Stonger coils?

gunnerxq · 12-19-2016, 10:38 AM

Bavauto advertises stonger coils that would help increase power and help fuel economy. Is there any merit to this claim? I know aftermarket spark plugs were duds.

Part# 5005 6

hassmaschine · 12-19-2016, 10:43 AM

Its 100% BS.

WatashiEd · 12-20-2016, 03:20 AM

Bavauto has been reported many times makes no difference to a healthy set of bremi's; however, serious stronger coils like okada plasma project has been dyno'd with real hp gain many times

rookieoftheyr90 · 12-20-2016, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatashiEd

Bavauto has been reported many times makes no difference to a healthy set of bremi's; however, serious stronger coils like okada plasma project has been dyno'd with real hp gain many times

^any more info on this? These coils seem pricey, but I wouldn't be opposed if their was proof to back the performance/reliability.

9krpmrx8 · 12-20-2016, 10:06 AM

I have experience with the Okada coils on the BMW's but they make coils for the Mazda RX-8 with similar claims and they don't do jack shit for performance and fail just as quickly as the stock coils so I assume they are no better on BMW's.

matteblue3er · 12-20-2016, 02:55 PM

Better spark plugs, maybe. Better coils, never.

mike-y · 12-20-2016, 06:18 PM

modern ignition systems are quite good. The only way you are going to make any noticeable improvement with coils and spark plugs is if your current setup is in bad condition and/or not functioning correctly.

A set of fresh plugs with the proper gap with good working coils is all you are going to need on an N52.

When I worked at a dyno shop, some sales dude came in with these fancy spark plugs (with 4 tips), claiming they make 5-10hp and we should sell them in our shop. Pulled my car up to the dyno and did 2 pulls. swapped out the stock plugs, and put in his fancy expensive brand and did 2 more pulls.

Absolutely no difference. Maybe a 1hp loss with the fancy plugs. The look on his face was priceless. We handed him back his spark plugs and he left without saying anything else.

never saw that man again lol

Sd335i2007 · 12-20-2016, 06:29 PM

I purchased these for my n54. I felt zero difference from my OEM coils. But, so far they've been holding up with my mods.

Eagle1oh7 · 12-20-2016, 07:53 PM

Anybody have any experience with AA's coils? They're the plasma type too.

hassmaschine · 12-20-2016, 08:14 PM

Plasma coils are BS too. You're not going to see big gains from slight changes in spark energy. And none of these coils account for any tuning chages like dwell times and voltage, which no tuners address.

WatashiEd · 12-21-2016, 02:31 AM

Depends, agree though for N/A n52 I think Okada/OP plasma project is an overkill, but for n54/n55 or those who is going F.I. route for their n52 mistress, improved spark energy yields improved ignition and greater combustion efficiency for those running high boost.

Quick search on Okada review
http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...gnition-coils/

Myth buster: LSX has proven on more than one occasion that coil upgrades do provide performance benefits including increased power you can see on the dyno
http://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/i...one-take-form/

