Charge pipe coating

Madnking · 08-25-2017, 06:50 PM

I removed my after market charge pipe and the powder coating on the inside is failing. Flaking away about a 3 inch spot. I am worried about it getting into the engine? thanks

AM330i · 08-25-2017, 07:14 PM

What charge pipe do you have. there shouldn't be any paint on the inside. I would never install one that has been painted on the inside for this exact reason. I would contact whoever you purchased it from or the manufacturer and let them know what's going on. It shouldn't destroy your engine but it is still a concern.

Madnking · 08-25-2017, 07:26 PM

its a BMS charge pipe its looks to be powder coated inside and out.

Madnking · 08-25-2017, 08:06 PM

emailed BMS waiting on a response.

racermp · 08-25-2017, 08:40 PM

Take pics

lordbmw · 08-25-2017, 08:49 PM

Is it the Phoenix Racing chargepipe or is it the more expensive CPE chargepipe?

BMS sells both.

I have the CPE chargepipe (from BMS). If you spent around $200, you have the CPE chargepipe.

Madnking · 08-25-2017, 08:50 PM

cpe I paid 239.00.

jeddo45 · 08-25-2017, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Madnking

I removed my after market charge pipe and the powder coating on the inside is failing. Flaking away about a 3 inch spot. I am worried about it getting into the engine? thanks

OP how did you know to remove the charge pipe? Was your engine acting up or you just happened to take off the pipe and noticed this flaking?

Like others have suggested I'd take pics. This would be incredibly helpful for the community especially to those who have the same pipe.

Madnking · 08-26-2017, 08:16 PM

ill get some pics tomorrow. I was just checking the oring. CPE emailed me and said it was just residue from over spray and it would burn up in the engine. It doesn't look like some overspray the inside of the pipe is just like the outside and the chips coming off are max. 3/16 big. I hope they just did burn up.

Madnking · 08-27-2017, 10:30 AM

heres a pic. this is the worst spot around the sensor it bubbled bad as well about to fail. should these flakes burn up in the engine? Cause damage? thanks

Madnking · 08-27-2017, 10:32 AM

Cpe offered to send me RMA clean out the inside and send it back to me. I think I should as for a new one then send this one back I'm already without a car I don't have the stock downpipe to send it to them and wait for it to return would take too long.

jeddo45 · 08-27-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Madnking

Cpe offered to send me RMA clean out the inside and send it back to me. I think I should as for a new one then send this one back I'm already without a car I don't have the stock downpipe to send it to them and wait for it to return would take too long.

Yeah OP there is something clearly wrong with this one. I wouldn't take it back. As matter of fact if I'm the manufacturer I would want to give you a new one. The junk ended up in your throttle body which is not good.

Truthfully if they can't send you a non-coated charge pipe I'd get a completely different brand and avoid this one.

mike@x-ph.com · 08-28-2017, 07:16 PM

Let us know what you decide to do

lordbmw · 08-28-2017, 07:48 PM

I don't remember a coating on mine. I'm not going to take mine off to check though.

Madnking · 08-29-2017, 05:07 PM

this is what I sent them today:
I have unsuccessfully tried to resolve this matter of the powder coat flaking on the interior of my Cp-e charge pipe. Cp-e has admitted there may be a light dusting of powder coat on the inside of the pipe. I have a very thick layer of powder coating on the inside of the pipe that failed in more than one location and entered into my throttle body, valve area, and then the engine. I have not re installed the charge pipe and my car has been inoperable since Saturday August 26th, 2017. Cp-e has offered me a RMA# to clean the pipe and ship it back to me. This is unacceptable to believe I should shoulder the shipping process, shipping cost, and the inconvenience of borrowing a vehicle. Soon I may need to rent a vehicle I borrowed one thinking this wouldn’t be such a process. All I asked for was to please ship me a charge pipe with a return shipping label. This request has been ignored and then denied. Denied over a Cp-e cost of $50 to $75 char pipe. This would expedite getting back into my vehicle. I know have two solutions:

1. Pay the local machine shop $65.00 to clean my charge pipe and forget about trying to receive quality customer service. Never recommending that anyone in the BMW community purchase Cp-e products.

