Conti's to Michelins Done and Initial Verdict

moff · 07-23-2020, 10:22 AM

So, first drive out on the Michelin’s and to be frank I am pretty angry that BMW sold the X3M on the Conti’s. Not only are they appalling for wear (rears at 2mm after 4.5k miles) they tramline and are 'hard'.

The difference from the Conti's is not quite night and day difference as it was when i went from RFT’s to MP4S’s on my 440 but it’s not far off.

Ride is noticeably better, tramlining reduced and seems to be less skit when I come slowly out of T junctions but I need to try a few more to prove that.

Did a couple of launches to bed the tyres in and surprisingly no slip. Will bed them in for 30 miles or so and then try a few Dragy LC’s.

Obviously the suspension noise level is the same and that’s probably still my only and biggest gripe with the car.

knepsterd · 07-23-2020, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by moff

So, first drive out on the Michelin’s and to be frank I am pretty angry that BMW sold the X3M on the Conti’s. Not only are they appalling for wear (rears at 2mm after 4.5k miles) they tramline and are 'hard'.

The difference from the Conti's is not quite night and day difference as it was when i went from RFT’s to MP4S’s on my 440 but it’s not far off.

Ride is noticeably better, tramlining reduced and seems to be less skit when I come slowly out of T junctions but I need to try a few more to prove that.

Did a couple of launches to bed the tyres in and surprisingly no slip. Will bed them in for 30 miles or so and then try a few Dragy LC’s.

Obviously the suspension noise level is the same and that’s probably still my only and biggest gripe with the car.

Did you upgrade 265/295

Wills2 · 07-23-2020, 02:54 PM

I'm a fan of the CSC6 they are a really good tyre, after 6k I'm on 5mm all round, the PS4S have very soft sidewalls hence the ride improves but front end turn in suffers (badly) as does the overall balance the conti feels much more alert.

Each to his own but the conti 6 are good tyres in my experience and regularly beat the PS4S in tyre tests as below:

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm

https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm

RR-NYC · 07-23-2020, 10:42 PM

I was pretty annoyed when I saw mine had conti's while the regular X3M they had were Michelin. Luckily, I don't have a point of reference and I'm satisfied with their performance at the moment

Transfer · 07-24-2020, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by moff

So, first drive out on the Michelin’s and to be frank I am pretty angry that BMW sold the X3M on the Conti’s. Not only are they appalling for wear (rears at 2mm after 4.5k miles) they tramline and are 'hard'.

The difference from the Conti's is not quite night and day difference as it was when i went from RFT’s to MP4S’s on my 440 but it’s not far off.

Ride is noticeably better, tramlining reduced and seems to be less skit when I come slowly out of T junctions but I need to try a few more to prove that.

Did a couple of launches to bed the tyres in and surprisingly no slip. Will bed them in for 30 miles or so and then try a few Dragy LC’s.

Obviously the suspension noise level is the same and that’s probably still my only and biggest gripe with the car.

Yup. PS4S is a remarkable tire.

mjrennie · 07-24-2020, 01:57 AM

Made all the difference when I changed in our M3 a few years ago. Night and day difference. Would not be surprised if it makes the same difference on our X4MC come the time.

heavyD^2 · 07-24-2020, 08:01 AM

Not a fan of these Continentals as they wear ridiculously fast. I think I will get less mileage out of these than a set of Sport Cup 2 tires.

JamRWS6 · 07-24-2020, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by moff

So, first drive out on the Michelin's and to be frank I am pretty angry that BMW sold the X3M on the Conti's. Not only are they appalling for wear (rears at 2mm after 4.5k miles) they tramline and are 'hard'.

The difference from the Conti's is not quite night and day difference as it was when i went from RFT's to MP4S's on my 440 but it's not far off.

Ride is noticeably better, tramlining reduced and seems to be less skit when I come slowly out of T junctions but I need to try a few more to prove that.

Did a couple of launches to bed the tyres in and surprisingly no slip. Will bed them in for 30 miles or so and then try a few Dragy LC's.

Obviously the suspension noise level is the same and that's probably still my only and biggest gripe with the car.

How do you drive to only get 4.5K out of these? There are R compounds that will last longer than that with sane driving on public roads.

moff · 07-25-2020, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JamRWS6

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Originally Posted by moff

So, first drive out on the Michelin's and to be frank I am pretty angry that BMW sold the X3M on the Conti's. Not only are they appalling for wear (rears at 2mm after 4.5k miles) they tramline and are 'hard'.

The difference from the Conti's is not quite night and day difference as it was when i went from RFT's to MP4S's on my 440 but it's not far off.

Ride is noticeably better, tramlining reduced and seems to be less skit when I come slowly out of T junctions but I need to try a few more to prove that.

Did a couple of launches to bed the tyres in and surprisingly no slip. Will bed them in for 30 miles or so and then try a few Dragy LC's.

Obviously the suspension noise level is the same and that's probably still my only and biggest gripe with the car.

How do you drive to only get 4.5K out of these? There are R compounds that will last longer than that with sane driving on public roads.

Genuinely haven't driven like an idiot. Fronts had 5mm on when I changed them, rears on 2mm.

Love the MP4S's though, everything so far is better.

Admiral · 07-25-2020, 02:39 AM

I have Michelin Latitudes RFT on 20" that were factory fitted, very pleased with them so far, car has now done 7K miles and tyre depth is between 6mm and 7mm.

