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      05-10-2018, 06:10 PM   #1
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Introducing: Lusso Performance 3" Catless Downpipes for the BMW F90 M5!

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These seem like the type of thing that people will buy when the get an m5 CPO. Not fresh of the production line at 120k or when it's leased
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Interesting! Is this the downpipe used by dme's f90?
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These seem like the type of thing that people will buy when the get an m5 CPO. Not fresh of the production line at 120k or when it's leased
Whats the problem with "fresh of production" ?
First mode i done when picked up f10 within 1000 miles
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These seem like the type of thing that people will buy when the get an m5 CPO. Not fresh of the production line at 120k or when it's leased
Whats the problem with "fresh of production" ?
First mode i done when picked up f10 within 1000 miles
Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
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These seem like the type of thing that people will buy when the get an m5 CPO. Not fresh of the production line at 120k or when it's leased
Whats the problem with "fresh of production" ?
First mode i done when picked up f10 within 1000 miles
Are you leasing it?
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Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
Why wouldn't you tune the ECU if you were doing downpipes?

The amount of power and torque the S63 motor gains with a reflash is INSANE and now the F90 M5 will be even more fun to drive at insane power levels with M xDrive.
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Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
Why wouldn't you tune the ECU if you were doing downpipes?

The amount of power and torque the S63 motor gains with a reflash is INSANE and now the F90 M5 will be even more fun to drive at insane power levels with M xDrive.
I'm not denying any of the performance gains. I'm simply stating the market for these seems like it would be extremely small right now.

And likely would be for a couple years
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Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
Why wouldn't you tune the ECU if you were doing downpipes?

The amount of power and torque the S63 motor gains with a reflash is INSANE and now the F90 M5 will be even more fun to drive at insane power levels with M xDrive.
I'm not denying any of the performance gains. I'm simply stating the market for these seems like it would be extremely small right now.

And likely would be for a couple years
Boys with toys will play. Go check out the Porsche, Lambo and Ferrari forums. Guys are modifying them before they have 10 miles on the odo. Price of car is irrelevant.
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These seem like the type of thing that people will buy when the get an m5 CPO. Not fresh of the production line at 120k or when it's leased
Whats the problem with "fresh of production" ?
First mode i done when picked up f10 within 1000 miles
Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
What does leasing have to do with it? Just reinstall the cats before you turn it in.
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Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
Why wouldn't you tune the ECU if you were doing downpipes?

The amount of power and torque the S63 motor gains with a reflash is INSANE and now the F90 M5 will be even more fun to drive at insane power levels with M xDrive.
I'm not denying any of the performance gains. I'm simply stating the market for these seems like it would be extremely small right now.

And likely would be for a couple years
Boys with toys will play. Go check out the Porsche, Lambo and Ferrari forums. Guys are modifying them before they have 10 miles on the odo. Price of car is irrelevant.
My point: you don't play like this with leased cars. Which most of the M5 being delivered in the first couple years will be. I could definitely see this on CPO cars. And again, I'm not say no one will buy downpipes for a new car. Only saying market is small.

And I'm not surprised that the owners of those cars like porsche and exotics go online to mod seek out info and share information on forums.
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These seem like the type of thing that people will buy when the get an m5 CPO. Not fresh of the production line at 120k or when it's leased
Whats the problem with "fresh of production" ?
First mode i done when picked up f10 within 1000 miles
Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
What does leasing have to do with it? Just reinstall the cats before you turn it in.
Because that is more work than it's worth. The percentage of people who mod is tiny, the percentage of people who mod brand new cars is tinier.
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Because that is more work than it's worth. The percentage of people who mod is tiny, the percentage of people who mod brand new cars is tinier.
"hmm yea im not sure if i can pay for the 0.5% of my cars value install charge twice, I should probably wait a couple years for it to be payed off"

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Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
Why wouldn't you tune the ECU if you were doing downpipes?

The amount of power and torque the S63 motor gains with a reflash is INSANE and now the F90 M5 will be even more fun to drive at insane power levels with M xDrive.
I'm not denying any of the performance gains. I'm simply stating the market for these seems like it would be extremely small right now.

