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      10-22-2018, 05:16 PM   #1
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Came in today square set up 285/35/20 XL winter sottozero 3
Will try to install by end off this week and post more pictures
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Ordered the same. Hopefully in this week.
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Ordered the same. Hopefully in this week.
Nice, it's getting cold and I have seen some snow that melted right away.
This picture was taken couple days ago and you can see some snow on edge of driveway
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      10-23-2018, 10:48 AM   #4
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what's the differences between SZ3 and SZ2?
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      10-23-2018, 08:17 PM   #5
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what's the differences between SZ3 and SZ2?
I like the SZ3 more because treads are different and it looks like it has more grip.
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are these bmw star rated?
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      10-24-2018, 05:15 PM   #7
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are these bmw star rated?
I don't think so, but for winter I honestly don't care sense I will drive this car very little.
Won't even take it above 60MH
Won't even load any weight either
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      10-24-2018, 10:36 PM   #8
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Miko, did,you get the tires from Tire Rack?

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Miko, did,you get the tires from Tire Rack?

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Yes I did, incredible price too. I would grab them before they run out.
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      10-31-2018, 06:51 PM   #10
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Dealer SA said I should not put a square setup on the car per discussion with BMW. I have these tires and will likely put them on also. There is a square 19” set coming from BMW, don’t see why a square 20” set has an issue. Although 285’s on the front may be problematic. He said they had an issue with too large of front tires possibly damaging a differential on a 7 Series. Don’t know the details.
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Dealer SA said I should not put a square setup on the car per discussion with BMW. I have these tires and will likely put them on also. There is a square 19” set coming from BMW, don’t see why a square 20” set has an issue. Although 285’s on the front may be problematic. He said they had an issue with too large of front tires possibly damaging a differential on a 7 Series. Don’t know the details.
Square set up is fine on 19' but not on 20'?

That doesn't make sense.

As long as the rolling diameter is the same you can't damage differential.

10mm wider on front won't change much on hight, besides that, I won't be driving much in winter anyway.
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285/35/20 and 275/35/20 don’t have the same diameter
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285/35/20 and 275/35/20 don’t have the same diameter
Yes a little obviously, I think you have to stay within 3%
I have very short drive so it doesn't effect me at all
Plus what if you drive RWD most of the time?
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Finally got them installed
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Finally got them installed
In thinking of ordering the same set up, any issues so far?
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Finally got them installed
In thinking of ordering the same set up, any issues so far?
Not at all.
I stopped yesterday on middle of mine driveway which had 9% pitch and, it had about 1" snow on it. Start driving up hill and didn't see traction light on
Gripes like crazy, more then happy.
I made a video that I might post
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Not at all.
I stopped yesterday on middle of mine driveway which had 9% pitch and, it had about 1" snow on it. Start driving up hill and didn't see traction light on
Gripes like crazy, more then happy.
I made a video that I might post
Did you get the 285/35R20 104V XL ones at closeout sale for about $155 each and installed on OEM staggered 20" wheels? That is a crazy low price. Have been trying to get the Sottozero Serie II but the 285 size is on backorder and cannot find anything else suitable.

Also curious, have you tried to push the car at all with these? Wonder how they perform when pushed in comparison to the summer staggered setup. Any vibration/road noise?

Also wonder if anybody has tried to mix the Sottozero Serie II for front (which come in 275 size) and the Sottozero 3 for the back.
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Not at all.
I stopped yesterday on middle of mine driveway which had 9% pitch and, it had about 1" snow on it. Start driving up hill and didn't see traction light on
Gripes like crazy, more then happy.
I made a video that I might post
Did you get the 285/35R20 104V XL ones at closeout sale for about $155 each and installed on OEM staggered 20" wheels? That is a crazy low price. Have been trying to get the Sottozero Serie II but the 285 size is on backorder and cannot find anything else suitable.

Also curious, have you tried to push the car at all with these? Wonder how they perform when pushed in comparison to the summer staggered setup. Any vibration/road noise?

Also wonder if anybody has tried to mix the Sottozero Serie II for front (which come in 275 size) and the Sottozero 3 for the back.
I am more then happy with them. Perform very well in dry and snow. Noise wise is like nothing, like performance tires.

Did I push the limit on those tires, heck yeah
This Dragy numbers are 0-60 on those tires at 45 deg weather
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I am more then happy with them. Perform very well in dry and snow. Noise wise is like nothing, like performance tires.

Did I push the limit on those tires, heck yeah
This Dragy numbers are 0-60 on those tires at 45 deg weather
Thanks! So you got the closeout sale V rated ones for $155 each? Or the W?

Any other changes you noticed with the bigger width such as any rubbing, steering heavy etc.? I know the diameter difference is only 1% so the rest should be fine but also unsure about going all the way down to V speed rating.

I appreciate all your answers - running out of time to find something suitable. We barely get any snow here so whatever I pick will not see much - maybe once or twice a year in January/February - but the Pirelli summers get so hard when temps are under 40.
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I am more then happy with them. Perform very well in dry and snow. Noise wise is like nothing, like performance tires.

Did I push the limit on those tires, heck yeah
This Dragy numbers are 0-60 on those tires at 45 deg weather
Thanks! So you got the closeout sale V rated ones for $155 each? Or the W?

Any other changes you noticed with the bigger width such as any rubbing, steering heavy etc.? I know the diameter difference is only 1% so the rest should be fine but also unsure about going all the way down to V speed rating.

I appreciate all your answers - running out of time to find something suitable. We barely get any snow here so whatever I pick will not see much - maybe once or twice a year in January/February - but the Pirelli summers get so hard when temps are under 40.
You are very welcome!!
I got the V
No rubbing at all and I am on H&R Springs
Steering feels good, don't feel any difference
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You are very welcome!!
I got the V
No rubbing at all and I am on H&R Springs
Steering feels good, don't feel any difference
If installing a size up in front I am also considering the Michelin Pilot Alpin PA4 which does come in 285/35R20 104V but OE for either Porsche or Mercedes. Not sure if anybody has experience with these here but they seem to have better reviews in general.

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Yes I did, incredible price too. I would grab them before they run out.

Ordered them too $155 each is a steal!

Did you change over you tire settings in iDrive to Winter/all-season too?

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