Automatic emergency braking

225 · 03-17-2016, 11:02 AM

Having a quick look at work so can't spend hours on the site, I cant see any options that have this?
The feature I mean is that if the car senses something in front and the driver has not braked the car stops by itself.

The reason I ask is that I have a loan skoda at the moment and it has this feature. Whilst out today a car turned off in front along a slow road so I pulled over to the right quite safely to go past and the stupid thing kicked in and slammed on the brakes. Luckily we were not going fast and no one was behind us.

I want to make sure such things do not exist on the new 340!

I have not ordered any driver assist packs.

Nobby Clark · 03-17-2016, 11:12 AM

If it does it will be an option.

JustChris · 03-17-2016, 11:12 AM

Can't resist another chance to share this clanger.........

I don't think BMW has this this as an option on the F30 yet let alone standard?

225 · 03-17-2016, 11:30 AM

Ouch! Yes a working version of that! On a fabia of all things.

stu14t · 03-17-2016, 03:43 PM

I've just had a 65 plate X1 as a loaner while mine was in. I think it must of had something like that in. A guy stuck his nose out of a junction on the left and the car started bleeping at me. I'm not sure if it was actually going to take over or just beep louder.

AdmiralGant · 03-17-2016, 03:50 PM

I picked up my new 330d M Sport Saloon last week and it has it, I did not tick an option for it, but did for adaptive cruise.

It beeped loadly at me and had a red warning up last week when a car was waiting to turn right in the centre of the road and I went round it, but it did not brake.

My last car, a VW Golf GTD had it too, it sometimes braked, it even braked because a plastic bag was floating about in the road.

You can switch it off on the 3 series, I have a button below the lights buttons on the right of the steering wheel.

ajfoggy · 03-17-2016, 04:27 PM

the mrs has this on her qashqai. Just causes beeps and then more beeps from arguments.

Apparently it never happens when she is driving just when i'm driving.

SkyJawa · 03-17-2016, 04:37 PM

Front assist, it's by no means perfected yet.....

AlfaM · 03-17-2016, 04:39 PM

I've got Active Cruise Control and HUD and it displays a 'Red Car' in the HUD and bleeps if I'm getting a bit close to the car infront. It appears to be a passive system with no application of the brakes etc..

The image is similar to this...

335d Touring Xdrive · 03-17-2016, 04:48 PM

Quite a few VW Golf owners have been complaining about this feature. As they approach a vehicle to overtake it, at the point they increase their speed to pull out and overtake, the bloody thing slams the brakes on. They are not happy over there in the VW camp. Neither would I be if I had this feature. Not good for the fast sprints in the countryside on a Sunday morning.

dizzy619 · 03-17-2016, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonie

I've got Active Cruise Control and HUD and it displays a 'Red Car' in the HUD and bleeps if I'm getting a bit close to the car infront. It appears to be a passive system with no application of the brakes etc..

The image is similar to this...

I have had it intervene only once in a year..... Up till then I thought it was only passive too....

teaston · 03-17-2016, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdmiralGant

I picked up my new 330d M Sport Saloon last week and it has it, I did not tick an option for it, but did for adaptive cruise.

It beeped loadly at me and had a red warning up last week when a car was waiting to turn right in the centre of the road and I went round it, but it did not brake.

My last car, a VW Golf GTD had it too, it sometimes braked, it even braked because a plastic bag was floating about in the road.

You can switch it off on the 3 series, I have a button below the lights buttons on the right of the steering wheel.

You can also turn down the sensitivity in the settings menu.

davybull · 03-17-2016, 07:05 PM

I have had it apply the brakes once when a vehicle was turning left in front of me and I went to go around him.

Must use the radar that the adaptive cruise uses.

Dave.

subsy · 03-18-2016, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335d Touring Xdrive

Quite a few VW Golf owners have been complaining about this feature. As they approach a vehicle to overtake it, at the point they increase their speed to pull out and overtake, the bloody thing slams the brakes on. They are not happy over there in the VW camp. Neither would I be if I had this feature. Not good for the fast sprints in the countryside on a Sunday morning.

I had a mk7 golf - think it was part of the adaptive cruise control. It would sometime apply just before going round tight right handlers and it thought the tree on the apex was something you were about to hit. Bloody awful.

