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      05-24-2017, 01:22 AM   #1
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Notes and details from seeing F90 M5 live at BMW M Discovery Room event in Belgium

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Last night (May 23, 2017) BMW M Belux (Belgium + Luxembourg) organized an event in a warehouse, mainly celebrating the launch of the all-new "BMW M League" (loyalty program for BMW M customers).

Hundreds of BMW M cars attended the event. Pump & stance: DJ playing dance music, speeches, dancers, meet 'n greet with an actor and a DJ, M cars doing donuts in a controlled environment (filmed with a drone), food and drinks, present bags, etc. Yeah, we were spoiled by BMW M.

As a bonus, BMW M had sent over a blue F90 M5 from Garching. It was on full display in a well-lit "discovery room". Prior to accessing the room, visitors were required to put their smartphones into a pouch. Security closely supervised that no-one took pictures inside that room. Of course we respected that. Visitors were allowed a lot of freedom: you could open the bonnet, open the boot, sit inside the car (front and rear seats), toy with the iDrive, touch the car, etc. No engine sound though.

No VIN on the windscreen visible (black blank). However, as visitors were allowed to take a look under the hood, I checked the VIN stamped inside the engine bay as soon as the hood was opened by someone, and memorized it: WBSJF01010G499957. When you run that VIN through a BMW Decoder, you get the specs shown below.

What BMW M officially said during the event about the F90 M5:
  • exclusive F90 M5 avant-premire (early sneak preview, as the official market release is not scheduled this year)
  • 0-100 km/h (0-62mph): less than 3.5 seconds
  • power: 600 hp (that info is confirmed by the 441 kW figure in the VIN specs = 599.6hp [metric hp] or 591.4 hp [mech hp])
  • torque: 700 Nm
  • M xDrive - choice to toggle between 2-wheel drive / 4-wheel drive in the iDrive settings (see also the dedicated thread here and the M xDrive 'Jumping Jack' BMW commercial here) (by the way, also another "Where Too Much Is Just Right" future BMW M commercial was shown featuring a child 'teased' by an adult driving an M car).
What I remember to have seen:

- Exterior:
  • Marina Bay Blue Metallic body color (C1K)
  • full leather Merino/Silverstone upholstery (X3A9)
  • two tone 20" wheels (black/silver) (706M wheels) with massive yellow carbon ceramic brakes and huge brake discs
  • all-new Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires - 20" - 275/35 front and 295/35 rear
  • double-bubble carbon fiber roof
  • LED adaptive head lights with the new open coronas design rolled out to all latest models + 'connecting' towards the kidneys
  • rear lights with the 'swing' design rolled out to all latest models
  • small side gills la M3/M4
  • black kidneys
  • diffuser next to the chrome quad pipe exhaust (exhaust tips with a vertical cut la 1M/M2/M6 - no diagonal cut la M3/M4/X5M/X6M)
  • rectangular fuel cover lid (no circular one as on the M2)
  • vertical red reflectors on the rear la X5M/X6M (broader and shorter than those of the M2)
  • chunky M side mirrors with the classic upper stalk
  • typical discreet M Gurney flap on the trunk
  • quick peak under the car: noticed nothing peculiar as far as I could see (limited slip differential housing/cast visible of course).
- Inside:
  • some will say 'lavish' interior - others may say 'busy'
  • full digital instrument cluster (optional) - 4 meters and drive mode info on the top part - V-max speedometer: 330 km/h
  • broad SATNAV screen
  • red/bordeaux start/stop button
  • small red/bordeaux M1 and M2 paddles for personal settings (connected to the top part of the steering wheel, rather than integrated as buttons inside the steering wheel)
  • front interior featured some shiny grey trim, likely some smooth dry carbon (neither open-pore CF used inside the M2, nor the 'wet' CF used inside the M3/M4)
  • chunky leather M steering wheel (no 12h marker)
  • tiny discreet mud flaps (grey/black plastic) mounted on the top part of the rear wheel wells
  • sensors on the lower part of the front intake (bumper) and, except if mistaken, also an eye between the kidneys (apart from the 'Connecteddrive' on the top part of the windscreen)
  • 'complex' 8-speed M Steptronic gear stick
  • cup holders section covered with a sliding curtain
  • M5 logo lights up inside the top part of the sports seats + inside the entry door sills ( la M3/M4)
  • no strut brace la M3/M4 inside the engine bay (4.4 litre S63M engine) - rather small braces la M2
  • hood: I don't believe to remember a powerdome - didn't pay attention to that
As I ain't familiar with the F10 M5, I won't be of big help in answering detailed questions you may likely have. Have to go by my memory, and the time spent with the car was limited (though you were allowed to stay as long as you wanted). For sure I forgot to check a lot. Sorry for letting you down.

The 'discovery room' was surrounded by black curtains. The ceiling was some sort of black veil. However, once you walked upstairs inside the warehouse (where the demonstration of M cars doing donuts had taken place), you could look down onto the discovery room, vaguely noticing the shape of the F90 M5 through the black ceiling veil because of the lighting spots. Almost impossible to decently photograph in the dark, slightly peeking 'through' the black veil ceiling. Gave it a humble try though (see below).


