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      05-30-2019, 06:09 PM   #1
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New Engine required...

Figured I'd start a new thread for this one..

Brought my car in with the "Drivetrain Malfunction" warning and rough idle. Two days later they tell me I'm going to need a completely new engine! Holy hell...

The car had 2,600 miles on it. I haven't gotten the full report of what they found yet.

So, what do y'all think I should do? Try and get them to buy the car back and get me a new one? Won't having an engine replacement hurt my resale value? Plus who knows what other issues could stem from such a major repair job. It would suck to order a new one too and miss the entire summer waiting for a new car. Either way what a major bummer.
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Buyback depends on your State lemon law. Super unlikely unless car is down for the requisite period (some states 30-45 days).

It won't impact resale, and if it does, very very little.

If repair is by a dealer it's warrantied completely. So if they screw up, it's covered.

Engine replacements are not overly complicated on these cars, they are modular from the factory. Chances of issues following repair really low.

Does it suck, yeah, but at least you have a warranty and aren't getting a fight from them.

Don't expect them or BMWNA wanting to do anything more for you than give you a loaner. This sounds like a clean cut warranty issue and repair, although for a big component.
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What caused it? That is pretty scary with such low miles. Did you spin the bearing?
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uhhh no.

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Buyback depends on your State lemon law. Super unlikely unless car is down for the requisite period (some states 30-45 days).

It won't impact resale, and if it does, very very little.

If repair is by a dealer it's warranties completely. So if they screw up, it's covered.

Engine replacements are not overly complicated on these cars, they are modular from the factory. Chances of issues following repair really low.

Does it suck, yeah, but at least you have a warranty and aren't getting a fight from them.
If you had a choice between two late model low mileage identical spec cars, would you choose the one with the replacement engine? Ummm.... No. I absolutely would try and make BMW buy back the car and work some kind of deal on a new replacement car. I'd even spent a couple of grand on an attorney to force it.
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Buyback depends on your State lemon law. Super unlikely unless car is down for the requisite period (some states 30-45 days).

It won't impact resale, and if it does, very very little.

If repair is by a dealer it's warranties completely. So if they screw up, it's covered.

Engine replacements are not overly complicated on these cars, they are modular from the factory. Chances of issues following repair really low.

Does it suck, yeah, but at least you have a warranty and aren't getting a fight from them.
If you had a choice between two late model low mileage identical spec cars, would you choose the one with the replacement engine? Ummm.... No. I absolutely would try and make BMW buy back the car and work some kind of deal on a new replacement car. I'd even spent a couple of grand on an attorney to force it.
That's exactly what my buddies say...
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Can't tell you what to do as every ones situation is different. I can however tell you what I'd do; start looking into local laws and ask BMW what my options are. They may offer you a buyback or engine swap. Sorry OP. There have been a few other members that have reported the drive train malfunction as well. If it's a spun crank hub...
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What caused it? That is pretty scary with such low miles. Did you spin the bearing?
They didn't give me details yet. Said he'll send me the report tomorrow.
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What caused it? That is pretty scary with such low miles. Did you spin the bearing?
They didn't give me details yet. Said he'll send me the report tomorrow.
I think I've seen an M2c failed S55 report here from someone in the UK as well prior. Will be interested in the report as well.
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Buyback depends on your State lemon law. Super unlikely unless car is down for the requisite period (some states 30-45 days).

It won't impact resale, and if it does, very very little.

If repair is by a dealer it's warranties completely. So if they screw up, it's covered.

Engine replacements are not overly complicated on these cars, they are modular from the factory. Chances of issues following repair really low.

