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      11-18-2016, 09:35 PM   #1
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BKC Motorsport Intake Manifold

Does anyone have one of these? I know some people do


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      11-18-2016, 10:09 PM   #2
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Stopped reading as soon as it said "Hong Kong based company "
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      11-18-2016, 10:12 PM   #3
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Stopped reading as soon as it said "Hong Kong based company "
Thank you for your announcement. Do you have any other announcements you'd like to make?
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Yes. I read some more. Shipping doesn't make sense. For $65, they ship a bunch of units to one location? So then....everyone will have to pick up their purchase at a spot that not everyone would be able to get to. Or.... Pay more than double ($145) the shipping, to have it sent to individual locations. Not to mention the shipping price seeming pretty high for an intake manifold that is only $270.
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Yes. I read some more. Shipping doesn't make sense. For $65, they ship a bunch of units to one location? So then....everyone will have to pick up their purchase at a spot that not everyone would be able to get to. Or.... Pay more than double ($145) the shipping, to have it sent to individual locations. Not to mention the shipping price seeming pretty high for an intake manifold that is only $270.
Well, how much do you know about international shipping? They would probably arrive at some port crated up in a container. And as stated, there would be an additional shipping cost of some kind to get it to everyone's physical address. I'm not sure of the logistics but I know a few things. Shipping on that thing should be around what, $20 domestically? On 20 units thats $1,200 saved. Also, regarding logistics, what does the value of a product have to do with the cost of moving it from one place to another? You can't be serious.

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      11-19-2016, 02:44 AM   #6
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Sounds like you've got it all figured out. GL getting a group buy going for cheap China parts
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      11-19-2016, 10:57 AM   #7
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Stopped reading as soon as it said "Hong Kong based company "
This... at one point i wouldnt mind but im kind of done trusting overseas companies as well
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Sounds like you've got it all figured out. GL getting a group buy going for cheap China parts

Glad we have your blessing. Phew!
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This... at one point i wouldnt mind but im kind of done trusting overseas companies as well
I'm going to order one most likely. And I don't trust it. Not yet. And for 270 bucks it's hardly much faith required but I completely understand your position.
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What is the point of this aftermarket intake?
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What is the point of this aftermarket intake?
Ideally it'd even out flow between cylinders and allow for more efficient airflow in absolute terms. Integrating port injection along with a few barbs and ports is a nice bonus as well.

We'll have to see if this design works well.
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Ideally it'd even out flow between cylinders and allow for more efficient airflow in absolute terms. Integrating port injection along with a few barbs and ports is a nice bonus as well.

We'll have to see if this design works well.
Gotcha.
I will wait for someone else to test this because the design from what I see isn't that great.
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Gotcha.
I will wait for someone else to test this because the design from what I see isn't that great.
Which design? There are two for N54/N55

One of them is basically just the stock design, but with fuel injector ports. Meth/Nitrous NPT bungs could easily be welded on, so you wouldn't need a 800-1000 sandwich plate.

I am going to go out on a limb, and say that if you don't know the point of the intake, I'd find it hard to believe you actually knew what a good intake manifold design was if you saw one. Correct me if I'm wrong, and you actually have CFD analysis experience, don't take this as an insult, I do not mean it that way, its just an observation.

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Which design? There are two for N54/N55

One of them is basically just the stock design, but with fuel injector ports. Meth/Nitrous NPT bungs could easily be welded on, so you wouldn't need a 800-1000 sandwich plate.

I am going to go out on a limb, and say that if you don't know the point of the intake, I'd find it hard to believe you actually knew what a good intake manifold design was if you saw one. Correct me if I'm wrong, and you actually have CFD analysis experience, its just an observation.
Nah, I'm not going to be drawn into a who's smarter than who pissing match. If you think its great then buy it. If it works out for you then great.

I on the other hand will wait because I, having designed and built sheet metal manifolds for other applications, don't think the design is a very good one...who knows I could be wrong.
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Nah, I'm not going to be drawn into a who's smarter than who pissing match. If you think its great then buy it. If it works out for you then great.

I on the other hand will wait because I, having designed and built sheet metal manifolds for other applications, don't think the design is a very good one...who knows I could be wrong.
Can we all just appreciate his post for not being a douche?
Thanks for not being a douche.
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I'd like feedback before I spend the money then the time to install one.
I need reviews.
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I'm going to order one most likely. And I don't trust it. Not yet. And for 270 bucks it's hardly much faith required but I completely understand your position.
I hope you have great success honestly. Personally i would want another intake manifold simply just to not have a plastic one so i can put more pressure on. I never got a 2 step mainly because of that. Just since coming to this platform its made it rough to trust anything outside the U.S... but i think the product is fine
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Great design or not all is relative to how it compares to the OEM manifold and the price point really. It's not what I'd design for myself if I wanted everything, but for the price of a charge pipe if the figment and build quality is acceptable then you never know, could be a hit.
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Nah, I'm not going to be drawn into a who's smarter than who pissing match. If you think its great then buy it. If it works out for you then great.

I on the other hand will wait because I, having designed and built sheet metal manifolds for other applications, don't think the design is a very good one...who knows I could be wrong.
Its not a who is smarter pissing match, I know nothing about CFD analysis and it was an honest question. It simply concerns me that someone who designs manifolds would cast judgement while not realizing that there are clearly ports for injectors on the manifold. Six of them. Or do you confuse our cars for being port injected? If you did not pay that close attention or whatever, I can understand that. I made it clear that it wasn't meant as an insult.

If you really know as much as you say, to ask what the point of the manifold is, would be a very very snarky thing to say if it isn't naive. So you can claim I'm being in a pissing match, but you came in here with a bit of 'tude yourself.

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I'd like feedback before I spend the money then the time to install one.
I need reviews.
Install time, very good point. Luckily, there are multiple people who are in the process of testing them. We will have a verdict on it I'd say by next week or so.

Notice, that anyone who doesn't like it, isn't a fan of it, needs more information to be convinced, thats not a problem. But if you expect me to respect people that don't like it because of where it comes from, or its value to shipping cost ratio doesn't meet their standards, or post rhetorically obvious questions when they have some massive knowledge regarding sheet metal intake manifolds, yet can't make one for themselves...Well then you're expecting too much.

If you don't give it a chance because its chinese, that is great. Might be nice to hear about how it fits first before casting judgement. The phone in your hand and your macbook you're smashing keys on trying to prove me wrong, those things are made where? Gosh... I don't know why anyone who owns an N54 would HOPE that it didn't fit well. And the rest of the stuff in here is just silly. Don't say you have extensive knowledge about making sheet metal manifolds, show a degree of interest in buying a chinese one, yet not make one for yourself while asking rhetorical questions. If you don't like the design, you don't like the price, that is fine. No problem. Everything else is just negative vibe and don't be surprised when I respond to it. No wonder the smart people stopped coming to this forum. You guys realize all the smart people left and this is an empty husk of what it used to be, right? The people making the parts you buy only come here to sell it to you. They talk about it in other places, because they know the people who are here are just trolls who pretend to know a lot. lol. As stupid as apparently I am according to y'all, even I know that. I guess that is saying something about the crowd here.

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      11-20-2016, 02:28 AM   #21
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Looking good, price is great. I want one too. Which design will you buy? Thats supra/S54 style with stacks will flow perfect.

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