2. I have been in contact the local BMW service manager and have been advised on the following. Throttle body cleaning and inspection, valve cleaning and inspection, a leak down test, and cylinder compression testing. I would have to rent a car for transportation and have my car towed to BMW for the service. I am not willing to incur all of these cost when the problems lies with the improperly manufactured Cp-e charge pipe. I have contacted Visa in hopes of charging back the cost of the charge pipe, but was informed it would have to be the entire cost of the order from Burger Motorsports. BMS would then invoice the remaining products on the invoice to be repaid in full. I have had initial phone conversations with my lawyer.

I hope it doesn’t need to turn down this road, but it is ridiculous I could not get a $100 charge pipe sent to me. Feel free to call. (302)249-1226

Sincerely

Lawrence D. Hileman
HIBH, llc.

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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	Charge pipe coating I removed my after market charge pipe and the powder coating on the inside is failing. Flaking away about a 3 inch spot. I am worried about it getting into the engine? thanks
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AM330i First Lieutenant 90 Rep 386 Posts Drives: 08 535xi 11 328xi Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Rochester, NY iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 BMW M440 [0.00]	What charge pipe do you have. there shouldn't be any paint on the inside. I would never install one that has been painted on the inside for this exact reason. I would contact whoever you purchased it from or the manufacturer and let them know what's going on. It shouldn't destroy your engine but it is still a concern. __________________ Jb4/MHd BEF, XHD Stage 3 DCI, FTP Charge Pipe
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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	its a BMS charge pipe its looks to be powder coated inside and out.
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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	emailed BMS waiting on a response.
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lordbmw Captain 270 Rep 790 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 335xi Coupe (AT) Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Alexandria, VA iTrader: (0)	Is it the Phoenix Racing chargepipe or is it the more expensive CPE chargepipe? BMS sells both. I have the CPE chargepipe (from BMS). If you spent around $200, you have the CPE chargepipe.
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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	cpe I paid 239.00.
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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	ill get some pics tomorrow. I was just checking the oring. CPE emailed me and said it was just residue from over spray and it would burn up in the engine. It doesn't look like some overspray the inside of the pipe is just like the outside and the chips coming off are max. 3/16 big. I hope they just did burn up.
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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	heres a pic. this is the worst spot around the sensor it bubbled bad as well about to fail. should these flakes burn up in the engine? Cause damage? thanks Attached Images
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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	Cpe offered to send me RMA clean out the inside and send it back to me. I think I should as for a new one then send this one back I'm already without a car I don't have the stock downpipe to send it to them and wait for it to return would take too long.
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Madnking Private 12 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 2012 335i coupes Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Lower Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M6 Gran C ... [0.00]	this is what I sent them today: I have unsuccessfully tried to resolve this matter of the powder coat flaking on the interior of my Cp-e charge pipe. Cp-e has admitted there may be a light dusting of powder coat on the inside of the pipe. I have a very thick layer of powder coating on the inside of the pipe that failed in more than one location and entered into my throttle body, valve area, and then the engine. I have not re installed the charge pipe and my car has been inoperable since Saturday August 26th, 2017. Cp-e has offered me a RMA# to clean the pipe and ship it back to me. This is unacceptable to believe I should shoulder the shipping process, shipping cost, and the inconvenience of borrowing a vehicle. Soon I may need to rent a vehicle I borrowed one thinking this wouldn’t be such a process. All I asked for was to please ship me a charge pipe with a return shipping label. This request has been ignored and then denied. Denied over a Cp-e cost of $50 to $75 char pipe. This would expedite getting back into my vehicle. I know have two solutions: 1. Pay the local machine shop $65.00 to clean my charge pipe and forget about trying to receive quality customer service. Never recommending that anyone in the BMW community purchase Cp-e products. 2. I have been in contact the local BMW service manager and have been advised on the following. Throttle body cleaning and inspection, valve cleaning and inspection, a leak down test, and cylinder compression testing. I would have to rent a car for transportation and have my car towed to BMW for the service. I am not willing to incur all of these cost when the problems lies with the improperly manufactured Cp-e charge pipe. I have contacted Visa in hopes of charging back the cost of the charge pipe, but was informed it would have to be the entire cost of the order from Burger Motorsports. BMS would then invoice the remaining products on the invoice to be repaid in full. I have had initial phone conversations with my lawyer. I hope it doesn’t need to turn down this road, but it is ridiculous I could not get a $100 charge pipe sent to me. Feel free to call. (302)249-1226 Sincerely Lawrence D. Hileman HIBH, llc.
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