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      03-29-2018, 02:37 PM   #1
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Hi guys, i hope this is the right forum, since i hope it's a power related question.

I'm looking for cost effective mods that i can do to my car to turn it into my sweetheart, lol..

Jokes aside, or maybe this is an even bigger joke... does air scoops actually help to force air into your engine?

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You are looking at a massive gain of like .001HP

You know what pushes more air into an engine? A turbo.
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I personally agree that the scoops aren't worth it, but what's with all the 335 guys trolling in here lately?? I don't go into your sub-forums and constantly joke about all of the reliability issues you guys seem to have lol...

OP, if you're looking for cost-effective mods, do some searching and reading around here in this sub-forum. Plenty of info. Start by looking at intake mods: for some time and effort plus $60 you can pick up about 10 or so WHP.
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I personally agree that the scoops aren't worth it, but what's with all the 335 guys trolling in here lately?? I don't go into your sub-forums and constantly joke about all of the reliability issues you guys seem to have lol...

OP, if you're looking for cost-effective mods, do some searching and reading around here in this sub-forum. Plenty of info. Start by looking at intake mods: for some time and effort plus $60 you can pick up about 10 or so WHP.
Not trolling, since I owned a 07 328 many moons ago. It was modded to the gills and the only thing that gave it any extra power was the AA tune and 3 stage intake manifold.

If you think you can gain 10HP from a intake mod than I got a bridge over in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. Only other mod that will give you a few HP is the BMW performance exhaust. I had it on my car as well; I believe BMW site stated it gave an extra 4 or 6HP.
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Scoops look nice if coloured peeking at you through kidneys......and surely they pick up a few up once your moving pretty good.
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I think it was measured to be 2hp at 90mph.
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Not trolling, since I owned a 07 328 many moons ago. It was modded to the gills and the only thing that gave it any extra power was the AA tune and 3 stage intake manifold.

If you think you can gain 10HP from a intake mod than I got a bridge over in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. Only other mod that will give you a few HP is the BMW performance exhaust. I had it on my car as well; I believe BMW site stated it gave an extra 4 or 6HP.
Honestly, one of the biggest gains I had was with the MILVs - I think you boost guys should do it.
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I personally agree that the scoops aren't worth it, but what's with all the 335 guys trolling in here lately?? I don't go into your sub-forums and constantly joke about all of the reliability issues you guys seem to have lol...
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I personally agree that the scoops aren't worth it, but what's with all the 335 guys trolling in here lately?? I don't go into your sub-forums and constantly joke about all of the reliability issues you guys seem to have lol...
ok ill leave
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Not trolling, since I owned a 07 328 many moons ago. It was modded to the gills and the only thing that gave it any extra power was the AA tune and 3 stage intake manifold.

If you think you can gain 10HP from a intake mod than I got a bridge over in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you. Only other mod that will give you a few HP is the BMW performance exhaust. I had it on my car as well; I believe BMW site stated it gave an extra 4 or 6HP.
There is a guy on these forums that changed out the intake muffler to a smooth silicone tube $60 and he put a tube from the bottom of his intake box to the front of his lower grill effectively making a cold air intake out of a piece of shop-vac hose.

Before and after dyno showed about 10% hp Hain at the wheel, and way smoother power delivery throughout. His 2k to 3k power was doubled over unmodded intake. That is a 100% gain in power for the range that my car is commonly accelerating through. His experience has provided valuable insight into what i can expect out of simple modifications.

He also did a charcoal delete mod...

There is plenty people can do to their e90's that isn't expensive to get tangible returns.

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There is a guy in these forums that changed out the intake muffler to a smooth silicone tube $60 and he put a tube from the bottom of his intake box to the front of his lower grill effectively making a cold air intake out of a piece of shop-vac hose.

Before and after dyno showed about 10% hp Hain at the wheel, and way smoother power delive throughoutr. His 2k to 3k power was doubled over unmodded intake. That is a 100% gain in power for the range that my car is commonly accelerating through. His experience has provided valuable insight into what i can expect out of simple modifications.

He also did a charcoal delete mood...

There is plenty people can do to their e90s that isn't expensive to get tangible returns.

Yes i can buy a x3/z4/330i 3 stage intake and pay a wack for AA tune, but that would be pointless without improving my air flow and exhaust and i wanted an 335 and a turbo chew through an engine, I would have bought one.

So Thank you for showing that you do not know. One thing in wounding why you decided to post at all.
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There is a guy in these forums that changed out the intake muffler to a smooth silicone tube $60 and he put a tube from the bottom of his intake box to the front of his lower grill effectively making a cold air intake out of a piece of shop-vac hose.

Before and after dyno showed about 10% hp Hain at the wheel, and way smoother power delive throughoutr. His 2k to 3k power was doubled over unmodded intake. That is a 100% gain in power for the range that my car is commonly accelerating through. His experience has provided valuable insight into what i can expect out of simple modifications.

He also did a charcoal delete mood...

There is plenty people can do to their e90s that isn't expensive to get tangible returns.

Yes i can buy a x3/z4/330i 3 stage intake and pay a wack for AA tune, but that would be pointless without improving my air flow and exhaust and i wanted an 335 and a turbo chew through an engine, I would have bought one.