I'm hoping the BMW system (I'm assuming a it's part of Active Cruise) is much better - reports above suggest it is.

subsy · 03-18-2016, 02:50 AM

This is the blurb about the 'Dynamic Safety' option, also included in the (rather confusingly named) 'Active Security Package'

Dynamic Safety is the BMW ConnectedDrive preventive passenger protection system. After the front seat belts are buckled, they are automatically pretensioned when the car starts moving. When a critical situation arises on the road, the front seat belts are pretensioned and the side windows and sliding roof are closed, if required. The front passenger seat backrest is automatically returned to an upright position. Examples of dangerous situations include emergency braking initiated by the driver, or if the vehicle demonstrated excessive understeer or oversteer. In vehicles fitted with Approach control warning or Approach control warning with light braking function, imminent collisions with vehicles driving or stopped ahead can be recognised within certain systematic limits. In the event of a crash, the system in the vehicle can - in certain situations - automatically bring the car to a stop without the driver's intervention. This can minimise the risk of a further collision and reduce the accident's consequences. The Attentiveness Assistant also recognises if the driver is displaying signs of increasing inattentiveness or fatigue on long, monotonous drives. This system analyses the steering response and reacts to irregular driving behaviour by issuing a message in the Control Display suggesting to the driver to take a break and emitting an acoustic signal.

Benefits at a glance:
- reduces the risk of an accident by warning about fatigue or inattentiveness
- minimises the consequences of a collision by bringing the vehicle to a standstill if an imminent collision is recognised

This is the blurb from the 'Active Cruise Control with Stop and Go Function'

Active Cruise Control (ACC) with 'Stop and Go' function incl. radar-based approach control warning with full and targeted braking offers the option of greater comfort and safety in traffic jams. The system maintains a speed preselected by the driver, as well as the distance to the driver ahead. The vehicle takes over accelerating and braking and keeps the predetermined distance to the car ahead even in slow-moving traffic and down to a stand-still in traffic jams. If the car approaches the vehicle ahead of it, or if another vehicle enters the lane, the system precisely adjusts the speed to take the other vehicle into account. The 'Stop and Go' function not only automatically regulates speed down to standstill, it also automatically accelerates back up to the desired speed within a limited time frame as soon as traffic flow allows. If a vehicle ahead brakes suddenly, the BMW responds immediately when the approach control warning is activated. The system operates in steps. A warning symbol is first displayed, then the symbol begins blinking and an acoustic warning is emitted, and finally the brakes are applied.

Benefits at a glance:
- automatic regulation of speed and the distance to the vehicle ahead
- eases the burden on the driver and is particularly convenient in heavy traffic
- increased driving comfort in typical start-stop driving situations
- reduced risk of rear-end collisions

Stooo · 03-18-2016, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subsy

I had a mk7 golf - think it was part of the adaptive cruise control. It would sometime apply just before going round tight right handlers and it thought the tree on the apex was something you were about to hit. Bloody awful.

I'm hoping the BMW system (I'm assuming a it's part of Active Cruise) is much better - reports above suggest it is.

Having ACC on while going round twisty roads is a pretty sure fire way to end up in a ditch. It's made for motorways and won't behave when getting close to objects on the other side of roads.

subsy · 03-18-2016, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stooo

Having ACC on while going round twisty roads is a pretty sure fire way to end up in a ditch. It's made for motorways and won't behave when getting close to objects on the other side of roads.

You misunderstand.

ACC wasn't on. I'm not an idiot

The active braking 'safety' function was something that only came with the ACC option on the spec sheet because it required the camera/radar

225 · 03-18-2016, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335d Touring Xdrive

Quite a few VW Golf owners have been complaining about this feature. As they approach a vehicle to overtake it, at the point they increase their speed to pull out and overtake, the bloody thing slams the brakes on. They are not happy over there in the VW camp. Neither would I be if I had this feature. Not good for the fast sprints in the countryside on a Sunday morning.