And likely would be for a couple years
Boys with toys will play. Go check out the Porsche, Lambo and Ferrari forums. Guys are modifying them before they have 10 miles on the odo. Price of car is irrelevant.
My point: you don't play like this with leased cars. Which most of the M5 being delivered in the first couple years will be. I could definitely see this on CPO cars. And again, I'm not say no one will buy downpipes for a new car. Only saying market is small.

And I'm not surprised that the owners of those cars like porsche and exotics go online to mod seek out info and share information on forums.
You have a lot to learn, young grasshopper. Lease, finance, own outright... makes no difference.
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My thoughts in passing:

1) A lot of people, including myself, will mod their car early in the life cycle.

2) Despite that I would not go with downpipes this early in the game - I prefer to wait until at least a few other options are available in the marketplace, to compare and assess quality.

3) The welds (?) on these downpipes leave a lot to be desired. I'm not impressed. Attention to detail matters - for me at least.

4) To me (this is personal opinion) installing downpipes without ecu/chip/flash tune is a mistake. I would wait for a proven combination of downpipes+software.

5) Lusso, please post dyno charts establishing the claimed gains.
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You have a lot to learn, young grasshopper. Lease, finance, own outright... makes no difference.
for a new car, there could be huge differences particularly between a lease and a purchase (finance or outright). It comes down to residual and actual car value after the lease date.
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I'm not denying any of the performance gains. I'm simply stating the market for these seems like it would be extremely small right now.

And likely would be for a couple years
you're partially correct. People tend not to tune cars that are still under warranty. But downpipes are bolt ons...it's easily reversible as are intakes, exhausts, suspension parts, cosmetics.
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My thoughts in passing:

1) A lot of people, including myself, will mod their car early in the life cycle.

2) Despite that I would not go with downpipes this early in the game - I prefer to wait until at least a few other options are available in the marketplace, to compare and assess quality.

3) The welds (?) on these downpipes leave a lot to be desired. I'm not impressed. Attention to detail matters - for me at least.

4) To me (this is personal opinion) installing downpipes without ecu/chip/flash tune is a mistake. I would wait for a proven combination of downpipes+software.

5) Lusso, please post dyno charts establishing the claimed gains.
I just got my S63, but my understanding is the DME for the S63 will automatically adjust for bolt ons (intake, exhaust and downpipes).

I could be wrong, still learning a lot about the motor. On the S65, I think there will be minimum gains without a tune. Also to add, I'm guessing this part is no different than the current S63B44TO downpipes. I'm not surprised a vendor has already released these bolt ons.
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These seem like the type of thing that people will buy when the get an m5 CPO. Not fresh of the production line at 120k or when it's leased
People have put triple turbos on mclarens. If they want to they will do it. M5 is chump change to most exotics lol
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Not saying that no one will do it. But is not likely at this price point and considering most of these vehicles will be leased right now

Not to mention you'd be staring at a CEL every time you drive it
Why wouldn't you tune the ECU if you were doing downpipes?

The amount of power and torque the S63 motor gains with a reflash is INSANE and now the F90 M5 will be even more fun to drive at insane power levels with M xDrive.
I'm not denying any of the performance gains. I'm simply stating the market for these seems like it would be extremely small right now.

And likely would be for a couple years
Boys with toys will play. Go check out the Porsche, Lambo and Ferrari forums. Guys are modifying them before they have 10 miles on the odo. Price of car is irrelevant.
My point: you don't play like this with leased cars. Which most of the M5 being delivered in the first couple years will be. I could definitely see this on CPO cars. And again, I'm not say no one will buy downpipes for a new car. Only saying market is small.

And I'm not surprised that the owners of those cars like porsche and exotics go online to mod seek out info and share information on forums.
Your point is that YOU don't play like this with leased cars. I have friend that put Airbags on Leaded cars with methkits and turbo upgrades. Lol
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