M5 Drivetrain Malfunction

neohh · 04-26-2018, 10:59 AM

Gents

Trying to consolidate the list of members that have the drivetrain issues. So far we know:

1. Most car delivered in March or earlier or with VIN # less than 2470 have no issues.
2. A significant portion of April delivery between vin # 2480 to 2713 reported malfunction. The problem started almost right after taking delivery.

We will need more new VIN# or production to conclude if this problem has been resolved on newer production.

Drivetrain issues reported:

User Delivery VIN# Mileage Issue after fix
M5Speed Mar/Apr? 2480 500 vtg control
m55551111 Apr 2511 20
404NotFound Apr 2538 30 none so far
Nocera Apr 2543 400
fmalzoni Apr 2553
DK79 Apr 2557
lectric1e Apr 2566 40
skyjunky Apr 2589 170
mad4comp Apr 2604 none so far
bryantmeyers Apr 2611 100 none so far
vesko06 Apr 2614 1555
hoffmeister Apr 2617 420
afk8445 Apr 2639 120
mayorsizzle Apr 2641
canderous Apr 2684
sollomon Apr n/a
swisstype Apr 2713 new
pilotroger n/a n/a n/a
sybaek9 Apr 2729
slalomfever Apr 2750
MagicBeast Apr 2752 16
Mporcl Apr 2766

No Issues:

User Delivery Vin# Mileage
peteratmsr Mar 2085 1200
alpinefrenchfry Mar 2118 1148
rjwtkd Mar 2143 1500
Quickburn7 Mar 2173 1700
Ikdavis Mar 2301 675
Patrick_Bateman Mar 2367 1350
getmetnow Mar 2381 950
elitex Mar 2408 1400
Hill Country F90 Mar 2422
onfireX5 Mar 2470 720
BG23 Mar n/a 1000

m55551111 · 04-26-2018, 11:18 AM

great job

skyjunky · 04-26-2018, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neohh

Gents

Trying to consolidate the list of members that have the drivetrain issues. So far we know:

1. Most car delivered in March or earlier or with VIN # less than 2470 have no issues.
2. A significant portion of April delivery between vin # 2480 to 2611 reported malfunction. The problem started almost right after taking delivery.

We will need more new VIN# or production to conclude if this problem has been resolved on newer production.

Drivetrain issues reported:

User Delivery VIN# Mileage Issue after fix
M5Speed Mar/Apr? 2480 500 vtg control
m55551111 Apr 2511 20
404NotFound Apr 2538 30 none so far
lectric1e Apr 2566 40
bryantmeyers Apr 2611 100 none so far
skyjunky Apr n/a 170
sollomon Apr n/a
swisstype Apr n/a new
pilotroger n/a n/a n/a

No Issues:

User Delivery Vin# Mileage
peteratmsr Mar 2085 1200
alpinefrenchfry Mar 2118 1148
rjwtkd Mar 2143 1500
Quickburn7 Mar 2173 1700
Ikdavis Mar 2301 675
Patrick_Bateman Mar 2367 1350
getmetnow Mar 2381 950
elitex Mar 2408 1400
Hill Country F90 Mar 2422
onfireX5 Mar 2470 720
BG23 Mar n/a 1000
Nocera Apr 2543 400
hoffmeister Apr 2617 275

Last 4 of my vin are 2589.
Car upto 360 miles now, hit the problem last night again for the 2nd time, got a picture of the error message, it is same as the others that have been posted, "drivetrain malfunction”.

swisstype · 04-26-2018, 01:33 PM

My VIN is 2713

NaciernoF10 · 04-26-2018, 01:59 PM

Mine is 2660 should be here next week hoping im not stuck in the batch of problems

onfireX5 · 04-26-2018, 02:45 PM

I still think it comes down to : Does your Dealership update flash your DME at delivery or not. Mine did. I would request that if you have not picked up your M5 yet as some Dealerships do not.

neohh · 04-26-2018, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaciernoF10

Mine is 2660 should be here next week hoping im not stuck in the batch of problems

Considering another member with vin #2713 still has the same issue it is unlikely that BMW has fully resolve this issue at production. However, they should be well aware of this issue by now and hopefully do all the necessary update / fix prior to handing out to customer. Good luck.

lectric1e · 04-26-2018, 03:28 PM

Home after "530" solution so far so good

vesko06 · 04-26-2018, 04:54 PM

The problem started almost right after taking delivery.
VIN 5614
Delivery - April
Mileage - 1555

afk8445 · 04-26-2018, 06:01 PM

VIN 2639
drivetrain malfunction - limp mode @ 55 miles
car software updated, transport mode deleted
so far car ok @ 120 miles

M5speed · 04-26-2018, 07:20 PM

My drivetrain malfunction issue seems to auto-correct itself after five minutes of being turned off then on again. Based on the timing of it occurring, it seems like after it gets hot for some reason, the computer is telling it to lock in order to protect itself. I have to believe it to be closely related to the break in of the car as Im still under the break in period.

skyjunky · 04-27-2018, 04:28 PM

Mine just came back from the dealership.
They said that there were lots of faults regarding the high-pressure fuel supply being, well, not high-pressure. They corrected it with a software update.