12-19-2016, 10:38 AM	#1
gunnerxq Lieutenant Colonel 213 Rep 1,782 Posts Drives: e90 "325i" Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: New York iTrader: (1)	Stonger coils? Bavauto advertises stonger coils that would help increase power and help fuel economy. Is there any merit to this claim? I know aftermarket spark plugs were duds. Part# 5005 6 __________________ Koni special active red, eibach pro-kit springs, Remus exhaust, stage 3 intake manifold,Stage 2 AA tune, BMW Short shift kit. Silicon intake pipe. M3 control arms front, M3 rear. ECS trailing arm with whiteline bushings. Purple powerflex subframe bushings. Yellow power flex upper shock mounts. Single mass flywheel OE weight.
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hassmaschine Major General 3973 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	Its 100% BS.
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WatashiEd Second Lieutenant 29 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 2015 F82 M4 DCT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Bavauto has been reported many times makes no difference to a healthy set of bremi's; however, serious stronger coils like okada plasma project has been dyno'd with real hp gain many times __________________ Sapphire Black M4 \| iPE - Valvetronic exhaust \| VRSF 3″ catless dp \| Bootmod 3 Stage 2 \| OEM LED alcantara steering wheel \| OEM M4 GTS CF hood \| Vorsteiner GT wing \| M Performance CF splitter \| Vorsteiner CF front lip \| M Performance CF side skirt extension \| 3D CF diffuser \| OEM CF mirror cap \| H&R lower spring \| Rays Engineering TE37 Ultra Bronze 20x10F 20x11R
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9krpmrx8 Clean is the new cool, keep it that way. 808 Rep 1,685 Posts Drives: 11' Alpine White 335i Sedan Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0)	I have experience with the Okada coils on the BMW's but they make coils for the Mazda RX-8 with similar claims and they don't do jack shit for performance and fail just as quickly as the stock coils so I assume they are no better on BMW's. Last edited by 9krpmrx8; 12-20-2016 at 03:25 PM..
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matteblue3er Captain 238 Rep 947 Posts Drives: Racecar Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Philly iTrader: (0)	Better spark plugs, maybe. Better coils, never.
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mike-y just another bmw douche bag 195 Rep 3,640 Posts Drives: 1.9L of fury Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (4)	modern ignition systems are quite good. The only way you are going to make any noticeable improvement with coils and spark plugs is if your current setup is in bad condition and/or not functioning correctly. A set of fresh plugs with the proper gap with good working coils is all you are going to need on an N52. When I worked at a dyno shop, some sales dude came in with these fancy spark plugs (with 4 tips), claiming they make 5-10hp and we should sell them in our shop. Pulled my car up to the dyno and did 2 pulls. swapped out the stock plugs, and put in his fancy expensive brand and did 2 more pulls. Absolutely no difference. Maybe a 1hp loss with the fancy plugs. The look on his face was priceless. We handed him back his spark plugs and he left without saying anything else. never saw that man again lol
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Sd335i2007 Lieutenant 172 Rep 496 Posts Drives: E90/F80/E70 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: SanDiego iTrader: (3) Garage List [10.00]	Coils I purchased these for my n54. I felt zero difference from my OEM coils. But, so far they've been holding up with my mods. __________________ F80 Gintani downpipes/Gintani Crank Hub Fix AA midpipe paired Dinan exhaust KW V3 coilover, Forgeline wheels, Ecutek Custom Tune MS109 by Counterspace Garage , SDgarage Built
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hassmaschine Major General 3973 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	Plasma coils are BS too. You're not going to see big gains from slight changes in spark energy. And none of these coils account for any tuning chages like dwell times and voltage, which no tuners address.
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12-21-2016, 02:31 AM	#11
WatashiEd Second Lieutenant 29 Rep 270 Posts Drives: 2015 F82 M4 DCT Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Depends, agree though for N/A n52 I think Okada/OP plasma project is an overkill, but for n54/n55 or those who is going F.I. route for their n52 mistress, improved spark energy yields improved ignition and greater combustion efficiency for those running high boost. Quick search on Okada review http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...gnition-coils/ Myth buster: LSX has proven on more than one occasion that coil upgrades do provide performance benefits including increased power you can see on the dyno http://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/i...one-take-form/ __________________ Sapphire Black M4 \| iPE - Valvetronic exhaust \| VRSF 3″ catless dp \| Bootmod 3 Stage 2 \| OEM LED alcantara steering wheel \| OEM M4 GTS CF hood \| Vorsteiner GT wing \| M Performance CF splitter \| Vorsteiner CF front lip \| M Performance CF side skirt extension \| 3D CF diffuser \| OEM CF mirror cap \| H&R lower spring \| Rays Engineering TE37 Ultra Bronze 20x10F 20x11R
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