N63 White Smoke Upon Start Up

krautmeister · 09-21-2017, 05:11 PM

Decent cloud of smoke on start up... goosed the throttle, went away. Thoughts fellas???

Bmw doubles · 09-23-2017, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by krautmeister

Decent cloud of smoke on start up... goosed the throttle, went away. Thoughts fellas???

How many miles on the turbo?

BigKutta · 09-23-2017, 10:47 AM

I get this on my N20 if car has been parked for 2 or more days.

SLVSRFR · 09-23-2017, 12:09 PM

My brand new replacement N63 installed by BMW as well as turbos with 8k miles on them do this every morning.

Dealer said its condensation in the exhaust so I'm not worried about it. This is my 2nd engine, what's the worst that can happen with this car now.

krautmeister · 09-23-2017, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by krautmeister

Decent cloud of smoke on start up... goosed the throttle, went away. Thoughts fellas???

How many miles on the turbo?

The car just turned 53k

krautmeister · 09-23-2017, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SLVSRFR

My brand new replacement N63 installed by BMW as well as turbos with 8k miles on them do this every morning.

Dealer said its condensation in the exhaust so I'm not worried about it. This is my 2nd engine, what's the worst that can happen with this car now.

I'm certain it's not condensation. It's definitely white smoke and it lingers around... I wonder if the oil that my car "consumes" if it's sitting in the turbos and getting burned upon start up?

SLVSRFR · 09-23-2017, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by krautmeister

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Originally Posted by SLVSRFR

My brand new replacement N63 installed by BMW as well as turbos with 8k miles on them do this every morning.

Dealer said its condensation in the exhaust so I'm not worried about it. This is my 2nd engine, what's the worst that can happen with this car now.

I'm certain it's not condensation. It's definitely white smoke and it lingers around... I wonder if the oil that my car "consumes" if it's sitting in the turbos and getting burned upon start up?

Well it's definitely not oil if the smoke is truly white.....

Oil has a blue tint to it.
Fuel burns black.

White smoke = Coolant or water and they don't burn differently than the other.

If you're that worried about it, take it to get diagnosed and have your turbo seals checked.

Next time it happens, look to see if the smoke has a light blue tint to it, Valve Stem Seals are notorious for going bad.

lsturbointeg · 09-24-2017, 07:43 AM

White smoke definitely coolant. Take a look in your coolant reservoir and see if it's milky. If it is than you got a blown head gasket. I know on the turbo side of things it could be the turbos?

krautmeister · 09-27-2017, 05:39 PM

Can anyone confirm that CCP covers valve stem seals? Are they considered "wear" items I wonder??

BlackWidow · 09-28-2017, 01:02 PM

CCP doesn’t cover valve seals.

krautmeister · 09-28-2017, 06:24 PM

The smoke is whitish gray/blue tint. It was really heavy tonight after sitting all day at the office. It has a sharp smell to it, chemical, but not sweet like coolant. Maybe burnt coolant?

It dissipates mostly after the cold start mode where the engine settles to a lower idle and it sounds like the valve chatter gets quieter.

http://sendvid.com/feb7li0c

BlackWidow · 09-28-2017, 07:44 PM

I’m betting it’s your CCV. Your valve stem seals are probably on their way out but still doing their job. When those go bad you notice smoke at a long light while you pull off, you’ll see it.

The only way you’re going to know is by taking it to get it looked at, it could be a variety of things or a combination of things. CCV is a common failure on BMW’s and they cause this exact issue, I think it was covered under CCP too

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krautmeister krrrraaauuuuut 178 Rep 524 Posts Drives: G12 750i X Drive M-Sport Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0) Garage List G12 750i [0.00]	The smoke is whitish gray/blue tint. It was really heavy tonight after sitting all day at the office. It has a sharp smell to it, chemical, but not sweet like coolant. Maybe burnt coolant? It dissipates mostly after the cold start mode where the engine settles to a lower idle and it sounds like the valve chatter gets quieter. http://sendvid.com/feb7li0c __________________ (Current) G12 750i X Drive / M-Sport / LOADED (Current) 997 Turbo / 6MT / HRE FF01, Land Rover LR3 - Overlanding Family Adventure Shed, E60 525i - "family beater", Alfa Romeo Spyder Veloce - garage art (Gone) F10 550i / M-Sport, D2 Audi S8, AP1 S2000, Z32 300zx, S13 240sx
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BlackWidow First Lieutenant 49 Rep 317 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Orange County/San Diego iTrader: (1)	I’m betting it’s your CCV. Your valve stem seals are probably on their way out but still doing their job. When those go bad you notice smoke at a long light while you pull off, you’ll see it. The only way you’re going to know is by taking it to get it looked at, it could be a variety of things or a combination of things. CCV is a common failure on BMW’s and they cause this exact issue, I think it was covered under CCP too
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