Dipping Mirror with Comfort Seats

kitster · 10-14-2018, 08:36 AM

Hi all,

I've seen a used G31 with comfort seats (ordered separately, not part of a pack). I've asked my local dealer if the passenger mirror dips on reverse. He has come back and said "No", and I would need to order the folding mirrors. I'm sure I read on these forums that they do dip if you have full electric or comfort seats or it's possible with a software update (with those options)

Can anyone clarify??

Cheers.

AP · 10-14-2018, 08:58 AM

I have a g30 540 with comfort seats and it dips.

I thought that in order to this function you needed comfort seats OR full electric (ie with memory) which and option over and above your normal seats.

Very easy to test obviously as long as the button on the driver door is switched to the position to allow it

kitster · 10-14-2018, 09:39 AM

Thanks for getting back to me. Do you have the comfort pack or folding mirrors option?

AP · 10-14-2018, 10:40 AM

Neither
Just comfort seats as an individual option
U.K. model as well in case that makes a difference.

kitster · 10-14-2018, 11:14 AM

Fantastic stuff. Car I'm looking as the comfort seats as a individual option, also UK spec.

AP · 10-14-2018, 11:19 AM

Just make sure when you reverse the mirror switch on the drivers door is in the right position. It's the switch you use to define which mirror side you want to adjust

kitster · 10-16-2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AP

Neither
Just comfort seats as an individual option
U.K. model as well in case that makes a difference.

Appreciate the advice. I've decided to buy the car. I won't find out if the mirror dips, until the car arrives at the dealership.

AP · 10-16-2018, 04:16 AM

Ok well as usual here post pics when you get it.
Whatever the result , it's a fantastic car, a real step up from the f10 in my opinion.

kitster · 10-16-2018, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AP

Ok well as usual here post pics when you get it.
Whatever the result , it's a fantastic car, a real step up from the f10 in my opinion.

I think so. I'm coming from an F31 with Adaptive Suspension on standard 18", as much as it's a great car to drive, I do find the F31 to be quite unrefined. My missus brother has a F10 MSport on standard suspension and it's much more refined car in virtually every aspect. For the G31 I test drove the standard MSport suspension + 19" and it was great.

Roll on G31. Thanks again for the help.

jackaleyess · 10-16-2018, 10:02 AM

Does anyone has G30 without automatic folding mirror option? Aint it standard??

babaikram · 10-16-2018, 01:41 PM

Automatic folding mirrors are not standard in the UK. Having automatic folding mirrors does not mean having dipping mirrors on reverse

Comfort seats/comfort package or full electric seats come with dipping mirror on reverse but not with automatic folding mirror

kitster · 10-16-2018, 02:01 PM

I've got the folding mirrors that dip on my F31. It is a bit naughty to make you spend a crap load of cash just to get the dip.

For me I don't really use the folding mirrors, the dip is more useful.

emre · 10-17-2018, 02:32 AM

Is everyone happy with this ?
I found it very useful in my earlier cars but I had to disable this feature in my G30 - mirror dips a lot, so much that it is useless.
Looks like no one has this issue

kitster · 10-17-2018, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by emre

Is everyone happy with this ?
I found it very useful in my earlier cars but I had to disable this feature in my G30 - mirror dips a lot, so much that it is useless.
Looks like no one has this issue

Is be surprised if this couldn't be coded? I did this on my F31, there is a setting where you can change the dip angle.

emre · 10-17-2018, 04:11 AM

@kitster that would be great, i will look into this.
Thank you

Bebespapa · 10-17-2018, 05:56 AM

I hate the dip. Makes backing out of my garage a crap shoot. I turn it off first thing.

Bimmertrashjr · 10-17-2018, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bebespapa

I hate the dip. Makes backing out of my garage a crap shoot. I turn it off first thing.

I'm with you. Have it on current 535. Can't stand it!

kitster · 10-17-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by emre

@kitster that would be great, i will look into this.
Thank you

I've dug around my coding notes and I have these listed under the door mirrors:

FEM_BODY
ASP_HORIZONTALE_MIN_POS
ASP_BORDSTEINAUTOMATIK_DELTA

It's been 5 years since I last coded/retrofitted a ProNav. So please check esys at your own risk.

