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      10-11-2020, 05:35 PM   #1
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M2CS parts on the M2C

Wanted to make a thread listing prices of parts if one to convert a Comp to a CS

Mirror Caps: $850
Rear Diffuser: $1,140
Front lip (non CS): $1,690
CS Spoiler: $650
CS Hood: $8,058
Center Console (from GTS) $3,250
Steering Wheel (DTM) $1,035
763M wheels: (gold) $4470

Total:$21,143

Could not find OEM hood or seats so i left them out but that's an idea. Just parts no install

M2 Comp MSRP: $58,900

M2CS MSRP $83,600

Comp+Parts listed (without seats, roof, suspension) $80,043
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M Drivers package is included as well, which is 2500
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Regarding the ''overpriced'' CS , i would say that the Competition is a bargain , not the CS overpriced. Lets see the next Gen M2 with a M engine from the beginning, you can see how the prices of the new G8x M3/4 jumped over the F8x M3/4 . That is the gap that the G87 M2 will fill . I would say that the F87 M2 Comp was not intended to be at the price point , but it couldn't be 10-15k more expensive than the F87 M2. I dont think is happening with the next M2.

Merino leather CS seats(front and rear) , original CS roof , and the adaptive suspension + the installation fees of those you and i mentioned = Might be more than 90-95k , and we haven't even added the CCB which as you know its cheaper to put from factory. how much would they sell those to me as spare parts? ( forgot the sport exhaust with the beautiful engraved M logo on the exhaust tips ) .

But again , you will have a modified M2 C , or better a wannabe M2 CS. - it still wont have the suspension , differential , steering , power delivery , and all those other small tunes that were made specifically on the CS.

You can't buy exclusivity - Its on the CoC .
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      10-12-2020, 05:12 AM   #4
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Wanted to make a thread listing prices of parts if one to convert a Comp to a CS
Mirror Caps: $850
Rear Diffuser: $1,140
Front lip (non CS): $1,690
CS Spoiler: $650
CS Hood: $8,058
Center Console (from GTS) $3,250
Steering Wheel (DTM) $1,035
763M wheels: (gold) $4470
Total:$21,143
Could not find OEM hood or seats so i left them out but that's an idea. Just parts no install
M2 Comp MSRP: $58,900
M2CS MSRP $83,600
Comp+Parts listed (without seats, roof, suspension) $80,043
On the one hand - seen from the customer's point of view: pretty pointless to do a 'conversion' - it ends up with an expensively modified M2 Competition.

On the other hand - seen from BMW's point of view: also ask yourself how much it really costs BMW to produce those items and do a recount. Needless to say that M Performance Parts are very profitable items for BMW.

Also don't forget to remove replaced items from the M2C price: if BMW fits a CS center console or CF hood, it won't first fit and subsequently trash the original item.

Furthermore: some M2C items are not available on the M2 CS (either omitted or conflicting items): see for example here.

Some extra food for thought:
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8k gets you from base blue brake to CCB.
From red bbk to CCB, it may be half the cost.
Let's distinguish 'cost for BMW' and 'cost for the M2 CS customer'.

When ordering an M2 CS you got a choice about (Brembo) brakes:
  • tick the M-CCB box and it will set you back $8K/€8K for the gold colored M-CCB (option code 2NK);
  • don't tick the M-CCB box, you get the red M Sport Brakes (code 2NH) as standard feature and the price will not change.
So no "half cost" favor to choose the M-CCB instead of the M Sport Brakes. On the M2 CS you cannot spec the original blue "regular" M2/M2C brakes (that allow fitting 18" wheels).

You could also approach it the other way around: on the M2 CS you get the red 2NH M Sport Brakes as standard feature (cost option on the M2C in Europe: silver 2NH). But of course, it's already included in the M2 CS base price. Seen from that perspective M-CCB on the M2 CS are actually the price of the 2NH + $8K/€8K (M-CCB factory installed). If you want to retrofit 2NH at a later stage, it will cost you even more: M-CCB (factory installed) + 2NH + cost of labor for the 2NH retrofit.

So, yeah, as regards the M2 CS customer wallet, M-CCB is even more costly for the M2 CS customer than the $8K/€8k option price: BMW gets the 2NH money from that customer as part of the M2 CS base price without installing 2NH onto the M2 CS of that customer.
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Wanted to make a thread listing prices of parts if one to convert a Comp to a CS

Mirror Caps: $850
Rear Diffuser: $1,140
Front lip (non CS): $1,690
CS Spoiler: $650
CS Hood: $8,058
Center Console (from GTS) $3,250
Steering Wheel (DTM) $1,035
763M wheels: (gold) $4470

Total:$21,143

Could not find OEM hood or seats so i left them out but that's an idea. Just parts no install

M2 Comp MSRP: $58,900

M2CS MSRP $83,600

Comp+Parts listed (without seats, roof, suspension) $80,043
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M Drivers package is included as well, which is 2500
So that gets us to $82,543, not including the adaptive suspension, seats, cf roof, tune, etc. And then there is the exclusivity delta. It's nice to have some real numbers when considering the value of the M2 CS. For those of us who like what comes with the M2 CS *and* have the coin, I hope we'll be excused for not getting caught up in the internet ramblings about the price. And this certainly puts the advice offered by Marc Rutten (shmarc150) in proper perspective.
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I posted this on another thread but it applies here..

It's not hard to spec out an M2C to be knocking on the door of an M2CS pretty quickly. My manual M2C list price was $74k, after the gold M763 wheels it was 80K. That didn't include the M performance suspension which was close to another $5k after install/alignment. Now you have a car within spitting distance of an M2CS price. It has nicer rear exhaust tips but that's about it. Everything else on the CS is just better/cooler/more special.

If you want a CS get a CS. Trying to make a Comp equivalent is a fools errand.
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      10-12-2020, 09:02 AM   #7
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On the one hand - seen from the customer's point of view: pretty pointless to do a 'conversion' - it ends up with an expensively modified M2 Competition.

On the other hand - seen from BMW's point of view: also ask yourself how much it really costs BMW to produce those items and do a recount. Needless to say that M Performance Parts are very profitable items for BMW.
Yes, great points.

Not sure what BMW's costs are, but rule of thumb is the cost of goods is around 30% of MSRP in manufacturing to end consumer. It varies wildly though and can be 80% in direct to consumer "low margin" applications.
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