This is exactly what others have reported, more evidence pointing to an issue with a specific batch of cars. Given that no-one has reported a repeat of the issue after the software upgrade I’m hoping this bug has really gone for good.

mad4comp · 04-27-2018, 07:31 PM

VIN: 2603
Delivery Date: 04/14
Mileage: 50 miles.

Died while leaving the dealership after picking up/returning some parts. Drivetrain malfunction comes on while picking up speed to reach the 45 mph speed limit. Car stutters, shuts off in the middle of the road. 2 minutes later, restart the car, works fine... like nothing happened. Drove back to the dealer.. fixing it now (software update).

M5speed · 04-27-2018, 07:44 PM

Ive come to be at peace with my malfunctioning fucked up car. I still love it.

fmalzoni · 04-27-2018, 10:41 PM

I had the same problem with about 300 miles and again today with 750 miles.

I contacted the dealership the first time and we agreed that if the problem happened again I would send the car ASAP.

I took delivery on April 10th. My VIN ends in 2553.

I’ll take the car to BMW of Manhattan ASAP and keep you posted.

neohh · 04-28-2018, 08:20 AM

Will need newer car with vin#after 27xx to confirm the issue has been resolved by bmw.

bryantmeyers · 04-28-2018, 12:04 PM

Nice consolidation of info

... 4 days of driving and about 150 miles, and so far so good with software update.

mad4comp · 04-28-2018, 05:21 PM

Update: Received mine back. Dealer applied the software update overnight, finished about 4pm today. Had 50 miles on the clock. Put another 25 while driving it home, no shutdown, so far. Will update again tomorrow (going for a nice long 50 mile drive tomorrow).

Cacou · 04-28-2018, 09:42 PM

Does anyone have a technical bulletin ID or software revision confirmed that we must be on to avoid this issue?

frankchn · 04-28-2018, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cacou

Does anyone have a technical bulletin ID or software revision confirmed that we must be on to avoid this issue?

Here is the bulletin: http://f90.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...7&postcount=14

Apparently it is fixed in software integration level 18-03-530 or higher.

onfireX5 · 04-29-2018, 08:00 AM

I have 520 and so far no issues at 900 miles.

dk79 · 05-01-2018, 11:58 PM

464 miles 2557 vin
Limp mode twice so far
Today at 75mph on highway
Luckily was able to pull over stopped at shoulder
No power, car got into neutral as soon as I stopped.
Turned off and on problem went away.
But has happened twice now.
Taking to dealer tomorrow.

