Vinyl Wrapping problems

K9Leader · 06-09-2018, 08:40 PM

So, I've been playing around with vinyl wrapping the interior trim on my 2010 E91. I've made three attempts - a Vvivid silver carbon fiber, a red-and-black carbon fiber look using a film made for golf carts (which was the best for application but I did not like the color - too orange, not red enough), and an Orafol (or Oracal?) film (love the color but a lot of problems getting the inside corners to stick (not peel).

The thing I can't seem to get right is the inside corners of the dash trim and the center console trim - while they appear okay on installation, they start pulling away within a day or two. See the picture below - this was a day after installation and now, a week later, they are much worse. The film that worked best was the golf cart film with only minimal pull away (but, as I noted, I didn't like the color).

Any advice, tips, tricks on how to overcome this problem?

K9Leader

StevenY. · 06-09-2018, 08:48 PM

Did you do a relief cut to the film in those areas that you stretched? That's my best guess as to why it may be lifting.

Acornell77 · 06-09-2018, 08:54 PM

I just recently went through this process with 2 of my cars. I started with my E46 and vynil wrapped the interior with brushed aluminum.

It came out ok. I really took my time but it was tough and took forever. Sort of frustrating at times then like you said certain areas started peeling up after a few days.

So I had my e90 to do, I hate wood trim. I purchased piano black vynil but figured I would run to store grab some peelable matte black instead and worse case scenario I can peel it off try again but I love it. it took me a fraction of the time. it's been there for months and still looks good, no peeling ect.

just my 2 cents. Hell with vynil with interior parts just paint them. much easier and comes out nicer.

K9Leader · 06-09-2018, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenY.

Did you do a relief cut to the film in those areas that you stretched? That's my best guess as to why it may be lifting.

Yep, I used relief cuts, heated it and stretched/molded it. The PowerSportsWraps stuff was the best - very little pulling away. The Orafol stuff was the most difficult to apply and has pulled away the most, but it is the perfect color and look.

K9Leader · 06-09-2018, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Acornell77

I just recently went through this process with 2 of my cars. I started with my E46 and vynil wrapped the interior with brushed aluminum.

It came out ok. I really took my time but it was tough and took forever. Sort of frustrating at times then like you said certain areas started peeling up after a few days.

So I had my e90 to do, I hate wood trim. I purchased piano black vynil but figured I would run to store grab some peelable matte black instead and worse case scenario I can peel it off try again but I love it. it took me a fraction of the time. it's been there for months and still looks good, no peeling ect.

just my 2 cents. Hell with vynil with interior parts just paint them. much easier and comes out nicer.

Yes, I've ordered some Plasti Dip spray that appears to be close to the color I'm looking for and I'm going to try that next. I actually have two sets of trim - after I got the PowerSportsWrap (the red and black carbon fiber) done I didn't want to peel it off so I ordered another trim set (Yay, Ebay!) so I could work on one while leaving the other set installed (and, I would have two different patterns that I could swap out for a change if I felt like it).

If that doesn't work, then it is on to painting.

StevenY. · 06-09-2018, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K9Leader

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Originally Posted by StevenY.

Did you do a relief cut to the film in those areas that you stretched? That's my best guess as to why it may be lifting.

Yep, I used relief cuts, heated it and stretched/molded it. The PowerSportsWraps stuff was the best - very little pulling away. The Orafol stuff was the most difficult to apply and has pulled away the most, but it is the perfect color and look.

Maybe you should try adhesion promoter in those areas so that it can help the vinyl stick better and maybe then it won't lift away.

boostE92d · 06-09-2018, 11:28 PM

Over stretching, especially without a heat source. Exposure to humidity too soon, especially in hot climates. Two causes that I have experienced cause lifting.

K9Leader · 06-10-2018, 08:38 AM

So I rewrapped the small dash piece, using adhesion promoter - I did have one adhesion promoter pad that came with one of the various wraps I've ordered. The corners look good now but will see in a day or two or three.

cjdzombie · 07-10-2018, 09:56 AM

What was the issue with the silver carbon fiber? I was looking at getting some of that from Vvivid.

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K9Leader Captain 1051 Rep 782 Posts Drives: 2010 328ix E91, 2011 128i E82 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 128i [10.00] 2010 BMW 328i [10.00]	Vinyl Wrapping problems So, I've been playing around with vinyl wrapping the interior trim on my 2010 E91. I've made three attempts - a Vvivid silver carbon fiber, a red-and-black carbon fiber look using a film made for golf carts (which was the best for application but I did not like the color - too orange, not red enough), and an Orafol (or Oracal?) film (love the color but a lot of problems getting the inside corners to stick (not peel). The thing I can't seem to get right is the inside corners of the dash trim and the center console trim - while they appear okay on installation, they start pulling away within a day or two. See the picture below - this was a day after installation and now, a week later, they are much worse. The film that worked best was the golf cart film with only minimal pull away (but, as I noted, I didn't like the color). Any advice, tips, tricks on how to overcome this problem? K9Leader
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Acornell77 Enlisted Member 13 Rep 38 Posts Drives: 06 BMW 330XI Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	I just recently went through this process with 2 of my cars. I started with my E46 and vynil wrapped the interior with brushed aluminum. It came out ok. I really took my time but it was tough and took forever. Sort of frustrating at times then like you said certain areas started peeling up after a few days. So I had my e90 to do, I hate wood trim. I purchased piano black vynil but figured I would run to store grab some peelable matte black instead and worse case scenario I can peel it off try again but I love it. it took me a fraction of the time. it's been there for months and still looks good, no peeling ect. just my 2 cents. Hell with vynil with interior parts just paint them. much easier and comes out nicer. Attached Images
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boostE92d Private First Class 61 Rep 174 Posts Drives: 12' 335is Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Houston,TX iTrader: (0)	Over stretching, especially without a heat source. Exposure to humidity too soon, especially in hot climates. Two causes that I have experienced cause lifting.
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