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      06-22-2005, 09:48 AM   #1
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Speed / Power Mods

I know the E90 just came out here in the US, but anybody have any tips on how to start modding the car to make it faster? Not sure were to start, any tips will be appreciated, thanks
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      06-22-2005, 10:44 AM   #2
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I haven't really seen any power/speed mods out for the car yet but there are plenty in development. Dinan will for sure have a chip out for the car, along with other stuff. Bimmerworld is drawing up cams designs and will have software for the E90 and also working to crack valvetronic.

Also, I just saw the thread on the clutch delay valve (CDV) which if removed will give the clutch (if you have manual) a faster engagement and should give you a better launch.

Give it some time and we'll see all sorts of intakes, exhausts, chips, etc... can't wait!
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      06-22-2005, 10:44 AM   #3
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Don't.... There will soon be a 335i and then a new M3. Save your money and buy one of those if you want more power. Nothing will be more cost effective in the long run.
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      06-22-2005, 10:46 AM   #4
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Don't.... There will soon be a 335i and then a new M3. Save your money and buy one of those if you want more power. Nothing will be more cost effective in the long run.
"in the long run" is the key word here. Some of us just don't wanna wait (or can't afford) until the rumored 335i or M3. I personally just want a little more grunt to my 325 so I'll be looking for mods. Plus it's fun as hell to mod up your car a little bit... a bit of personalization which gives you better performance.
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      06-22-2005, 10:57 AM   #5
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"in the long run" is the key word here. Some of us just don't wanna wait (or can't afford) until the rumored 335i or M3. I personally just want a little more grunt to my 325 so I'll be looking for mods. Plus it's fun as hell to mod up your car a little bit... a bit of personalization which gives you better performance.
I agree with Gnosis. What I think Gnosis means is that if you wanted more power on your 325i, a safer, more cost-effective way to get it would have been to buy a 330i. If you got a 330i and want to mod out for more power, you should have waited until the 335i.

Aftermarket "upgrades" usually end up costing more for the same hp output as buying the extra power from the factory. Plus, a modified car will likely compromise the warranty. All that being said, I still want to do a few mods to my car. (Exhaust, CDV, suspension, maybe a chip). Probably the thing I want most is adjustable shocks. The 330i Sport suspension is great, but if you could control damping a little better, it would really make it sweet!

My posts discouraging engine mods always seem to get deleted from other message boards, probably becuase they are supported by aftermarket tuners, and I can understand that, but it makes me MAD! :mad:

I think modifications are cool, if done right. Mostly, I think that mods should be done to help differentiate your car, and make it unique. If you have the money and courage to tear open your engine and mod it, then you have my respect.
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      06-22-2005, 11:02 AM   #6
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"in the long run" is the key word here. Some of us just don't wanna wait (or can't afford) until the rumored 335i or M3. I personally just want a little more grunt to my 325 so I'll be looking for mods. Plus it's fun as hell to mod up your car a little bit... a bit of personalization which gives you better performance.
*Sigh*

And why didn't you just just buy a 330i then? You'll never get back the money you spend upgrading your 325i. But if you trade it for a 330i you can sell it at a 330i price later.

And then you'll be able to afford buying your next car the same way - with a stronger engine - since you didn't spend $4000 modding your current car.

Don't get me wrong - I like modded cars but I really wouldn't recommend anyone else to upgrade the engines of their 325i or 330i. If you have a M3 and do it - then it's a different story. Because then you already have the top model in the series.