Would make sense its probably the same one in the fabia from the vw parts bin. Bl00dy should be in the bin.

ep22jg · 03-18-2016, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 335d Touring Xdrive

Quite a few VW Golf owners have been complaining about this feature. As they approach a vehicle to overtake it, at the point they increase their speed to pull out and overtake, the bloody thing slams the brakes on. They are not happy over there in the VW camp. Neither would I be if I had this feature. Not good for the fast sprints in the countryside on a Sunday morning.

Probably the same system I had on my Audi S4

Even though adaptive cruise wasn't on, it would always pick up things in front of the car. It would either flash up a red car symbol, bleep or worse was as described above.
Just as you pull out to overtake, it would judder the breaks, flash up the red car and beep!!
The first time it did it, I nearly shit myself as it made me jump!!

This is the sole reason I won't spend money on adaptive cruise as an option.

Just not good enough IMO

SkyJawa · 03-18-2016, 06:37 AM

You get front assist if you have ACC. Its active even if ACC isn't unless you turn it off.

Theres sensitivity settings in iDrive and a button to turn it off altogether below the light switch area.....

davybull · 03-18-2016, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Theres sensitivity settings in iDrive and a button to turn it off altogether below the light switch area.....

Didn't know that!! I'll have to have a look.

Yes I know

Dave.

hmmwvj · 09-19-2019, 08:58 AM

Does anyone know if AEB vetoes accelerator input if the car is at a stop?

Say if I floor it while stopped in traffic, can I expect to hit the car in front, not move at all, or move and have the brakes applied?