Does it suck, yeah, but at least you have a warranty and aren't getting a fight from them.
If you had a choice between two late model low mileage identical spec cars, would you choose the one with the replacement engine? Ummm.... No. I absolutely would try and make BMW buy back the car and work some kind of deal on a new replacement car. I'd even spent a couple of grand on an attorney to force it.
Identical spec and identical price? I'd go with the engine replacement. Less miles on the engine and you know the issue has been addressed, at least mostly. But my approach doesn't have to be yours. But talk to anyone in the car business, that doesn't matter at all on trade in value. May have some marginal resale value private party, but we are talking 1-3%. Enthusiasts may care, the average car buyer gives zero shit about past recalls including full engine replacements.
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I think I've seen an M2c failed S55 report here from someone in the UK as well prior. Will be interested in the report as well.
If I remember correctly he got a brand new car as a replacement.
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Sorry to hear about your mishap, OP. I hope everything works out for you!
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Obviously the details are important but I would want a new car with engine failure at such low mileage. What state are you from? Def would want BMW to buy the car back and order new
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From what I understand, the lemon law comes into play after the car is still broken after a reasonable number of attempts at fixing the same problem. After that you need to notify the manufacturer and give them one last chance to fix the vehicle. Then if it's still not fixed, you go through the manufacturer's arbitration program. After all that is unsatisfactory, then you can sue in court.

Best to let the warranty and BMW handle it the best they can for now.
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God.. I was expecting this motor to be built Ford tough, now I'm never going to tune it..

It's way more complicated than the N55 and apparently some units are susceptible to early failure..
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With this early story, I would probably allow them to repair it if they offer a long term warranty with the fix (well past the 4 year... probably try to get it to 8 -10 years if possible).

I know we want our cars to be pristine and reliable, but we’re also asking them to run high power output with ever increasing technology. A really big ask to have both in my mind. I had a 135i 6MT replaced at something like 12k miles because of a second gear grind. I couldn’t tell the difference after the repair from when new. Keep us posted, and I encourage you to keep an open mind as well. Express your disappointment but allow BMW a chance to make things whole.
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Buyback depends on your State lemon law. Super unlikely unless car is down for the requisite period (some states 30-45 days).

It won't impact resale, and if it does, very very little.

If repair is by a dealer it's warrantied completely. So if they screw up, it's covered.

Engine replacements are not overly complicated on these cars, they are modular from the factory. Chances of issues following repair really low.

Does it suck, yeah, but at least you have a warranty and aren't getting a fight from them.

Don't expect them or BMWNA wanting to do anything more for you than give you a loaner. This sounds like a clean cut warranty issue and repair, although for a big component.
Completely agree. Trade it in three years later, no one will care. Certainly no dealer. Check your lemon laws, this would not qualify unless the motor switch takes over a month.
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Probably crank hub. Seems to exhibit the bathtub curve where if it doesn’t happen to you early, the engine is more likely fine (aside from tuning).

If I get one, I’m probably not tuning it under 20k miles. Do not want a situation where the engine fails due to manufacturing defect and immediately out of warranty.
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If I remember correctly he got a brand new car as a replacement.
A friend of mine (on here too) had spun-hub - no major damage to the engine - BMW repaired it under warranty then he took it Litchfield for their spun hub remedy and CBE Akra and their 540/500 stage 1 tune.

Drove it last weekend very briefly and I can say 1st hand his s55 motor is in the rudest of health
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Ask them if an S58 will fit.

j/k

This sucks off course but everything will be fine.

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I think I've seen an M2c failed S55 report here from someone in the UK as well prior. Will be interested in the report as well.
That was me, mine failed a crank journal bearing. They gave me a new car.
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That was me, mine failed a crank journal bearing. They gave me a new car.
I hope that's what they do for the OP as well, but if not, I would expect that an engine swap can be completed without too much long-term concern.

I too, would be pissed, of course - keep us updated!
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Figured I'd start a new thread for this one..

Brought my car in with the "Drivetrain Malfunction" warning and rough idle. Two days later they tell me I'm going to need a completely new engine! Holy hell...

The car had 2,600 miles on it. I haven't gotten the full report of what they found yet.

So, what do y'all think I should do? Try and get them to buy the car back and get me a new one? Won't having an engine replacement hurt my resale value? Plus who knows what other issues could stem from such a major repair job. It would suck to order a new one too and miss the entire summer waiting for a new car. Either way what a major bummer.
Can't wait to hear what the issue is.
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