Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: RI iTrader: (0)	So I took the car to dealer today and they just did a software update since they can't reproduce the sound anymore. This is stupid cause now I have to go back to bimmercode to code everything all over again. On the other side, they give me an M340i loaner, that thing is a beast, makes me wanna switch.
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11-11-2020, 08:58 PM	#13
jackstrath Major 659 Rep 1,239 Posts Drives: 16' F31 340i & 03' Focus RS Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Aberdeen iTrader: (0)	So you have bummercode but never pulled the codes? Did the dealer find any codes? Can you still hear the sound or was it all in your head?
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