03-17-2016, 11:02 AM	#1
225 Brigadier General 2281 Rep 4,933 Posts Drives: 340i Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Uk iTrader: (0)	Automatic emergency braking Having a quick look at work so can't spend hours on the site, I cant see any options that have this? The feature I mean is that if the car senses something in front and the driver has not braked the car stops by itself. The reason I ask is that I have a loan skoda at the moment and it has this feature. Whilst out today a car turned off in front along a slow road so I pulled over to the right quite safely to go past and the stupid thing kicked in and slammed on the brakes. Luckily we were not going fast and no one was behind us. I want to make sure such things do not exist on the new 340! I have not ordered any driver assist packs.
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JustChris General 17488 Rep 25,114 Posts Drives: Tesla MYRWD Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Can't resist another chance to share this clanger......... I don't think BMW has this this as an option on the F30 yet let alone standard? __________________ My car made front page of Bimmerpost
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stu14t Major 451 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 330i MSport Pro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	I've just had a 65 plate X1 as a loaner while mine was in. I think it must of had something like that in. A guy stuck his nose out of a junction on the left and the car started bleeping at me. I'm not sure if it was actually going to take over or just beep louder. __________________ Current - 2021 G20 330i M Sport+ Gone - 2017 F30 335d M Sport + in San Marino Blue Gone - 2015 F30 LCI 320d M Sport+ Step Auto Gone - 2012 F30 320 ED Gone - 2011 E87 118d
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AdmiralGant Private First Class 57 Rep 124 Posts Drives: M340i saloon Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Suffolk iTrader: (0)	I picked up my new 330d M Sport Saloon last week and it has it, I did not tick an option for it, but did for adaptive cruise. It beeped loadly at me and had a red warning up last week when a car was waiting to turn right in the centre of the road and I went round it, but it did not brake. My last car, a VW Golf GTD had it too, it sometimes braked, it even braked because a plastic bag was floating about in the road. You can switch it off on the 3 series, I have a button below the lights buttons on the right of the steering wheel. __________________ M340i saloon, mineral grey, comfort plus pack, driver assistant pro pack, HK sound, mineral grey Also drive BMW Z4 S Drive 23i Auto, Suzuki Jimny JLX+
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ajfoggy Brigadier General 1517 Rep 3,560 Posts Drives: C63s - S205 - Brilliant Blue Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Warrington iTrader: (0)	the mrs has this on her qashqai. Just causes beeps and then more beeps from arguments. Apparently it never happens when she is driving just when i'm driving.
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SkyJawa Major General 3719 Rep 8,636 Posts Drives: F10 530d Join Date: May 2014 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (1)	Front assist, it's by no means perfected yet.....
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AlfaM Captain 282 Rep 613 Posts Drives: M340d Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I've got Active Cruise Control and HUD and it displays a 'Red Car' in the HUD and bleeps if I'm getting a bit close to the car infront. It appears to be a passive system with no application of the brakes etc.. The image is similar to this... Attached Images
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335d Touring Xdrive Captain 319 Rep 821 Posts Drives: 2016 335d Touring Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Northumberland iTrader: (0)	Quite a few VW Golf owners have been complaining about this feature. As they approach a vehicle to overtake it, at the point they increase their speed to pull out and overtake, the bloody thing slams the brakes on. They are not happy over there in the VW camp. Neither would I be if I had this feature. Not good for the fast sprints in the countryside on a Sunday morning.
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davybull First Lieutenant 167 Rep 375 Posts Drives: 335d xDrive touring mSport Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Wigan UK iTrader: (0)	I have had it apply the brakes once when a vehicle was turning left in front of me and I went to go around him. Must use the radar that the adaptive cruise uses. Dave. __________________ F31 335d xDrive MSport touring. Sapphire black with Coral leather. Ordered 27\03\2015, Build Finished 17/4/2015. Collected 20/05/2015.
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subsy Major 453 Rep 1,163 Posts Drives: 340i F31 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Nr Reading, UK iTrader: (0)	This is the blurb about the 'Dynamic Safety' option, also included in the (rather confusingly named) 'Active Security Package' Dynamic Safety is the BMW ConnectedDrive preventive passenger protection system. After the front seat belts are buckled, they are automatically pretensioned when the car starts moving. When a critical situation arises on the road, the front seat belts are pretensioned and the side windows and sliding roof are closed, if required. The front passenger seat backrest is automatically returned to an upright position. Examples of dangerous situations include emergency braking initiated by the driver, or if the vehicle demonstrated excessive understeer or oversteer. In vehicles fitted with Approach control warning or Approach control warning with light braking function, imminent collisions with vehicles driving or stopped ahead can be recognised within certain systematic limits. In the event of a crash, the system in the vehicle can - in certain situations - automatically bring the car to a stop without the driver's intervention. This can minimise the risk of a further collision and reduce the accident's consequences. The Attentiveness Assistant also recognises if the driver is displaying signs of increasing inattentiveness or fatigue on long, monotonous drives. This system analyses the steering response and reacts to irregular driving behaviour by issuing a message in the Control Display suggesting to the driver to take a break and emitting an acoustic signal. Benefits at a glance: - reduces the risk of an accident by warning about fatigue or inattentiveness - minimises the consequences of a collision by bringing the vehicle to a standstill if an imminent collision is recognised This is the blurb from the 'Active Cruise Control with Stop and Go Function' Active Cruise Control (ACC) with 'Stop and Go' function incl. radar-based approach control warning with full and targeted braking offers the option of greater comfort and safety in traffic jams. The system maintains a speed preselected by the driver, as well as the distance to the driver ahead. The vehicle takes over accelerating and braking and keeps the predetermined distance to the car ahead even in slow-moving traffic and down to a stand-still in traffic jams. If the car approaches the vehicle ahead of it, or if another vehicle enters the lane, the system precisely adjusts the speed to take the other vehicle into account. The 'Stop and Go' function not only automatically regulates speed down to standstill, it also automatically accelerates back up to the desired speed within a limited time frame as soon as traffic flow allows. If a vehicle ahead brakes suddenly, the BMW responds immediately when the approach control warning is activated. The system operates in steps. A warning symbol is first displayed, then the symbol begins blinking and an acoustic warning is emitted, and finally the brakes are applied. Benefits at a glance: - automatic regulation of speed and the distance to the vehicle ahead - eases the burden on the driver and is particularly convenient in heavy traffic - increased driving comfort in typical start-stop driving situations - reduced risk of rear-end collisions
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SkyJawa Major General 3719 Rep 8,636 Posts Drives: F10 530d Join Date: May 2014 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (1)	You get front assist if you have ACC. Its active even if ACC isn't unless you turn it off. Theres sensitivity settings in iDrive and a button to turn it off altogether below the light switch area.....
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hmmwvj Private 11 Rep 62 Posts Drives: F30N 320i Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: MY iTrader: (0)	Does anyone know if AEB vetoes accelerator input if the car is at a stop? Say if I floor it while stopped in traffic, can I expect to hit the car in front, not move at all, or move and have the brakes applied?
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