[fgoody]

Does anyone know if the suspension settings are the exact same for both model years ? Hoping the comfort setting magically changed...

[KHATTI]

Originally Posted by fgoody

Does anyone know if the suspension settings are the exact same for both model years ? Hoping the comfort setting magically changed...

Ive heard rumors its been re-tuned. This cars.com advert states "new settings for suspension"

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...5446/overview/

[spta97]

Interesting. I wonder if that update will be available for 2020 models?

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by KHATTI

Ive heard rumors its been re-tuned. This cars.com advert states "new settings for suspension"

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...5446/overview/

That can also be read as a reference to the competition package option rather than a new set of settings per se.

What we need is the same as we had with F80 forum on here a list of istep updates as that was invaluable in upgrading the car through its life with each firm wear iteration, as they made some major changes to power delivery and damping. (however if it's the springs then that won't really make a difference) and the F80 never got softer during its life time as an example...

[elisiX]

This would be nice to see.

Is it true that the MSS kit people have been installing improves the ride?

[knepsterd]

Originally Posted by elisiX

This would be nice to see.

Is it true that the MSS kit people have been installing improves the ride?

I still don't understand the issue with the oem suspension. My wife had two disc surgeries and when she is a passenger and we drive city and highway for hours she doesn't complain. She does complain about the ASD though

[elisiX]

Originally Posted by knepsterd

I still don't understand the issue with the oem suspension. My wife had two disc surgeries and when she is a passenger and we drive city and highway for hours she doesn't complain. She does complain about the ASD though

I currently drive an M3 CS and drove the X3M today (I'm considering one), and I can say without a doubt that the X3M ride is harsher than the M3 CS.

I've also owned the M3 Competition and that was horrible - the CS improves on the ride considerably. This shouldn't be understated - but the X3M is hard.

If I was to try and compare I'd say that the X3M in comfort is closer to the M3 CS in Sport Plus suspension. The X3M is still very compliant though.

I'll probably be going ahead with the X3M tomorrow as I just love it in many different aspects, but any improvement to the ride would be welcome.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by elisiX

This would be nice to see.

Is it true that the MSS kit people have been installing improves the ride?

Yes, MSS Urban kit improves the ride very significantly. Sport Plus on MSS is like Comfort on stock springs. Wider tires (265/295) help, too.

[elisiX]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Yes, MSS Urban kit improves the ride very significantly. Sport Plus on MSS is like Comfort on stock springs. Wider tires (265/295) help, too.

Wow thanks for confirming.

Sounds like a must have mod!

[Carmicro]

Originally Posted by Wills2

That can also be read as a reference to the competition package option rather than a new set of settings per se.

What we need is the same as we had with F80 forum on here a list of istep updates as that was invaluable in upgrading the car through its life with each firm wear iteration, as they made some major changes to power delivery and damping. (however if it's the springs then that won't really make a difference) and the F80 never got softer during its life time as an example...

I agree that’s they way I see it.

[ACiociF80]

Originally Posted by elisiX

I currently drive an M3 CS and drove the X3M today (I'm considering one), and I can say without a doubt that the X3M ride is harsher than the M3 CS.

I've also owned the M3 Competition and that was horrible - the CS improves on the ride considerably. This shouldn't be understated - but the X3M is hard.

If I was to try and compare I'd say that the X3M in comfort is closer to the M3 CS in Sport Plus suspension. The X3M is still very compliant though.

I'll probably be going ahead with the X3M tomorrow as I just love it in many different aspects, but any improvement to the ride would be welcome.

For what it’s worth, I have a 21 X3M and had at 2017 M3 Comp. In comfort mode the X3M appears on par(maybe a little softer) than the M3. In sport plus, it’s definitely harsher.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by ACiociF80

For what it’s worth, I have a 21 X3M and had at 2017 M3 Comp. In comfort mode the X3M appears on par(maybe a little softer) than the M3. In sport plus, it’s definitely harsher.

