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      11-20-2018, 12:47 PM   #1
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BMW M5 Competition results from Road & Track 2019 Performance Car of the Year contest

Road & Track has published the results from their 2019 Performance Car of the Year contest in which the BMW M5 Competition participated.

Catch the excellent full writeup at https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...r-of-the-year/


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Here is a selection of M5 Competition related quotes from the contest:

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The other half of our eight-car group promised to keep things interesting. BMW’s M5 Competition makes the leap to hyperspace courtesy of a 617-hp twin-turbo V8 and an ultraslick front differential that offers the tail-out delights of a Late Model stock car coupled with the all-weather capability of an F-86D Sabre.
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And in a case of can-beat-’em-but-join-’em-anyway, we brought the first BMW M5 to sport a set of front driveshafts. A clever setup lets the driver sideline them and run the car in two-wheel-drive mode. Our car was the Competition, a $7300 upgrade that adds 17 hp to the twin-turbo V8’s standard 600 hp, along with a host of suspension tweaks aimed at delivering an even more focused driving experience.

Perhaps a little too focused. The M5’s light, fast-ratio steering gives the BMW an agile but slightly nervous feel, even when you've spent an eternity trying the different permutations of chassis and drivetrain modes, saving your two favorite combos so you can call them up later via thumb switches above the left and right steering-wheel spokes. "I suspect you’d have to spend a month fiddling with all the different settings to find your favorite," said deputy web editor Bob Sorokanich.

Rather more immediate is the response you get from a stomp on the right pedal of a sedan whose unholy 0-to-60-mph time feels far closer to Porsche’s RS than Audi’s. "The M5 is fast enough that you could almost certainly make some money at the drag strip," editor-at-large Sam Smith noted. But you could just as easily lose it on the street. It’s a testament to this car’s outright speed and the way you can deploy it anywhere that the M5, the plainest-looking 2019 PCOTY machine, was the only one to land a tester a speeding ticket.
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If, on the other hand, you’re waiting for a sport sedan that accelerates like a supercar, that day is right now, courtesy of the M5 Competition. Quicker than an M4 GTS around NCM and festooned with every luxury feature possible, including illuminated seat-back logos, this M5 is more Abu Dhabi than autobahn. When Mark Donohue made his famous comment about never having enough power, he might not have been talking about two-plus-ton sedans.
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The M5 offers a technical solution to every problem: turbos to solve the power-to-weight equation, a smart all-wheel-drive system to keep you from looping out in your driveway. What it lacks is subtlety and balance. The original M5 was brilliant because it had just enough power to adjust the chassis behavior on the move. This one uses chassis trickery to restrain the engine’s insanity, which is backward.
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By contrast, the M5 proved a lot harder to hustle. "It’s the only car that I found myself on throttle thinking, I wish it was not accelerating as much," Hildebrand said. "It was the hardest car to get around the track. It was impossible to drive smoothly. I hated the steering."

Clocks aren’t concerned with hate. VBOX data showed the M5 lapped NCM’s two-mile course in 1:34.64, more than seven seconds adrift of the nearest sports car but 3.57 seconds faster than the RS5, the next quickest of the family-friendly cars.

In the final reckoning, though, the relatively mortal lap times are not what kept the M5 and RS5 off the top step at PCOTY. Rather, it was the fuzzy math of feelings. Editors pined for the blissful balance of older M5s and the soulful sound of the V8 RS5.

Outright speed and emotion are what matter in a test like this. Yet in the real world, where most of us lack a fleet of cars to choose from based on the weather forecast, these blindingly fast everyday machines, with their all-wheel drive and full-tread tires, are among the smartest. As the old racing saying goes: To finish first, you must first finish.


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And here is the raw testing data collected by R&T on the M5 Competition

All testing result sheets from the competition: https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...pcoty-testing/

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      11-20-2018, 12:57 PM   #2
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This is really impressive numbers for heavy sedan without LC. It still blows mine mind that can beat some really good sports car.lol
Great job from Bmw
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I'm more amazed the Pista is that far behind the ZR1 and GT3RS. Damn, the boys at Maranello have been getting too comfortable and fat.
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Drag results “again” have to be without Launch Control. LC is the most misunderstood feature via the auto media. BMW needs a single button with LC on it for the LCI.
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The article is worth reading for the pics alone. Holy crap those pics are amazing! Especially the rolling shots.
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According to the penciled in chart, they used 2wd mode (not sure if that was used on the track or not)
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Drag results "again" have to be without Launch Control. LC is the most misunderstood feature via the auto media. BMW needs a single button with LC on it for the LCI.
Agree, or no button (a la Porsche). It shouldn't be that hard. But maybe BMW does it that way internationally knowing that the car can't handle too many launches?
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Drag results "again" have to be without Launch Control. LC is the most misunderstood feature via the auto media. BMW needs a single button with LC on it for the LCI.
Agree, or no button (a la Porsche). It shouldn't be that hard. But maybe BMW does it that way internationally knowing that the car can't handle too many launches?
Looks like 8 out off 10 they don't know how to use LC or they screw up. Lol
I got the same 0-60 on winter tires without LC
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How was the m5 competition a full half second slower 0-60 than what Car and Driver got out of standard M5. Something weird there
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They got much better numbers with RS5 than car and driver
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Sad to hear more complaints about the steering feel
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Sad to hear more complaints about the steering feel
Still think all these magazines are biased on who buys the most ad space.
I have driven most of the cars reviewed in this article and can tell you that no way the ZR1 is better than a GT2 RS.
The senna is great but only has one purpose as a track car. I had to take a Yoga class to even get in the driver seat. The mclaren 750 LT that will come out next year will be a true performance car and the first McLaren I'm excited about.
From my experience the top 2 on this list are the GT2 RS and the Pista with the M5 in third place. Put the same track tires on the M5 and a proper driver and see how close you get to the lap times of the top 4 cars in a 4 door luxury sedan.
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Still think all these magazines are biased on who buys the most ad space.
I have driven most of the cars reviewed in this article and can tell you that no way the ZR1 is better than a GT2 RS.
The senna is great but only has one purpose as a track car. I had to take a Yoga class to even get in the driver seat. The mclaren 750 LT that will come out next year will be a true performance car and the first McLaren I'm excited about.
From my experience the top 2 on this list are the GT2 RS and the Pista with the M5 in third place. Put the same track tires on the M5 and a proper driver and see how close you get to the lap times of the top 4 cars in a 4 door luxury sedan.
What’s your personal take on the M5 steering feel compared to other cars in your garage?
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How was the E63s station wagon soccer mom vehicle faster than the m5?
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While all eight are automatic.... DCT -matic is dying... only 3 of the 8 of this group.. and that feature begins at hefty $294,000
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How was the E63s station wagon soccer mom vehicle faster than the m5?
8 speed vs 9 speed.. and .. being actually able to put the ponies to the ground..
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How was the E63s station wagon soccer mom vehicle faster than the m5?
8 speed vs 9 speed.. and .. being actually able to put the ponies to the ground..
E63s launch control is idiot proof and you can increase the launch rpm if you don't care about drivetrain for harder launches.
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How was the E63s station wagon soccer mom vehicle faster than the m5?
I noted above and believe the fools used 2wd to test the F90.... great job R&T as you just re tested a slightly souped up F10 LOL (I jest a little)

But they noted they used 2WD.
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The 0-60 and 1/4 trap speed seem low, especially when there are people dipping into the 2s and knocking on 130mph
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Also, how is the Stelvio as fast as it is.
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