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      03-16-2019, 01:52 AM   #1
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40i owners step in pls

Hello all, been a long time lurker and this is actually my first thread!

So I have test drove both 40i and 50i, I did the v8 first. While for my experience the 40i is doing fine with me, my wife and a sales guy on board, I wonder if that can be said when it is filled with 5 people and their belongings on board? The v8 is definitely powerful and I feel it drives even more buttery smooth but the price difference is very noticeable between the two.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
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Hello all, been a long time lurker and this is actually my first thread!

So I have test drove both 40i and 50i, I did the v8 first. While for my experience the 40i is doing fine with me, my wife and a sales guy on board, I wonder if that can be said when it is filled with 5 people and their belongings on board? The v8 is definitely powerful and I feel it drives even more buttery smooth but the price difference is very noticeable between the two.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts!
I will get mine in the next few days. It can tow 7500 lbs so it should be able to move just fine with 1000 lbs of people and gear.
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      03-16-2019, 06:31 AM   #3
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I love my 40i. Haven't used launch control yet or pushed it over 4500 rpm yet(still breakin her in) But the car feels like it has plenty of power. If I couldve convinced myself and my wife to soar past the 6 figure mark, I'd own the 50i.
I just watched a video on Instagram of a 40i being track tested for steering/accelerating/braking in UAE. All I have to say is WOW! These huge things can move with the inline 6. I wish I could share it but have figured out how to do that yet. You can check out @bmwdreamauh page and see it.
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      03-16-2019, 08:37 AM   #4
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Good find.



hopefully that video works.

This was next door to me, and I didn't even know they were doing this. Pisser. That's some get up and go for a jumbo SUV, much less the smaller 40i engine.
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      03-16-2019, 12:37 PM   #5
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The video is a great find! Looks like 40i would not be underpowered, love those input from personal experiences, too.
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I ordered the 40i like most here without driving it but I am not worried about it being under powered. It kills me when I see reviews or people in this forum questioning if a 7,500lb 3 row suv that does 0-60 MPH in 5.8 sec will have enough power. I have a 450 HP Escalade with a V8 that does 0-60 in the same time as the 40i. The base Range Rover with the super charged v6 with 380 HP does 0-60 in 7 sec, now that is under powered. BMW horses are Superior.

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Pardon the interloping from a mere x5 40i owner (although I will likely soon get an x7 also - it’s a sickness, I guess), but I think the x7 40i will be quicker to 60 than 5.8 seconds in the real world. Car and Driver instrument tested the x5 40i to sixty in 4.9 seconds. The am sure they have perfect launches but there is no reasonable way the x7 40i can be thought of underpowered.

Of course the v8 will have more pull especially in the 30 to 80mph highway ramp situation. If that matters, then the v8 would better suit.

We can at least appreciate that nowadays the smaller engine version of an suv gets all the good cosmetic bits. Much better than the bad old days (I’m thinking about the merc GL specifically) when the v6 looked so cheap with too much grey cladding and 18 or 17 inch wheel choices.
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Lovin' my 40i! I have not felt like I need more.
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I'd rather invest the additional $$ in options. I'm confident that the 40i will have plenty of power to handle my stop&go commute - LOL!
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Rationalization for the 40i is like a Camaro or Mustang owner with a V6. Ripped off 850 miles today in X5 50i across the Midwest and Plains states and would never bat an eye at ordering up the V8 - all I have owned my Bimmers. Once you twin turbo, 8 cyl you never go back. There is a whole thread on this in X5 board. 80k and up better have some whoop ass power through the range. Fuck to 60, in the V8 60 happens in a blink and pulls hard through 120.
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Rationalization for the 40i is like a Camaro or Mustang owner with a V6.
I doubt the Mustang was designed to haul 7 people though..

On the X5, I see why the V8 is desired. However, when it comes to performance and agility, the bigger the vehicle gets, the more complicated it becomes.

At the size of the X7, you are getting very close to the point (if you aren't already there) where the driving dynamics aren't necessarily determined by power but by the mass and size of a vehicle.

I know for sure that if "fun to drive" and "performance" would be my main focus on a vehicle, the X7 would not even be on my list. I care more about comfort, technology and safety. Safety is where the mass of this vehicle works for you and not against..
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I have the same hot v 8 cylinder in my 750i. It’s a great engine, but it’s not the second coming. Let’s please not get too hyperbolic and also appreciate that these are all great machines.
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Rationalization for the 40i is like a Camaro or Mustang owner with a V6. Ripped off 850 miles today in X5 50i across the Midwest and Plains states and would never bat an eye at ordering up the V8 - all I have owned my Bimmers. Once you twin turbo, 8 cyl you never go back. There is a whole thread on this in X5 board. 80k and up better have some whoop ass power through the range. Fuck to 60, in the V8 60 happens in a blink and pulls hard through 120.
Yeah no it's not. When you buy a mustang it's to drive fast and/or "look cool". When you buy an X7 it's to haul your kids or their grandparents around. I bought my X6 V8 because it was a rocket ship and night and day compared to the 6. The power gap was huge and the dynamics were worth the $$$. My wife will be driving the X7, the power gap has closed, and it will have 2 car seats. The V8 is literally a waste of money, both in up front and operating costs. I'll spend my money on extended leather.