Congrats on your 2021 F97. Post some pictures, man!

[Carmicro]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Yes, MSS Urban kit improves the ride very significantly. Sport Plus on MSS is like Comfort on stock springs. Wider tires (265/295) help, too.

What’s the cornering/body roll like with softer springs ?

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by Carmicro

What’s the cornering/body roll like with softer springs ?

It also depends how much you lower your car. It still corners really well, maybe tiny bit more body roll but it's difficult to measure.

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by elisiX

I currently drive an M3 CS and drove the X3M today (I'm considering one), and I can say without a doubt that the X3M ride is harsher than the M3 CS.

I've also owned the M3 Competition and that was horrible - the CS improves on the ride considerably. This shouldn't be understated - but the X3M is hard.

If I was to try and compare I'd say that the X3M in comfort is closer to the M3 CS in Sport Plus suspension. The X3M is still very compliant though.

I'll probably be going ahead with the X3M tomorrow as I just love it in many different aspects, but any improvement to the ride would be welcome.

I haven't been in an M3 CS but there has got to be something up here. Like the X3M tires were set at 50 PSI or something. Could there be an issue with certain vehicles and not others?

As myself and several others have repeated, I find my X3MC quite comfortable and it got better past 2000 miles on the clock. The suspension can be a little busy but both wife and I never find it to be harsh or jarring. I click the suspension into sport+ any time I'm driving fast or cornering aggressively and even that is fine IMO.

[Carmicro]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

It also depends how much you lower your car. It still corners really well, maybe tiny bit more body roll but it's difficult to measure.

I hear ya. It would probably be very similar due to lower center of gravity will compensate. I hit a corner (Uk roads) at around 130mph and notice roll getting progressively heavy but surprisingly not bad for a SUV.

[itsmabs]

This gets rehashed all the time. A fair amount of people think the suspension isn't great, a fair amount love it. I don't think it's something you could convince either side about, as it's their past experience with other cars. My take is it's the dampening that is the problem, it bounces way more than any sports car I've owned. That said it doesn't crash as hard over potholes, say the way a m4 does. The engine is a blast though, and I look forward to the MSS springs helping out. Space, performance, and price make it a winner. Though if out of the factory the seats where a touch more comfortable and it bounced less it would be a absolute dream car.

[sayemthree]

the suspension is fine IMO. if you want it softer get a Merc or Lexus

[elisiX]

Originally Posted by Transfer

I haven't been in an M3 CS but there has got to be something up here. Like the X3M tires were set at 50 PSI or something. Could there be an issue with certain vehicles and not others?

As myself and several others have repeated, I find my X3MC quite comfortable and it got better past 2000 miles on the clock. The suspension can be a little busy but both wife and I never find it to be harsh or jarring. I click the suspension into sport+ any time I'm driving fast or cornering aggressively and even that is fine IMO.

The M3 CS has;

19/20 staggered setup
Carbon bonnet
Carbon ceramic brakes (in my case)
Remapped dampers
Base M3 springs (not comp)
Wider tires

All of these things combined make the CS infinitely more comfortable and compliant than the M3 Competition I had prior.

As a CS owner and someone who spent an hour or so driving the X3M on all manner of roads yesterday, I stand by my comment that the X3M is a harder ride than the CS.

It was immediately noticeable, though it sounds like the MSS kit dials things back just enough to make it a complete non issue, which I'm really happy to hear.

[ACiociF80]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Congrats on your 2021 F97. Post some pictures, man!

Sorry for the delay. Here ya go.

[NJ-X3MGuy]

Exactly the color combo I order. I am a few months behind you. Congrats she's a beauty!

[MrItaly]

Originally Posted by elisiX

This would be nice to see.

Is it true that the MSS kit people have been installing improves the ride?

Significantly if your asphalt is subpar. If you live on a racetrack with perfect asphalt, however, it might be considered a downgrade.