[itsglen]

Has to be more to this, I'm assuming a coincidence but i don't understand the posted logs

Originally Posted by Beek

Did anyone else see this over on the FB B58 Enthusiat's group? "Well threw on BM3 stage 2 tune was running for about 4 days now. whole bottom end blew out"

Dude launched his motor.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/b58e...?ref=bookmarks

[itsglen]

From the original post

Originally Posted by Beek

Here is a log the dude posted, said it's from yesterday.

[sspade]

Sub'd

[MTWO]

If you read the posts they say no chance just a canned tune caused whatever that guy had happen. Even that dude says he isn’t blaming bm3. I bet he did something with meth maybe turned shit up or just out there to mess up and talk shit hard on bm3. They even had an email posted from that guy from like 5 days ago asking to run meth but now suddenly claiming he wasn’t. Sounds fishy

[itsglen]

Originally Posted by MTWO

If you read the posts they say no chance just a canned tune caused whatever that guy had happen. Even that dude says he isn’t blaming bm3. I bet he did something with meth maybe turned shit up or just out there to mess up and talk shit hard on bm3. They even had an email posted from that guy from like 5 days ago asking to run meth but now suddenly claiming he wasn’t. Sounds fishy

I'm just curious with what actually went down, I know you are about as far from neutral when it comes to BM3 as anyone could be which is fine.

I sincerely hope in time objective information will bubble up and we don't spend time speculating. People that support BM3 will say to use your words this guy did this to "talk shit hard on bm3" people that are in a different camp will take this as an opportunity to pounce which isn't cool.

And people like me who don't care either way but are curious as to what the root cause was will wait for some real word info. As an engineer this stuff intrigues me.

Personally I don't think this happened in a vacuum but there I go speculating

[itsglen]

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Originally Posted by Beek

Actually he said he was not running meth when the motor went and said later he had not run meth in two month's but was planning to configure it this coming weekend, car has 56K on it so who knows how much of that was on meth?

[grassy_91]

Sub’d. If he added meth and didn’t listen to what bm3 advised, he had it coming especially if he had way too much spraying. Even when I started to run very little e85 when I had a jb4 I posted logs for bms to look at and make sure everything was good.

[MaximusJ]

No meth implicated at the time of the incident; but he says he used jb4,intake, dp and meth before (for 20k he says). But at the time of the incident, he had just a DP, intake and bm3; thing is he left his JB4 hooked up on map 0 at the time of the flash. He also states that he's been told by bm that it was ok to leave it on as long as its on map0.

He says that everything worked fine for two days; and logs are looking good. Then accelerated from 50+; not at WOT and then it happened.

Cant wait to find more details as well.

[MaximusJ]

And oh... he's out of warranty.

[sspade]

Interested to hear the outcome although I have absolutely zero sympathy for the deceased. Especially when he overdosed on Meth.

Gotta pay to play!

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by itsglen

From the original post

15psi doesn't blow up motor" GTFO most of you bunch of naive silly rabbits that don't even know how to understand a simple log and want to throw map7 with meth just because A person says so lol

[grassy_91]

Originally Posted by FSociety

You yourself have a post of how a few of your own cars were reacting even when jb4 was on map0 and still interfering so imagine if a customer throws map7 on any flash without checking/adjusting other settings thats called for "BEF"



15psi doesn't blow up motor" GTFO most of you bunch of naive silly rabbits that don't even know how to understand a simple log and want to throw map7 with meth just because A person says so lol

I can attest that on map7 with meth I would occasionally have spark blowout around 5-6k rpm and it sounded like backfires. Mission was talking about my car because when we left the jb4 on and added the tune, it screwed with everything. Once we took the jb4 off everything ran perfect! I’m currently at 22.8 psi and have had no problems. Something isn’t right here

[track.n.trail]

Just want to clarify that we don't even know if he actually "blew out his bottom end" yet. Could be something like an oil line letting go.

Speculation isn't that useful until the guy with the issue gets his car torn apart to see what actually happened.

[B58]

Any updates on this?

[track.n.trail]

Nope, I've been checking the FB thread all day

[Fuel-It!]

I saw the log and story and it seems a little fishy to me too. The log shows a 15psi map, that isn't really much more boost than stock?

I have been testing the MHD B58 flashing system making a back end for our pure stage2 turbo and so far what we can do on the flash side has been awesome. Combined with JB4 to run our new chargepipe port injection kit for extra fuel pressure when using E50+ this is going to be the winning combination I think.

[B58]

Originally Posted by Fuel-It!

I saw the log and story and it seems a little fishy to me too. The log shows a 15psi map, that isn't really much more boost than stock?

I have been testing the MHD B58 flashing system making a back end for our pure stage2 turbo and so far what we can do on the flash side has been awesome. Combined with JB4 to run our new chargepipe port injection kit for extra fuel pressure when using E50+ this is going to be the winning combination I think.

I must agree, MHD back end paired with Jb4 is going to be a killer combo I have no doubts a stock turbo will put down 500whp with meth. I’m on the back end flash beta and so far it’s great, but definitely needs some tweaking.

If I had to guess his engine probably blew from knock or something dangerous that simply blows engines....

[track.n.trail]

Some pictures that were added to the FB group. Not from the OP however

[F3085258]

@Fuel-It!, When will you be releasing your fuel up grade for PS2?

[E90ROXS]

Maybe it was the meth that he over sprayed. There are 100+ b58 out there with BM3 tune. Only time can tell. Honestly it's making me a bit skeptic of getting BM3 tune or any tune at this moment because it's still in its infancy stage.

[G.Newt]

Originally Posted by dotfiles

Some pictures that were added to the FB group. Not from the OP however

He bent a rod and it shot out of the motor. That's usually caused by high heat or shot rod bearings. Something isn't right. 15psi isn't doing that unless he was starving the motor of fuel or else, but his AFR from his logs didn't seem abnormally lean. Hmmmmm

[MTWO]

Originally Posted by G.Newt

He bent a rod and it shot out of the motor. That's usually caused by high heat or shot rod bearings. Something isn't right. 15psi isn't doing that unless he was starving the motor of fuel or else, but his AFR from his logs didn't seem abnormally lean. Hmmmmm

+100 literally zero chance that rod cracked with 15psi