SuperSport · 07-26-2020, 12:25 AM

Yeah, not fan of the Conti's.. Thinking of putting Michelin’s on now and toss the Conti's back on for the lease turn in.

elisiX · 07-26-2020, 05:17 AM

I was not expecting this. Checked out my new car today ahead of delivery this week and I was expecting PS4S.

I suppose in some way it's good to hear you guys are only getting 5k miles out of it, as it means it won't be long before I replace them with PS4S anyway.

allinon72 · 07-26-2020, 08:22 AM

The Conti's might be a large part in why every car reviewer says the ride is harsh. The PS4's ride great on just about every vehicle.

Sebap3 · 07-26-2020, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by allinon72

The Conti's might be a large part in why every car reviewer says the ride is harsh. The PS4's ride great on just about every vehicle.

From what I seen, just about every review car came with Michelin’s.

07-23-2020, 10:22 AM	#1
moff Colonel 1364 Rep 2,495 Posts Drives: X4M Competition Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nottingham GB iTrader: (0)	Conti's to Michelins Done and Initial Verdict So, first drive out on the Michelin’s and to be frank I am pretty angry that BMW sold the X3M on the Conti’s. Not only are they appalling for wear (rears at 2mm after 4.5k miles) they tramline and are 'hard'. The difference from the Conti's is not quite night and day difference as it was when i went from RFT’s to MP4S’s on my 440 but it’s not far off. Ride is noticeably better, tramlining reduced and seems to be less skit when I come slowly out of T junctions but I need to try a few more to prove that. Did a couple of launches to bed the tyres in and surprisingly no slip. Will bed them in for 30 miles or so and then try a few Dragy LC’s. Obviously the suspension noise level is the same and that’s probably still my only and biggest gripe with the car. __________________ Arrived! 2022 X4M Competition, SPY + Black Merino Gone: 2019 X3M Competition, Toronto Red, Adelaide Grey.
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07-23-2020, 02:54 PM	#3
Wills2 Barge driver 8692 Rep 12,437 Posts Drives: 730d Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I'm a fan of the CSC6 they are a really good tyre, after 6k I'm on 5mm all round, the PS4S have very soft sidewalls hence the ride improves but front end turn in suffers (badly) as does the overall balance the conti feels much more alert. Each to his own but the conti 6 are good tyres in my experience and regularly beat the PS4S in tyre tests as below: https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm https://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Articl...-Tyre-Test.htm __________________ 730d/Z4C
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07-23-2020, 10:42 PM	#4
RR-NYC Captain 154 Rep 663 Posts Drives: 2020 X3MC Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: NYC / Miami Beach iTrader: (0)	I was pretty annoyed when I saw mine had conti's while the regular X3M they had were Michelin. Luckily, I don't have a point of reference and I'm satisfied with their performance at the moment
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07-24-2020, 01:57 AM	#6
mjrennie Private First Class 62 Rep 132 Posts Drives: X4M Competition Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Coventry iTrader: (0)	Made all the difference when I changed in our M3 a few years ago. Night and day difference. Would not be surprised if it makes the same difference on our X4MC come the time.
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07-24-2020, 08:01 AM	#7
heavyD^2 Colonel 3689 Rep 2,956 Posts Drives: X3M Competition Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Too close to Santa iTrader: (0)	Not a fan of these Continentals as they wear ridiculously fast. I think I will get less mileage out of these than a set of Sport Cup 2 tires.
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07-25-2020, 02:39 AM	#10
Admiral Lieutenant 776 Rep 593 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X3 2.0D X Line G01 Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Cymru UK iTrader: (0)	I have Michelin Latitudes RFT on 20" that were factory fitted, very pleased with them so far, car has now done 7K miles and tyre depth is between 6mm and 7mm.
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07-26-2020, 12:25 AM	#11
SuperSport Lieutenant 48 Rep 456 Posts Drives: '20 X3MC, '16 Cayenne S Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Redondo Beach, CA iTrader: (5) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	Yeah, not fan of the Conti's.. Thinking of putting Michelin’s on now and toss the Conti's back on for the lease turn in. __________________ '20 X3MC -Bm3 Stg1 91, dragy 11.10@124.91 (0-60 3.20),'16 Cayenne S - Sold,
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07-26-2020, 05:17 AM	#12
elisiX Major 687 Rep 1,328 Posts Drives: '20 X3M Competition Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	I was not expecting this. Checked out my new car today ahead of delivery this week and I was expecting PS4S. I suppose in some way it's good to hear you guys are only getting 5k miles out of it, as it means it won't be long before I replace them with PS4S anyway. __________________ 2020 BMW X3M Competition ///M - ALPINE WHITE / SAKHIR ORANGE Past: 18' BMW M3CS \| 18' BMW X5M \| '17 BMW M3 Competition \| '16 Mercedes GLC250 \| '16 BMW X5M \| '15 BMW X5 M50d \| '14 Audi SQ5
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07-26-2020, 08:22 AM	#13
allinon72 Brigadier General 4956 Rep 3,825 Posts Drives: 20' M2C, 23' X1 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Indianapolis, IN iTrader: (2)	The Conti's might be a large part in why every car reviewer says the ride is harsh. The PS4's ride great on just about every vehicle.
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