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      04-02-2017, 08:47 AM   #1
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B58 Turner Power Module, 91hp, 96ft-lb?

Has anyone to heard of or seen this? Or is it a left over April Fools joke?

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-3...-kit/?pdk=AgEB
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I call Even if they mean at the crank I don't see it.
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Looks unrealistic to me. I was considering it before too but chose the right path with JB4 👍
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The description is similar to the Active 8. Re-seller?
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The description is similar to the Active 8. Re-seller?
The ECU housings are different but the internals can be the same. The torque is about the same as the AA8 but the HP? I'm not sure how they can claim +91 hp on 91 octane, thats 410 hp.

If this was legit we would have had a sticky by now.
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The ECU housings are different but the internals can be the same. The torque is about the same as the AA8 but the HP? I'm not sure how they can claim +91 hp on 91 octane, thats 410 hp.

If this was legit we would have had a sticky by now.
Look at the installation instructions. It looks like a re-seller of AA8.
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Look at the installation instructions. It looks like a re-seller of AA8.
Thing is AA8 claims +60hp, this one +91hp.
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Thing is AA8 claims +60hp, this one +91hp.
I called and they said it is the same hardware but they are providing the map for it.
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I called and they said it is the same hardware but they are providing the map for it.
Thanks.

So they are standing by their claim +90hp and +90tq, hmmm. What have they found that JB, AA 8, Dinan, etc. hasn't?

Now to find someone who's been using this.
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So they are standing by their claim +90hp and +90tq, hmmm. What have they found that JB, AA 8, Dinan, etc. hasn't?
Let me guess... they are assuming a "baseline" of 320 engine HP. 411 engine HP is ~ 360 HP to wheels, which is in the realm as other piggybacks. If this is indeed the case, they won't be getting my money due to their scammy ways of playing with numbers.
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Look at the installation instructions. It looks like a re-seller of AA8.
Thing is AA8 claims +60hp, this one +91hp.
This is why I said b.s. Even if AA is providing the map something is not adding up. I doubt you will reach there claimed numbers on a stock B58.
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They should provide before and after dyno sheets. I will reserve judgement until then
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I couldn't help myself and I called also.

Unfortunately I wasn't reassured by the guy I spoke to but.............. he says that the figures given are Crank numbers. I also asked if there was a lot of interest from the B58 guys and got a bs answer, this is where he lost me.

I will pass on this product for now.
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They said to me that the hardware is made by a 3rd party and they were providing the map and that A8 was using the 3rd party hardware.
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If this new box is achieving that kind of output its likely pushing 19+psi if compared to active-8 no?
either that or its just marketing
the instruction steps do look similar the pics are different
thingy about keeping the doors closed same
both have 91 and 93 maps as a fixed buy option whereas JB4 can switcheroo
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411 crank horsepower is realistic. That's 350ish wheel horsepower. What isn't realistic is claiming that this thing makes 91hp gains, since stock 340's make a lot more than the claimed 320hp.

It's shady-ish marketing....not too dissimilar to how DINAN makes HP claims.
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All of our active-8 maps are created on our in house dyno. While the units looks the same I can assure you the maps are not.
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