But If you're in the position where you start engine modding your brand new E90 then you really have picked the wrong car. You should have bought a second hand RS4 or something like that instead.
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      06-22-2005, 11:07 AM   #7
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Good points fellas. I'm not planning on doing much engine mods. Like I said I just want a little more grunt so so hopefully a chip and intake or exhaust will give me that. I didn't get a 330i cuz i couldn't afford it at the time, but eventually I'll be making more money in my job and will be able to spend some money on a few mods. Plus I never said I was gonna spend $4k modding my car. And just cuz you don't agree with what you originally thought my post was saying doesn't make it "B.S." It's all cool tho.
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Good points fellas. I'm not planning on doing much engine mods. Like I said I just want a little more grunt so so hopefully a chip and intake or exhaust will give me that. I didn't get a 330i cuz i couldn't afford it at the time, but eventually I'll be making more money in my job and will be able to spend some money on a few mods. Plus I never said I was gonna spend $4k modding my car. And just cuz you don't agree with what you originally thought my post was saying doesn't make it "B.S."
For the record, I didn't think your post was B.S.
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      06-22-2005, 11:14 AM   #9
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I know the E90 just came out here in the US, but anybody have any tips on how to start modding the car to make it faster? Not sure were to start, any tips will be appreciated, thanks
Suspension mods might not give you "power" but it might make you faster in that it gives you even higher handling limits and reduces wheel gap which makes the car look better. There's already plenty of aftermarket suspension options avaialble. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613
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Ok - sorry. The maybe was a bit over the top.

But I just think it's so sad that many people get trapped in this "evil downward spiral". They don't have the money to buy the better model because they didn't have the money to buy the better model of their previous car. And then they thought they had to upgrade it - money the'll never get back. And so it continues...
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      06-22-2005, 11:22 AM   #11
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I'm really hoping that a chip and intake/exhaust can squeeze some power from the car. I did a search and came across this chip from Upsolute for a 630 and they seem to have gotten a few more ponies from the car

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...highlight=chip
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      06-22-2005, 11:30 AM   #12
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While we are on the subject, one often overlooked thing that will make your car faster is high performance driving school. That is probably the best bang for your buck in terms of enjoying your car and being able to drive faster more safely. My friend reminded me of this lately.

I know none of us like to admit it, but the weak link for most of us when it comes to "performance" is us!
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      06-22-2005, 11:31 AM   #13
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Don't.... There will soon be a 335i and then a new M3. Save your money and buy one of those if you want more power. Nothing will be more cost effective in the long run.

Even better, when are the mods coming for the M3?
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Anybody know the price range for the Dinan Chips?

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While we are on the subject, one often overlooked thing that will make your car faster is high performance driving school. That is probably the best bang for your buck in terms of enjoying your car and being able to drive faster more safely. My friend reminded me of this lately.

I know none of us like to admit it, but the weak link for most of us when it comes to "performance" is us!
Amen!
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BHP Motorsport in Germany is also offering chip tuning for all current E90 models:

320i (150 -> 168hp)
325i (218 -> 244hp)
330i (258 -> 290hp)
320d (160 -> 199hp)

Last edited by Femme; 06-22-2005 at 12:55 PM.. Reason: fixed typo (255hp -> 244hp)
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BHP Motorsport in Germany is also offering chip tuning for all current E90 models:

320i (150 -> 168hp)
325i (218 -> 255hp)
330i (258 -> 290hp)
320d (160 -> 199hp)
Those hp claims seem a little excessive, no?
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BHP Motorsport in Germany is also offering chip tuning for all current E90 models:

320i (150 -> 168hp)
325i (218 -> 255hp)
330i (258 -> 290hp)
320d (160 -> 199hp)
Actually it brings up the 325 to 244 hp, not 255, but regardless, I guess I was wrong. It doesn't seem to be too difficult to get more hp out of either engine.

But I don't get it.....were these types of gains possible with the E46 in the U.S.? At least with Dinan I remember that the E46 330 barely got anything, maybe 10 hp, and with a LOT of mods.

Is European tuning drastically different from U.S. tuning? Or do the European version engines just lend themselves much more easily to updating?
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If there is a difference, it could be related to smog issues. Here in the states, it's very restrictive. I remember when I was tuning Hondas, the JDM versions always had more power than the USDM ones.

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or wait for the new M3 jk
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While we are on the subject, one often overlooked thing that will make your car faster is high performance driving school. That is probably the best bang for your buck in terms of enjoying your car and being able to drive faster more safely. My friend reminded me of this lately.

I know none of us like to admit it, but the weak link for most of us when it comes to "performance" is us!
So true...just spent last saturday @ BMW's 1 Day school and it was great.
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BHP Motorsport in Germany is also offering chip tuning for all current E90 models:

320i (150 -> 168hp)
325i (218 -> 244hp)
330i (258 -> 290hp)
320d (160 -> 199hp)
Is there a way to get this site in English?

I would love to order one for my 325...
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