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View from the upper floor when looking down onto the "discovery room" (vaguely showing the car through the black veil ceiling):
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EDIT 1: Couple more photos posted by GregD below:



EDIT 2: the CAD renders that surfaced in October 2016 (source: see here) have a pretty striking similarity to what I recall having witnessed (though - alike several renders - the M2/M235i style side mirrors are inaccurate - the car on display featured the modern M design cue of the 'upper stubby/stalk'; those looked more robust, less elegant, than previous M side mirror designs):

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      05-24-2017, 01:33 AM   #2
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Awesome post, thank you!

Any idea on how wide the wheels are? Also I saw that in all of the other info posted it was 275/35 and 285/35, but you've got 275/35 and 295/35, can you confirm?
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      05-24-2017, 01:45 AM   #3
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Awesome post, thank you!
Any idea on how wide the wheels are? Also I saw that in all of the other info posted it was 275/35 and 285/35, but you've got 275/35 and 295/35, can you confirm?
Took a closer look at the tires to find out whether it was still running PSS or already featured the Michelin PS4S.

As indicated: 275/35 20" front and 295/35 20" rear was indicated on the PS4S of the F90 M5 on display.
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      05-24-2017, 02:21 AM   #4
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Not the most detailed pictures but someone managed to sneak a camera past security .. (not me FYI)


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Great memory with that Vin #. Way to go.
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      05-24-2017, 02:54 AM   #6
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Fantastic post !!! Kudos for remembering the VIN
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      05-24-2017, 07:57 AM   #7
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Damn, THANK YOU for that post.
Nice to see the Ceramic embellishers.

I checked a few other VINs. They will offer a few nice things with this car:

1MD M Carbon Engine Cover
4GQ M Seat Belts
1MA M Sports Exhaust System

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      05-24-2017, 09:01 AM   #8
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Not the most detailed pictures but someone managed to sneak a camera past security .. (not me FYI)


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Where did you get the pictures from, GregD?
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Not the most detailed pictures but someone managed to sneak a camera past security .. (not me FYI)
Attachment 1627986 Attachment 1627987
  • the top view picture you posted: yes, that's what I also saw from the upper floor when looking down on the "discovery room"; if BMW would have hung a second veil right above or under the black ceiling veil, almost nothing could have been seen from upstairs;
  • the head light picture you posted: BMW instructed to refrain from taking photographs inside the "discovery room"; I respected that, so my smartphone stayed inside its pouch offered by BMW - just used my own senses.
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Hi - and thank you for posting all of this information. You were very fortunate to attend such a great event and get a preview of an unreleased product.

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  • LED adaptive head lights with the new open coronas design rolled out to all latest models + 'connecting' towards the kidneys
  • rear lights with the 'swing' design rolled out to all latest models
Can you clarify whether these are identical to the lights available on the G30? I ask because M-specific lights would be a new feature and one that I would not expect given the limited value they would provide vs. just borrowing the series part. Yes, the M4 GTS (and soon the M4 CS) feature unique OLED lights, but these are limited models, and the unique lights are something of a special case. M Division offering M specific lights - especially both front and rear - for all M5 would be a very unexpected move.
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Any chance at describing the Marina Bay Blue color as it relates to other BMW blues?
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Nice work!!!

Man you should look into a career with MI6! Haha!

Excellent info! Interesting to hear your description of the rear bumper with the vertical reflectors and the design of the side grilles. Now to just wait for the official unveiling.

I will ask in your estimation how close was the actual car to the leaked CAD images from a little while ago?
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Any chance at describing the Marina Bay Blue color as it relates to other BMW blues?
Pretty sure they teased it in the G30 press release photos.

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Good stuff but more importantly, will the M2 CS come with a manual option?
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Any chance at describing the Marina Bay Blue color as it relates to other BMW blues?
http://g30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1353309



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Pretty sure they teased it in the G30 press release photos.
This is probably Marina Bay, but it is impossible to know for sure. Also, this could be pre-clear coat, or even missing other base coats, potentially, if it is a multi-layer paint (which I admittedly have no idea one way or the other).
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[*]red/bordeaux start/stop button [*]small red/bordeaux M1 and M2 paddles for personal settings (connected to the top part of the steering wheel, rather than integrated as buttons inside the steering wheel)
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As expected, new M1 and M2 buttons at thumbs reach mounted separately from the usual steering wheel button clusters. And there seems to be some red on them, might it be that they are actually red but camouflaged into black on the test car? In which case the engine start button might also be red (hence why it is covered?), but maybe that would be too extreme for a super saloon

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441 power = ? kw? if so that means 590-591 hp
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I bet some photos will get leaked of the car just like the F10 was leaked....
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Is the steering wheel the same as on the current M cars?
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Can't wait to see the whole damn thang!
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441 power = ? kw? if so that means 590-591 hp
Yes, KW's. BMW has said the new M5 will have 600 PS, that's about 590 SAE HP. BMW also has said the car will have over 700 Nm of tq. So that's around 516 ft/lbs.

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