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      04-12-2016, 12:24 AM   #1
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Will BMW NA step up, on airbag recalls?

Will BMW NA step up and do the right thing for customers who own vehicles that have known airbag recalls? I for one don't plan to buy any of the vehicles on the recall list until the vehicles are fixed. While currently the issue is with the driver side air bags... I'm willing to bet that all Takata airbags are going to eventually need to be replaced.

Does that mean my vehicle now instantly has a diminished resale value? I'm willing to bet it does I have also been eye'ing a CPO 2013 X5M... but those are also on the recall lists. So no point in owning another death trap that I shouldn't be driving on the road.

Has anyone made the effort to contact BMW NA to get a rental or loaner vehicle to use? It's already been established that issues with inflators have happened in vehicles that were NOT in humid areas as well. Actually I would prefer it if BMW could just disable or remove the airbags from the car. I'm perfectly happy with driving in a car and using the old skool method of a seat belt to save my life.

Acura is already providing rental cars to owners of their cars and have asked those owners to stop making payments on the vehicles.
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I received my airbag notice the other day. The notice also said my dealer doesn't have any replacements in stock
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I also got the recall notice and it said I'd be notified when the replacement airbags are ready.
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Will BMW NA step up and do the right thing for customers who own vehicles that have known airbag recalls? I for one don't plan to buy any of the vehicles on the recall list until the vehicles are fixed. While currently the issue is with the driver side air bags... I'm willing to bet that all Takata airbags are going to eventually need to be replaced.

Does that mean my vehicle now instantly has a diminished resale value? I'm willing to bet it does I have also been eye'ing a CPO 2013 X5M... but those are also on the recall lists. So no point in owning another death trap that I shouldn't be driving on the road.

Has anyone made the effort to contact BMW NA to get a rental or loaner vehicle to use? It's already been established that issues with inflators have happened in vehicles that were NOT in humid areas as well. Actually I would prefer it if BMW could just disable or remove the airbags from the car. I'm perfectly happy with driving in a car and using the old skool method of a seat belt to save my life.

Acura is already providing rental cars to owners of their cars and have asked those owners to stop making payments on the vehicles.
Check out this thread. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...1241639&page=5

That person contacted BMW NA and was able to get a rental. I contacted them via email on Saturday to see what my options were. I should hear back from them today as they're not there over the weekend.

I'll let you know what I hear from them.
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I'm suppose to get it dropped off for the recall and get a rental. However, their service manager called me and said the air bags are on back order, they had to reschedule the appointment : (
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My concern with the rental is that now your car will just sit on their lot? Maybe even put it in some type of storage facility? I know the risk to drive but from my dealer days any car that sat around for to long definitely got poor treatment.
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Will BMW NA step up and do the right thing for customers who own vehicles that have known airbag recalls? I for one don't plan to buy any of the vehicles on the recall list until the vehicles are fixed. While currently the issue is with the driver side air bags... I'm willing to bet that all Takata airbags are going to eventually need to be replaced.

Does that mean my vehicle now instantly has a diminished resale value? I'm willing to bet it does I have also been eye'ing a CPO 2013 X5M... but those are also on the recall lists. So no point in owning another death trap that I shouldn't be driving on the road.

Has anyone made the effort to contact BMW NA to get a rental or loaner vehicle to use? It's already been established that issues with inflators have happened in vehicles that were NOT in humid areas as well. Actually I would prefer it if BMW could just disable or remove the airbags from the car. I'm perfectly happy with driving in a car and using the old skool method of a seat belt to save my life.

Acura is already providing rental cars to owners of their cars and have asked those owners to stop making payments on the vehicles.
I think your being overly dramatic i get in my 07 335i and 11 x5 and dont worry about it
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You all need to calm down. There's only so much they can do.
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Will BMW NA step up and do the right thing for customers who own vehicles that have known airbag recalls? I for one don't plan to buy any of the vehicles on the recall list until the vehicles are fixed. While currently the issue is with the driver side air bags... I'm willing to bet that all Takata airbags are going to eventually need to be replaced.

Does that mean my vehicle now instantly has a diminished resale value? I'm willing to bet it does I have also been eye'ing a CPO 2013 X5M... but those are also on the recall lists. So no point in owning another death trap that I shouldn't be driving on the road.

Has anyone made the effort to contact BMW NA to get a rental or loaner vehicle to use? It's already been established that issues with inflators have happened in vehicles that were NOT in humid areas as well. Actually I would prefer it if BMW could just disable or remove the airbags from the car. I'm perfectly happy with driving in a car and using the old skool method of a seat belt to save my life.

Acura is already providing rental cars to owners of their cars and have asked those owners to stop making payments on the vehicles.
Check out this thread. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...639&page=5

That person contacted BMW NA and was able to get a rental. I contacted them via email on Saturday to see what my options were. I should hear back from them today as they're not there over the weekend.

I'll let you know what I hear from them.
Please keep us posted I would like to know as well. I'm tired of hearing people call out other people for not wanting to drive the car with a potential bomb going off in the face. This was not an issue caused by us this was a manufacturer error they should be catering to our every need.
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Please keep us posted I would like to know as well. I'm tired of hearing people call out other people for not wanting to drive the car with a potential bomb going off in the face. This was not an issue caused by us this was a manufacturer error they should be catering to our every need.
I got a response from BMW NA that said they have assigned someone to research my inquiry and he will be calling me.
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My concern with the rental is that now your car will just sit on their lot? Maybe even put it in some type of storage facility? I know the risk to drive but from my dealer days any car that sat around for to long definitely got poor treatment.
Your car will not sit on their lot. Why would they waste the space?
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      04-12-2016, 10:33 AM   #12
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The Takata recall affects more than 40 million vehicles worldwide (approx. 34+ million potentially affected in the US). They include the following car brands.
Acura
Lexus
BMW
Mazda
Chrysler
Mitsubishi
Dodge
Nissan
Ford
Subaru
General Motors (includes Pontiac, Saab)
Toyota
Honda
Infiniti

According to the NHTSA, of April 7, 2016, 7,522,533 air bags have been replaced. Now with more than 40+ million air bags to replace, you can’t expect a recall like this to be done in a snap. There is a process, or guideline, that must be followed and it takes time for suppliers to get all the air bag components, put together all the essential parts, and send them to the respective dealers for installation.