I've owned a BMW V8 and I'll never go back. It was fun as hell but burned as much oil as gas and I doubt it made it much past warranty expiration before needing replacement.

You could also ask of yourself "well why did I buy a 50i and not an M?"
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Yeah no it's not. When you buy a mustang it's to drive fast and/or "look cool". When you buy an X7 it's to haul your kids or their grandparents around. I bought my X6 V8 because it was a rocket ship and night and day compared to the 6. The power gap was huge and the dynamics were worth the $$$. My wife will be driving the X7, the power gap has closed, and it will have 2 car seats. The V8 is literally a waste of money, both in up front and operating costs. I'll spend my money on extended leather.

I've owned a BMW V8 and I'll never go back. It was fun as hell but burned as much oil as gas and I doubt it made it much past warranty expiration before needing replacement.

You could also ask of yourself "well why did I buy a 50i and not an M?"
Exactly, well put. I put the 50i upgrade money on options. Much more worth it IMO.
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You could also ask of yourself "well why did I buy a 50i and not an M?"
True... and the pseudo-version of that is that the X7 M50i will be sold in August. Just wait 5 months, and your 50i will have 74 more horsepower. (530hp)
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You could also ask of yourself "well why did I buy a 50i and not an M?"
True... and the pseudo-version of that is that the X7 M50i will be sold in August. Just wait 5 months, and your 50i will have 74 more horsepower. (530hp)
We just got our x7 40i yesterday and it has plenty of power. The engine is super smooth and linear. Not a hint of turbo lag. For the price difference between the v8 I'd use the money to get a pre owned sports car of some type if i want to go sports car mode.

The chassis is amazing and while I actually do think you can take advantage of extra power in this thing and not feel clumsy, the 6 cyl turbo works great and with only 10 more hp than our 2005 x5, it blows that old v8 away.

I've driven high horsepower big cars in the past and while they are fast in straight line they were too big and numb to enjoy driving fast. This x7 however can definitely hustle and enjoy the extra power. I however, dunno if it's worth it as a people hauler.

V8 or I-6, you will all be happy with x7. Just get one!

If I was interested in the v8, I'd wait and get the updated engine.

As regards to v6 mustangs and Camaros. The V6s and Turbo 4s have 1960s muscle car performance these days with sub 14 sec quarter mile times. It's amazing how good engines have become.
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I'd suggest the 40i. The power is more than enough and should be plenty fine for the X7 and its weight, especially since torque is available down really low. The 50i is very nice, but I've never really found BMW V8's to be as reliable as their Inline 6's (I've seen more problems and oil burning issues in the V8, and it seems more documented that the V8 has more problems on the forums) Get the 40i and put the extra cash towards options/warranty/payment, etc.
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Racechip sells plug and play chips that safely increase your HP and Tq if the 40i power range is not cutting it for you.
I have used Race chip in our F15 X5 diesel and not only it made it quicker, but also improved MPG while cruising.
I just ordered a 50i after test driving it because it provided more power with less effort. That was after we decided on the 40i. I will still use the race chip because of its reliability.
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Racechip sells plug and play chips that safely increase your HP and Tq if the 40i power range is not cutting it for you.
I have used Race chip in our F15 X5 diesel and not only it made it quicker, but also improved MPG while cruising.
I just ordered a 50i after test driving it because it provided more power with less effort. That was after we decided on the 40i. I will still use the race chip because of its reliability.
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Didn't see an option for the X7. Is it coming soon? Any experience it affecting warranty in anyway?
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I am interested in the racechip as well, looks like members here are more familiar with it. So far I see their numbers for X5 40i is around 400hp and 400 torque, Im getting a 40i based on input in this thread and hopefully they come out with X7 programs soon
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They will and just to give you additional feedback we have had them on multiple cars for many years and not a single issue. They have awesome tech support as well.
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True... and the pseudo-version of that is that the X7 M50i will be sold in August. Just wait 5 months, and your 50i will have 74 more horsepower. (530hp)
As a guy who bought a 50i on a whim without knowing this, I admit it haunts me a little....even though I absolutely love the car as is.

But I will say, the engine on this thing is awesome. It hauls, and drives like a sports car. Which is insane given what it is.
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