So for those with the car already.

URBAN LEGEND · 05-15-2018, 04:41 AM

Are we back to using brake pedal at stop lights or will the vehicle stay in place as with dcts on flat surfaces? Thanks!

I know pulling the e brake lever is always an option...

elitex · 05-15-2018, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Are we back to using brake pedal at stop lights or will the vehicle stay in place as with dcts on flat surfaces? Thanks!

I know pulling the e brake lever is always an option...

There's an Auto hold feature with auto transmissions. F10 5 series had this feature also.

Aronis · 05-15-2018, 07:34 AM

Autohold works great, but I don't find that stepping on the brake at a light a big issue.

I've been driving for years and usually need to hold the brake to keep the car from moving at a light. Manual or Auto transmissions. So what are you talking about?

Mike

URBAN LEGEND · 05-15-2018, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aronis

Autohold works great, but I don't find that stepping on the brake at a light a big issue.

I've been driving for years and usually need to hold the brake to keep the car from moving at a light. Manual or Auto transmissions. So what are you talking about?

Mike

All of my DCT cars won’t go forward at a level spot such as a stop light. If it’s an incline it rolls back.

URBAN LEGEND · 05-15-2018, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitex

There's an Auto hold feature with auto transmissions. F10 5 series had this feature also.

I know. I mentioned this.

Aronis · 05-15-2018, 10:05 AM

The M5 has torque converter, so no DCT.

My M2 had DCT and rolled at stop lights.

If that helps.

Mike

elitex · 05-15-2018, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitex

There's an Auto hold feature with auto transmissions. F10 5 series had this feature also.

I know. I mentioned this.

You said pulling E brake is an option. That's not what I'm talking about. There's an Auto hold feature Everytime you stop automatically.

zuschnell · 05-15-2018, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

All of my DCT cars won’t go forward at a level spot such as a stop light. If it’s an incline it rolls back.

You don't have to use your brakes. I assume this is the same set up as the ZF trans in the x5m. I can let off the brakes after coming to a full stop without using the auto-hold feature. The auto-hold is different as it actually engages a brake until you hit the gas. In the x5m, it basically feels the same as the DCT in my m3 at a stop.

elitex · 05-15-2018, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuschnell

Quote:

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

All of my DCT cars won't go forward at a level spot such as a stop light. If it's an incline it rolls back.

You don't have to use your brakes. I assume this is the same set up as the ZF trans in the x5m. I can let off the brakes after coming to a full stop without using the auto-hold feature. The auto-hold is different as it actually engages a brake until you hit the gas. In the x5m, it basically feels the same as the DCT in my m3 at a stop.

Not in the new M5. It creeps forward like any other Auto and Audi stronic and PDK.

URBAN LEGEND · 05-15-2018, 11:19 AM

Oh man.

SpeedyDad · 05-15-2018, 11:44 AM

The auto-hold feature is amazing and it's an actual button that is easy to access if you want to use it situationally. I use it in city traffic.

zuschnell · 05-15-2018, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitex

Not in the new M5. It creeps forward like any other Auto and Audi stronic and PDK.

Oh, that kinda sucks. Thanks for the correction.

Green///Hell · 05-15-2018, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zuschnell

Oh, that kinda sucks. Thanks for the correction.

Park with DCT or PDK with no creep and it gets old really fast especially having to give gas in reverse in tight spots

josec70 · 05-15-2018, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green///Hell

Park with DCT or PDK with no creep and it gets old really fast especially having to give gas in reverse in tight spots

The "no creep" doesn't really bother me at all even in reverse. I may just have gotten used to it from so many years w/ DCT.

Green///Hell · 05-15-2018, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josec70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green///Hell

Park with DCT or PDK with no creep and it gets old really fast especially having to give gas in reverse in tight spots

The "no creep" doesn't really bother me at all even in reverse. I may just have gotten used to it from so many years w/ DCT.

Could be right. I'm just used to the PDK, it feels like you get big bursts of power when you're feathering throttle to park. Especially on an incline it's a power push

MTHX · 05-15-2018, 09:54 PM

Just use the "auto pilot"

Patrik · 05-16-2018, 06:30 AM

I tend to change to P (park) while standing in longer lights in an automatic car. Saves your leg and the brake lights

josec70 · 05-16-2018, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrik

I tend to change to P (park) while standing in longer lights in an automatic car. Saves your leg and the brake lights

I've been in F10 M5's since 13' and honestly don't know what the heck I do at lights LOL. I think I keep my foot on the brake although w/ DCT it's generally not necessary on flat surfaces.