SteveinArizona · 10-17-2018, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bebespapa

I hate the dip. Makes backing out of my garage a crap shoot. I turn it off first thing.

I fold my mirrors before I enter my garage and don't unfold them until I leave. But it does drive me nuts that the passenger side dips when I am finishing backing out so I turn it off.

530iDriver · 10-19-2018, 09:05 PM

530i with sports seats and the passenger mirror dips down in reverse...

Johnny Grabble · 10-20-2018, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by babaikram

Having automatic folding mirrors does not mean having dipping mirrors on reverse

Interesting. Apologies, I have to disagree as this is not true for my car. I have a UK spec G30 530d SE bought new, specc'ed by me, with the option of automatic folding / dimming mirrors, S4T8A and I can promise you it has never been coded. The car does not have Comfort Seats nor does it have the Comfort Pack. The nearside mirrors dips just fine every time I reverse the car (just as it did on my F10 when I specc'ed the same option). The only difference on the G30 is that nearside mirror does not have the auto-dimming glass.

AP · 10-20-2018, 06:39 AM

Do you have full electric seats ( with memory) by any chance?

May be there are regional or build version differences

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AP Major General 2782 Rep 5,095 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I have a g30 540 with comfort seats and it dips. I thought that in order to this function you needed comfort seats OR full electric (ie with memory) which and option over and above your normal seats. Very easy to test obviously as long as the button on the driver door is switched to the position to allow it
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10-14-2018, 09:39 AM	#3
kitster Lieutenant Colonel 541 Rep 1,894 Posts Drives: G31 M Sport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0)	Thanks for getting back to me. Do you have the comfort pack or folding mirrors option?
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AP Major General 2782 Rep 5,095 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Neither Just comfort seats as an individual option U.K. model as well in case that makes a difference.
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kitster Lieutenant Colonel 541 Rep 1,894 Posts Drives: G31 M Sport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0)	Fantastic stuff. Car I'm looking as the comfort seats as a individual option, also UK spec.
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AP Major General 2782 Rep 5,095 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Just make sure when you reverse the mirror switch on the drivers door is in the right position. It's the switch you use to define which mirror side you want to adjust
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10-16-2018, 04:16 AM	#8
AP Major General 2782 Rep 5,095 Posts Drives: G30 M550 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Ok well as usual here post pics when you get it. Whatever the result , it's a fantastic car, a real step up from the f10 in my opinion.
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10-16-2018, 02:01 PM	#12
kitster Lieutenant Colonel 541 Rep 1,894 Posts Drives: G31 M Sport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0)	I've got the folding mirrors that dip on my F31. It is a bit naughty to make you spend a crap load of cash just to get the dip. For me I don't really use the folding mirrors, the dip is more useful.
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emre First Lieutenant 85 Rep 375 Posts Drives: G30 540i xDrive Join Date: May 2010 Location: Istanbul iTrader: (0)	Is everyone happy with this ? I found it very useful in my earlier cars but I had to disable this feature in my G30 - mirror dips a lot, so much that it is useless. Looks like no one has this issue __________________ G30 540i xDrive M Sport MPPSK / BM3
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emre First Lieutenant 85 Rep 375 Posts Drives: G30 540i xDrive Join Date: May 2010 Location: Istanbul iTrader: (0)	@kitster that would be great, i will look into this. Thank you __________________ G30 540i xDrive M Sport MPPSK / BM3
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530iDriver Colonel 1708 Rep 2,539 Posts Drives: 2017 BMW 530i Join Date: May 2018 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	530i with sports seats and the passenger mirror dips down in reverse... __________________ 2017 BMW 530i, Sport Line,Alpine White, Canberra Beige Sensatec, 19 inch V-Spoke wheels, basic plain Jane build with no options whatsoever..... "Less is more". Before: 2011 BMW 328i E90 sedan, Platinum Bronze Metallic, Dakota Brown leather, 17 inch wheels, 6-speed auto, N52 6 Cyl inline N/A goodness....
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