340 chargepipe

Blk340i · 10-24-2016, 08:26 PM

No not another thread about whether we need one. I came across this today and was just wondering if anyone else saw this.

mbanks21 · 10-24-2016, 08:43 PM

Ftp is an eBay "brand". Some have had luck, some haven't. When is ER releasing theirs?

Blk340i · 10-24-2016, 08:57 PM

I dunno. Mike, any idea?

Bee Pee · 10-25-2016, 03:14 AM

Is stock b58 CP a restriction / weak link ?

If not seems like a potentially unnecessary upgrade....

mbanks21 · 10-25-2016, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Is stock b58 CP a restriction / weak link ?

If not seems like a potentially unnecessary upgrade....

All stock charge pipes are weak links. They're plastic and prone to cracking even with stock boost

insanecoder · 10-25-2016, 08:50 AM

So how long usually does the little plastic chargepipe last before it goes boom?
2 years? 5?

mbanks21 · 10-25-2016, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by insanecoder

So how long usually does the little plastic chargepipe last before it goes boom?
2 years? 5?

Could be a week, could be forever. Is your piece of mind worth ~$300?

Bee Pee · 10-25-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

All stock charge pipes are weak links. They're plastic and prone to cracking even with stock boost

Is n20/26 CP a more prolific failure than n55 ?

insanecoder · 10-25-2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mbanks21

Could be a week, could be forever. Is your piece of mind worth ~$300?

Well there must be signs.. no? ..maybe regularly inspecting the connection for cracking/wear?
From the pictures online it looks to fail on the connector.. maybe alil more reinforcement there would help? silicone tape?

mike@x-ph.com · 10-25-2016, 12:16 PM

Is the B58 charge pipe showing signs of weakness?

mbanks21 · 10-25-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by insanecoder

Well there must be signs.. no? ..maybe regularly inspecting the connection for cracking/wear?
From the pictures online it looks to fail on the connector.. maybe alil more reinforcement there would help? silicone tape?

From being on the boards for the last few years there's no way to tell. It's like a heart attack, you can check your arteries every day but that one cheeseburger is gonna say "Oh no you di'nt" and explode. It's a piece of plastic pushing potentially 16-17psi, it could break at any time.

David@ActiveAutowerke · 10-25-2016, 12:54 PM

The B58 has 3 bolts that connect it to the throttle body instead of a clip like the older N54/55 engines. It also has a flexible coupler not far from it, and with the lack of a chassis-mounted front intercooler it is routed directly from the turbo to the throttle body. So when the engine torques and moves, the entire assembly moves together. The N54/55 charge pipe connected an intercooler that was fixed to the chassis to the engine, so with stock motor mounts it would flex it as the engine torqued over. I can't say for sure but I don't think there will be as many charge pipe failures with the B58.

Bee Pee · 10-25-2016, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by David@ActiveAutowerke

The B58 has 3 bolts that connect it to the throttle body instead of a clip like the older N54/55 engines. It also has a flexible coupler not far from it, and with the lack of a chassis-mounted front intercooler it is routed directly from the turbo to the throttle body. So when the engine torques and moves, the entire assembly moves together. The N54/55 charge pipe connected an intercooler that was fixed to the chassis to the engine, so with stock motor mounts it would flex it as the engine torqued over. I can't say for sure but I don't think there will be as many charge pipe failures with the B58.

I'd read the same elsewhere hence my query in an earlier post in this thread

DrifterX · 10-27-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by David@ActiveAutowerke

The B58 has 3 bolts that connect it to the throttle body instead of a clip like the older N54/55 engines. It also has a flexible coupler not far from it, and with the lack of a chassis-mounted front intercooler it is routed directly from the turbo to the throttle body. So when the engine torques and moves, the entire assembly moves together. The N54/55 charge pipe connected an intercooler that was fixed to the chassis to the engine, so with stock motor mounts it would flex it as the engine torqued over. I can't say for sure but I don't think there will be as many charge pipe failures with the B58.

+1

Sounds like a waste of money to me.

eluded · 10-29-2016, 01:44 AM

Agree with the above, the engine pushes over a bar of boost stock.

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