DingolfingLove · 05-16-2018, 08:30 AM

Apologies for being off-topic, how does the F90 compare at reversing ? - select reverse in comfort in my non-modded F10 and the lightest touch on the throttle gives you whiplash and spins the wheels as you are trying to reverse park.

frankchn · 05-16-2018, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DingolfingLove

Apologies for being off-topic, how does the F90 compare at reversing ? - select reverse in comfort in my non-modded F10 and the lightest touch on the throttle gives you whiplash and spins the wheels as you are trying to reverse park.

Since it is behaves like any other torque converter auto, the car will creep forward if you don't touch either pedal. You can modulate the speed of the creeping with the brake, just like any other auto.

Fegelein · 05-16-2018, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitex

There's an Auto hold feature with auto transmissions. F10 5 series had this feature also.

There is and how do you engage it? Maybe the M-Sport I have, eliminates the option? In my Benz, you simply hold the pedal till the "hold" light comes on.

URBAN LEGEND · 05-16-2018, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elitex

There's an Auto hold feature with auto transmissions. F10 5 series had this feature also.

I remember something like that in my 11 550i.

05-15-2018, 04:41 AM	#1
URBAN LEGEND Rocky 412 Rep 3,085 Posts Drives: 16 M5, 18 ZL1 1LE, 18 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brenham TX iTrader: (0)	So for those with the car already. Are we back to using brake pedal at stop lights or will the vehicle stay in place as with dcts on flat surfaces? Thanks! I know pulling the e brake lever is always an option... __________________ 22 Audi RS E-Tron GT 21 Model S Plaid
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

05-15-2018, 07:34 AM	#3
Aronis Brigadier General 2274 Rep 3,300 Posts Drives: 2018 M5 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Binghamton, NY iTrader: (0)	Autohold works great, but I don't find that stepping on the brake at a light a big issue. I've been driving for years and usually need to hold the brake to keep the car from moving at a light. Manual or Auto transmissions. So what are you talking about? Mike __________________ 2018 M5 and 2019 Porsche Boxster GTS Prior. '94 325is, '97 M3 Lux, '16 M2
	Appreciate 0 Quote

05-15-2018, 10:05 AM	#6
Aronis Brigadier General 2274 Rep 3,300 Posts Drives: 2018 M5 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Binghamton, NY iTrader: (0)	The M5 has torque converter, so no DCT. My M2 had DCT and rolled at stop lights. If that helps. Mike __________________ 2018 M5 and 2019 Porsche Boxster GTS Prior. '94 325is, '97 M3 Lux, '16 M2
	Appreciate 0 Quote

05-15-2018, 11:19 AM	#10
URBAN LEGEND Rocky 412 Rep 3,085 Posts Drives: 16 M5, 18 ZL1 1LE, 18 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Brenham TX iTrader: (0)	Oh man.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

05-15-2018, 11:44 AM	#11
SpeedyDad Second Lieutenant 283 Rep 288 Posts Drives: 2018 F90 M5 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Los Angeles, Ca iTrader: (0) Garage List 2003 E39 M5 [0.00] 2018 BMW M5 [0.00]	The auto-hold feature is amazing and it's an actual button that is easy to access if you want to use it situationally. I use it in city traffic. __________________ BMWs: 03 E39 M5, 22 330e, 23 X5 45e 2016 Porsche Boxster Spyder 2016 Toyota 4Runner Sold - 2018 M5
	Appreciate 0 Quote

05-15-2018, 09:54 PM	#16
MTHX First Lieutenant 233 Rep 354 Posts Drives: 335XI MPerformance edition Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Québec Province iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 F90M5 [0.00]	Just use the "auto pilot"
	Appreciate 0 Quote

05-16-2018, 06:30 AM	#17
Patrik Private First Class 158 Rep 153 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Helsinki iTrader: (0)	I tend to change to P (park) while standing in longer lights in an automatic car. Saves your leg and the brake lights
	Appreciate 0 Quote

05-16-2018, 08:30 AM	#19
DingolfingLove Private First Class 41 Rep 158 Posts Drives: 2019 M5 Comp Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: London iTrader: (0)	Apologies for being off-topic, how does the F90 compare at reversing ? - select reverse in comfort in my non-modded F10 and the lightest touch on the throttle gives you whiplash and spins the wheels as you are trying to reverse park.
	Appreciate 0 Quote