MPPK installed. Thoughts!

Zaman250 · 08-25-2016, 01:00 PM

Got the MPPK installed this week. Notice what seems like noticeable power gains, also given I was driving a 428i loaner for an entire 2 weeks (had to replace the DME apparently for me to get the MPPK [08/12 build].

That being said the gauges are updated to 400/400 yet they never exceed 300 when pinning the throttle. I know they are 'entertainment' for the driver. But it does concern me if they the tune was done properly. I am noticing burbling below 2500 without the MPE when letting off the throttle.

Anyone want to tell me I'm crazy and the gauges not exceeding the 300 of 400 as being 'irrelevant'?

Wires · 08-25-2016, 02:44 PM

I'd be questioning if it was actually programmed then. I'd assume the max value would match what the MPPK is rated for.

On the 340's, the max gauge value is 400/400, so you might be just seeing a general software upgrade to the car, and not have the tune portion...

Daggen · 08-25-2016, 03:21 PM

My B58 MPPSK shows just over 360 with gauge up to 400...

Zaman250 · 08-25-2016, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wires

I'd be questioning if it was actually programmed then. I'd assume the max value would match what the MPPK is rated for.

On the 340's, the max gauge value is 400/400, so you might be just seeing a general software upgrade to the car, and not have the tune portion...

To clarify the gauges show up to 400/400 however they never read above 300 during full throttle acceleration.

(leading me to believe the tune might have been done incorrectly?)

BEAR-AvHistory · 08-25-2016, 04:04 PM

They should show over 300 in WOT operation.

Zaman250 · 08-25-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

They should show over 300 in WOT operation.

Called a service adviser, will see what they say regarding the issue, described it as during WOT gauges never exceed 300. Feels kinda silly to base any assumptions off of the for fun gauges.

yoandry · 08-25-2016, 04:35 PM

It should pass over 300 on WOT. Mine goes around 330 @ 5500 rpm

Wires · 08-25-2016, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaj159

To clarify the gauges show up to 400/400 however they never read above 300 during full throttle acceleration.

(leading me to believe the tune might have been done incorrectly?)

Sorry, I know what you mean, I explained that not well.

I know the LCI has the default gauges set to a 400/400 scale. It sounds like the car got a firmware update that changed the scale values but not the tune to match (the firmware with the tune would have the max "fun" numbers changed from 300/300).

Give 'em hell.... you paid for it.

RoundelM3 · 08-26-2016, 08:32 AM

For 2013 335i with PWG, the MPPK adds 20 HP. Those gauges aren't really representative of true HP, but rather what the computer thinks it should read depending on throttle opening and engine load. There's a thread about that in this forum.

mike@x-ph.com · 08-26-2016, 04:38 PM

Take it back and ask them to check again

Wires · 08-30-2016, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by roundel335

For 2013 335i with PWG, the MPPK adds 20 HP. Those gauges aren't really representative of true HP, but rather what the computer thinks it should read depending on throttle opening and engine load. There's a thread about that in this forum.

Yes, but his should show the "real", "faked" number though. If it's showing the normal stock numbers, then it sounds like the firmware wasn't upgraded with the new tune.

EvenKeel · 08-30-2016, 08:33 PM

Always ask for a print out when doing software related mods. The print out would have shown that the DME was flashed with the updated software.

babyboss · 09-05-2016, 03:49 PM

my ppk was done on 135i but dealer had problem loading s/ware & didn't advise me !!

till I came back from dyno tests ..

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