04-26-2018, 10:59 AM	#1
neohh Lieutenant 168 Rep 454 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	M5 Drivetrain Malfunction Gents Trying to consolidate the list of members that have the drivetrain issues. So far we know: 1. Most car delivered in March or earlier or with VIN # less than 2470 have no issues. 2. A significant portion of April delivery between vin # 2480 to 2713 reported malfunction. The problem started almost right after taking delivery. We will need more new VIN# or production to conclude if this problem has been resolved on newer production. Drivetrain issues reported: User Delivery VIN# Mileage Issue after fix M5Speed Mar/Apr? 2480 500 vtg control m55551111 Apr 2511 20 404NotFound Apr 2538 30 none so far Nocera Apr 2543 400 fmalzoni Apr 2553 DK79 Apr 2557 lectric1e Apr 2566 40 skyjunky Apr 2589 170 mad4comp Apr 2604 none so far bryantmeyers Apr 2611 100 none so far vesko06 Apr 2614 1555 hoffmeister Apr 2617 420 afk8445 Apr 2639 120 mayorsizzle Apr 2641 canderous Apr 2684 sollomon Apr n/a swisstype Apr 2713 new pilotroger n/a n/a n/a sybaek9 Apr 2729 slalomfever Apr 2750 MagicBeast Apr 2752 16 Mporcl Apr 2766 No Issues: User Delivery Vin# Mileage peteratmsr Mar 2085 1200 alpinefrenchfry Mar 2118 1148 rjwtkd Mar 2143 1500 Quickburn7 Mar 2173 1700 Ikdavis Mar 2301 675 Patrick_Bateman Mar 2367 1350 getmetnow Mar 2381 950 elitex Mar 2408 1400 Hill Country F90 Mar 2422 onfireX5 Mar 2470 720 BG23 Mar n/a 1000 Last edited by neohh; 05-20-2018 at 09:27 AM..
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04-26-2018, 01:33 PM	#4
swisstype Twisted Fister 30 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2018 F90 M5; 2024 Roma Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Southwest FL iTrader: (0)	My VIN is 2713
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04-26-2018, 01:59 PM	#5
NaciernoF10 Private First Class 83 Rep 193 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Palm beach , FL iTrader: (0)	Mine is 2660 should be here next week hoping im not stuck in the batch of problems
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04-26-2018, 02:45 PM	#6
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3618 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	I still think it comes down to : Does your Dealership update flash your DME at delivery or not. Mine did. I would request that if you have not picked up your M5 yet as some Dealerships do not.
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04-26-2018, 03:28 PM	#8
lectric1e New Member 12 Rep 14 Posts Drives: 2018 M5, 2016 M3, 2008 Dinan 5 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Home after "530" solution so far so good
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04-26-2018, 11:18 AM	#2
m55551111 New Member 4 Rep 7 Posts Drives: m5 f90 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: toronto iTrader: (0)	great job
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04-26-2018, 04:54 PM	#9
vesko06 Enlisted Member 103 Rep 47 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bulgaria iTrader: (0)	The problem started almost right after taking delivery. VIN 5614 Delivery - April Mileage - 1555
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04-26-2018, 06:01 PM	#10
afk8445 Enlisted Member 22 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 2018 M5 Blk sp Metallic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Houston, Texas iTrader: (0)	VIN 2639 drivetrain malfunction - limp mode @ 55 miles car software updated, transport mode deleted so far car ok @ 120 miles
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04-26-2018, 07:20 PM	#11
M5speed Private First Class 70 Rep 175 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M5 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 Porsche Taycan ... [0.00] 2020 Mclaren 720s [8.50] 2019 Porsche Cayenn ... [0.00]	My drivetrain malfunction issue seems to auto-correct itself after five minutes of being turned off then on again. Based on the timing of it occurring, it seems like after it gets hot for some reason, the computer is telling it to lock in order to protect itself. I have to believe it to be closely related to the break in of the car as Im still under the break in period.
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04-27-2018, 04:28 PM	#12
skyjunky Private 112 Rep 91 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW M5 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Mine just came back from the dealership. They said that there were lots of faults regarding the high-pressure fuel supply being, well, not high-pressure. They corrected it with a software update. This is exactly what others have reported, more evidence pointing to an issue with a specific batch of cars. Given that no-one has reported a repeat of the issue after the software upgrade I’m hoping this bug has really gone for good.
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04-27-2018, 07:31 PM	#13
mad4comp Private 53 Rep 96 Posts Drives: 2018 MBB M5 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northern Virginia iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 BMW M4 [0.00]	VIN: 2603 Delivery Date: 04/14 Mileage: 50 miles. Died while leaving the dealership after picking up/returning some parts. Drivetrain malfunction comes on while picking up speed to reach the 45 mph speed limit. Car stutters, shuts off in the middle of the road. 2 minutes later, restart the car, works fine... like nothing happened. Drove back to the dealer.. fixing it now (software update).
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M5speed Private First Class 70 Rep 175 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M5 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0) Garage List 2020 Porsche Taycan ... [0.00] 2020 Mclaren 720s [8.50] 2019 Porsche Cayenn ... [0.00]	Ive come to be at peace with my malfunctioning fucked up car. I still love it.
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04-27-2018, 10:41 PM	#15
fmalzoni Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: 2018 M5 Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 M5 [0.00]	I had the same problem with about 300 miles and again today with 750 miles. I contacted the dealership the first time and we agreed that if the problem happened again I would send the car ASAP. I took delivery on April 10th. My VIN ends in 2553. I’ll take the car to BMW of Manhattan ASAP and keep you posted.
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04-28-2018, 08:20 AM	#16
neohh Lieutenant 168 Rep 454 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Will need newer car with vin#after 27xx to confirm the issue has been resolved by bmw.
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04-28-2018, 12:04 PM	#17
bryantmeyers Enlisted Member 28 Rep 44 Posts Drives: F90 M5 / 991.1 GT3 /RR Dawn Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Nice consolidation of info ... 4 days of driving and about 150 miles, and so far so good with software update. __________________ 2018 M5 2018 RR Dawn 2014 Porsche GT3
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04-28-2018, 05:21 PM	#18
mad4comp Private 53 Rep 96 Posts Drives: 2018 MBB M5 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northern Virginia iTrader: (1) Garage List 2018 BMW M4 [0.00]	Update: Received mine back. Dealer applied the software update overnight, finished about 4pm today. Had 50 miles on the clock. Put another 25 while driving it home, no shutdown, so far. Will update again tomorrow (going for a nice long 50 mile drive tomorrow).
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Cacou Private 13 Rep 51 Posts Drives: F90 Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Montréal iTrader: (0)	Does anyone have a technical bulletin ID or software revision confirmed that we must be on to avoid this issue?
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04-29-2018, 08:00 AM	#21
onfireX5 Brigadier General 3618 Rep 4,532 Posts Drives: F90M5,F85X5M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Va iTrader: (0)	I have 520 and so far no issues at 900 miles.
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05-01-2018, 11:58 PM	#22
dk79 First Lieutenant 84 Rep 346 Posts Drives: 2018 F90 M5 Marina bay blue Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Gilbert, AZ iTrader: (0)	464 miles 2557 vin Limp mode twice so far Today at 75mph on highway Luckily was able to pull over stopped at shoulder No power, car got into neutral as soon as I stopped. Turned off and on problem went away. But has happened twice now. Taking to dealer tomorrow.
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