I got the recall notice on my 2010 335i last week. And on my 2005 Mustang GT, I got it last year. When I talked to a Ford customer service agent about my Mustang, they said they’re replacing as soon as the air bag replacement parts come available in accordance to priority. Since my vehicle is 2005, it has a higher priority over new models, but I am still waiting for the official call to bring it in. However, I am not panicking whatsoever. When the time comes, it'll come.

Now while you’re waiting for your official call to bring it in, drive safely and responsively, be alert of your surroundings at all times, don’t text and drive, don’t tailgate, etc, etc. Or, go back to the basics of what you learned in driving school or whatever driver education you took back when you were a teen. If you do that, you won’t ever get into an accident that would cause your air bag to deploy and you’ll be fine. Just common sense.

As far as how it affects the value of your car, it’s an important supplementary safety device. You can’t put a price on safety.
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Please keep us posted I would like to know as well. I'm tired of hearing people call out other people for not wanting to drive the car with a potential bomb going off in the face. This was not an issue caused by us this was a manufacturer error they should be catering to our every need.
In principle, sure. But the reality is this is an enormous recall and to put everyone in a rental until their airbag can be replaced is simply not realistic. According to the recall notice I received from BMW they are not currently aware of any ruptures of the airbag used in at least my model with the sport wheel. The concern is certainly understandable, but let's keep it in perspective.

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Please keep us posted I would like to know as well. I'm tired of hearing people call out other people for not wanting to drive the car with a potential bomb going off in the face. This was not an issue caused by us this was a manufacturer error they should be catering to our every need.
In principle, sure. But the reality is this is an enormous recall and to put everyone in a rental until their airbag can be replaced is simply not realistic. According to the recall notice I received from BMW they are not currently aware of any ruptures of the airbags used in our models. The concern is understandable, but let's keep it in perspective.
I agree with you 100% my comment was more directed at those who act as if though safety is not a factor. I've googled a couple of images of crashes of the Takata made airbags kill people and it's not a pretty site to say the least. It would be nice to drive a loaner or rental on bmws dime though
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There needs to be a little perspective here. The chances of being injured by the airbag in a BMW is really minimal. At this point, BMW is recalling ALL of the Takata airbags they ever used for liability reasons. The very last thing they every want to deal with is a plaintiff's lawyer saying "but you KNEW this was a possibility, and you did nothing". So even with a vanishingly small chance of an issue, they issued the recall.

For perspective, out of 40 million possible defective airbags, there have been something less than 200 injuries and a handful of deaths. You are at much greater risk of injury getting in and out of the shower every day.

I guess if you are THAT worried you could always wear a full-face helmet and a neck guard while driving.
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There needs to be a little perspective here. The chances of being injured by the airbag in a BMW is really minimal. At this point, BMW is recalling ALL of the Takata airbags they ever used for liability reasons. The very last thing they every want to deal with is a plaintiff's lawyer saying "but you KNEW this was a possibility, and you did nothing". So even with a vanishingly small chance of an issue, they issued the recall.

For perspective, out of 40 million possible defective airbags, there have been something less than 200 injuries and a handful of deaths. You are at much greater risk of injury getting in and out of the shower every day.

I guess if you are THAT worried you could always wear a full-face helmet and a neck guard while driving.
I already wear a helmet guess all I'm missing is the neck guard
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I think your being overly dramatic i get in my 07 335i and 11 x5 and dont worry about it
You know... everyday someone new is getting killed by a Takata airbag. While no one yet has been unlucky in the Takata airbag roulette game... doesn't mean that tomorrow YOU won't be the first victim?

I'm not sure about you... but I do have something to look forward to in my life and a family to take care of, so I do worry about the Takata Airbag Roulette game that I must play everyday. Sometimes poop happens and even with the best of intentions we can all freeze up in a moment of surprise and get into a very simple fender bender and that would set off the computer to fire the airbags which would KILL ME rather than save my life.

Just saying.
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If they don't have to reprogram

If they don't have to reprogram swapping in the new air bag
should not take that long.
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You know... everyday someone new is getting killed by a Takata airbag. While no one yet has been unlucky in the Takata airbag roulette game... doesn't mean that tomorrow YOU won't be the first victim?

I'm not sure about you... but I do have something to look forward to in my life and a family to take care of, so I do worry about the Takata Airbag Roulette game that I must play everyday. Sometimes poop happens and even with the best of intentions we can all freeze up in a moment of surprise and get into a very simple fender bender and that would set off the computer to fire the airbags which would KILL ME rather than save my life.

Just saying.
If you are that worried, go find the crash sensors in the bumper and disconnect them. Put up with the airbag light until the parts come in. Reconnect the crash sensors before taking the car in for the swap. Simple.
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This is kind of clutch. Need to fix the emblem on the steering wheel lmao which required a new airbag if you want to replace vs. a stick on. I have a stick on now but it bugs be cause I can see the original outline below it.
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I got a call back from BMW NA yesterday and they told me to contact my local dealership to talk about getting a rental. So I guess if you have questions about getting a rental while waiting, contact your dealership instead of BMW NA as they won't offer much help.
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