So Thank you for showing that you do not know. One thing in wounding why you decided to post at all.
I bought an 07 328 in August of 07. I started tuning it in 09, which is what brought me to this forum. This topic has been beaten to death. We already covered that an intake alone won't do jack shit for your car. Let's begin with the fact that you don't know what a cold air intake even is. Your car is ALREADY equipped with a very efficient CAI. If you got money to burn then go with a performance intake or a Euro intake box; simply for the fact that they are easier to take apart when you have to replace the filter.

Sorry that you are not getting the answers here that YOU want to hear. Given the fact that my 328 was tuned and I did a lot of the work myself means that I probably know a lot more than you do when it comes to this topic. The fact that you would come here and tell us that you can gain 10% HP at the wheels from some piping is utterly hilarious; I mean that's like what a gain of about 20HP. Dude you are seriously delusional.
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There is a guy in these forums that changed out the intake muffler to a smooth silicone tube $60 and he put a tube from the bottom of his intake box to the front of his lower grill effectively making a cold air intake out of a piece of shop-vac hose.

Before and after dyno showed about 10% hp Hain at the wheel, and way smoother power delive throughoutr. His 2k to 3k power was doubled over unmodded intake. That is a 100% gain in power for the range that my car is commonly accelerating through. His experience has provided valuable insight into what i can expect out of simple modifications.

He also did a charcoal delete mood...

There is plenty people can do to their e90s that isn't expensive to get tangible returns.

Yes i can buy a x3/z4/330i 3 stage intake and pay a wack for AA tune, but that would be pointless without improving my air flow and exhaust and i wanted an 335 and a turbo chew through an engine, I would have bought one.

So Thank you for showing that you do not know. One thing in wounding why you decided to post at all.
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There is a guy in these forums that changed out the intake muffler to a smooth silicone tube $60 and he put a tube from the bottom of his intake box to the front of his lower grill effectively making a cold air intake out of a piece of shop-vac hose.

Before and after dyno showed about 10% hp Hain at the wheel, and way smoother power delive throughoutr. His 2k to 3k power was doubled over unmodded intake. That is a 100% gain in power for the range that my car is commonly accelerating through. His experience has provided valuable insight into what i can expect out of simple modifications.

He also did a charcoal delete mood...

There is plenty people can do to their e90s that isn't expensive to get tangible returns.

Yes i can buy a x3/z4/330i 3 stage intake and pay a wack for AA tune, but that would be pointless without improving my air flow and exhaust and i wanted an 335 and a turbo chew through an engine, I would have bought one.

So Thank you for showing that you do not know. One thing in wounding why you decided to post at all.
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Was it over when Germany bombed Pearl Harbor?! </belushi>

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His turbos are starving apparently.
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Yes i can buy a x3/z4/330i 3 stage intake and pay a wack for AA tune, but that would be pointless without improving my air flow and exhaust and i wanted an 335 and a turbo chew through an engine, I would have bought one.
No, you don't need to upgrade a bunch of other stuff for a 3 stage to work. the 330i is almost completely identical to the 328i, yet it makes ~30 more hp with just the 3-stage manifold and stock 330i tune. You don't need an AA tune either, unless you want the extra 5hp..
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I bought an 07 328 in August of 07. I started tuning it in 09, which is what brought me to this forum. This topic has been beaten to death. We already covered that an intake alone won't do jack shit for your car. Let's begin with the fact that you don't know what a cold air intake even is. Your car is ALREADY equipped with a very efficient CAI. If you got money to burn then go with a performance intake or a Euro intake box; simply for the fact that they are easier to take apart when you have to replace the filter.

Sorry that you are not getting the answers here that YOU want to hear. Given the fact that my 328 was tuned and I did a lot of the work myself means that I probably know a lot more than you do when it comes to this topic. The fact that you would come here and tell us that you can gain 10% HP at the wheels from some piping is utterly hilarious; I mean that's like what a gain of about 20HP. Dude you are seriously delusional.
I'm just asking questions. I spend the majority of my work day down time on theses forums learning about my new car and asking questions when i have obvious gaps in knowledge. I've not come across air scoops I The weeks so i asked The question.

Btw, The dyno charts I'm talking about are located on the forums e90 mods section. And pictures are provided. It isn't my fantasy bro.

The mods i mentioned were the Smooth silicone pipe, air from below the radiator and charcoal filter delete. Did you want me to go find the thread for you?

I really don't get how someone as wise as you is so sour. There has to be a better way.

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No, you don't need to upgrade a bunch of other stuff for a 3 stage to work. the 330i is almost completely identical to the 328i, yet it makes ~30 more hp with just the 3-stage manifold and stock 330i tune. You don't need an AA tune either, unless you want the extra 5hp..
Are you saying the 3 stage manifold with stock intake offers the same gains as it would bring paired to the euro intake (Charcoal cooler delete)?

I know I getting the bmw pe exhaust for sure. I hope to alleviate any flow contains worth that beautifully sounding upgrade.

Thanks for your comment.

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Simplyb put, this is what my pre purchase research turned up.

It seems turbo cars put more than enough strain on the engines to give them a reputation of being less reliable then naturally aspirated 328.

I've no personal experience on this matter.
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