[Ramos]

Adaptive suspension on the M2? Sorry I don't seem to be able to find a definitive answer in the other pricing/standard equipment threads

[miiipilot]

Nope, no AS. Not even an option

[WAY]

I think the consensus is that it's variable suspension but not adaptive suspension. Can one of you in Brussel or Detroit just look under the wheel arches. If it's variable in anyway there will be a wire at the top of it.

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by WAY

I think the consensus is that it's variable suspension but not adaptive suspension. Can one of you in Brussel or Detroit just look under the wheel arches. If it's variable in anyway there will be a wire at the top of it.

There is a thread in the pics subforum of the suspension. There does not appear to be any wiring.

[metrickid]

No, no and no. Static suspension without any adjustments.

[mofomat]

People asking the same questions over and over again when the answer has been discussed ad nasueum really get on my tits.

What the Hell is wrong with people?

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by mofomat

People asking the same questions over and over again when the answer has been discussed ad nasueum really get on my tits.

What the Hell is wrong with people?

Not everyone spends all day on these forums. I'm sure when you were born, you didn't understand calculus and that shit's hundreds of years old and talked about many times more than this.

Is something wrong with you?

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

Not everyone spends all day on these forums. I'm sure when you were born, you didn't understand calculus and that shit's hundreds of years old and talked about many times more than this.

Is something wrong with you?

His tone is a bit rough around the edges but people really suck at searching. Posts are saved on a forum for a reason...

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

Not everyone spends all day on these forums. I'm sure when you were born, you didn't understand calculus and that shit's hundreds of years old and talked about many times more than this.

Is something wrong with you?

What makes you think I spend all day on these forums? I don't. I pop in when I can, and 75% of my time seems to be spent wading through reposts and people asking inane questions. The car was officially launched nearly three months ago, and yet I'm still reading posts asking "does it have adaptive suspension?" or "does it have a CFRP roof?" Both of these questions were answered on day one. I read the official press release. Why can't other people do the same?

Originally Posted by metrickid

His tone is a bit rough around the edges but people really suck at searching. Posts are saved on a forum for a reason...

Thanks. You get me.

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by mofomat

What makes you think I spend all day on these forums? I don't. I pop in when I can, and 75% of my time seems to be spent wading through reposts and people asking inane questions. The car was officially launched nearly three months ago, and yet I'm still reading posts asking "does it have adaptive suspension?" or "does it have a CFRP roof?" Both of these questions were answered on day one. I read the official press release. Why can't other people do the same?

I'm not saying you spend all day on these forums. But your question seems to indicate people have spent ANY time on these forums and many simply see the front page of Bimmerpost, click the banner post about the latest news which happens to be on the M2 and then ask a question about it. 9 times out of 10 it is a question which has already been asked, or a comment which anyone who has been on these forums more than a day has heard a million times already. Plus, Internet forums have been around for years. This isn't new - people do not search. I love to research, but I understand most don't. You can be a dick about it, but all you do is add another useless post that the rest of us have to read. How ironic is that???

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

I'm not saying you spend all day on these forums. But your question seems to indicate people have spent ANY time on these forums and many simply see the front page of Bimmerpost, click the banner post about the latest news which happens to be on the M2 and then ask a question about it. 9 times out of 10 it is a question which has already been asked, or a comment which anyone who has been on these forums more than a day has heard a million times already. Plus, Internet forums have been around for years. This isn't new - people do not search. I love to research, but I understand most don't. You can be a dick about it, but all you do is add another useless post that the rest of us have to read. How ironic is that???

You have a lot of faith in people. I don't.

Most of the time people are just too lazy to do even the smallest amount of research. It's selfish and it's lazy. Like this very thread for example. A whole new thread which was started to ask something which is discussed everywhere on this forum, and in the official press release. It just clogs up the forum and wastes people's time. (And don't say that this post is wasting time. It's not. I'm hoping people will read and take note).

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by mofomat

You have a lot of faith in people. I don't.

Most of the time people are just too lazy to do even the smallest amount of research. It's selfish and it's lazy.

I have no faith I guess. Telling people that they could have searched means you hope they might be less lazy next time. I just automatically assume it's a lost cause so I save my anger for bitching about shitty blue colors on cars instead.

[Ramos]

I'm the OP, have been a member on here since 2008 with major contributions to this community and a higher reputation and post count than any of you.

I do not appreciate the negative comments one bit, if anything it is you who have not read my OP

The suspension question was not obvious nor settled, which is stated in my OP along with an apology just in case ..

To compare this question to carbon fiber roof question just shows you are the ones who are not following the news very closely and are not paying attention and therefore wasting our time.

[metrickid]

Originally Posted by Ramos

I'm the OP, have been a member on here since 2008 with major contributions to this community and a higher reputation and post count than any of you.

It was already confirmed months ago, I have no idea why people even started to question it again. All I can think of is the incompetent employee at the Brussels show that also said it had a twin turbo engine. Solid guy!

And sorry to burst your bubble, but post count and reputation means nothing.

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by metrickid

It was already confirmed months ago, I have no idea why people even started to question it again. All I can think of is the incompetent employee at the Brussels show that also said it had a twin turbo engine. Solid guy!

And sorry to burst your bubble, but post count and reputation means nothing.

To be honest, it isn't entirely clear. Ramos and I have both been around these M2 forums since they were still tied to the regular 2 series forums. In the recent months, we have seen cars in other countries come standard with different options (i.e. sunroof) which we won't be getting and so it's not entirely unreasonable to think that NA will get some other changes. Add to that recent photographs showing the driving dynamics iDrive screens highlighting the shocks/dampers as part of the tuning when pressing the sport button - one starts to question things.

We can't go off interviews and discussions or official sources because time and time again we have seen those to be wrong. Just look at the conversation an "M specialist" had with a forum member at the auto show in Belgium. Information is just all over the place. Why you guys are unable to see where the confusion is... I don't know. It's there.

But I don't see the M2 getting dynamic damper settings - regardless of what images, discussions, etc. come up in the next days. Until someone drives one and says "The dampers stiffen when I press the sport button", I will just assume it is fixed.

[metrickid]

Sigh, I'm not wasting more time on this now... I'm out.

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by metrickid

Sigh, I'm not wasting more time on this now... I'm out.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by Ramos

I'm the OP, have been a member on here since 2008 with major contributions to this community and a higher reputation and post count than any of you.

And your point is?

Originally Posted by Ramos

I do not appreciate the negative comments one bit, if anything it is you who have not read my OP

The suspension question was not obvious nor settled, which is stated in my OP along with an apology just in case ..

But it IS settled! It IS obvious and has been from October last year, but nobody takes any notice when people explain to them that the suspension is not adaptive. It even said it in the official press release. People like you just add to the confusion!

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

To be honest, it isn't entirely clear.

It is absolutely crystal clear if you read the official press release and specs!! They were available from DAY ONE!!

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

Ramos and I have both been around these M2 forums since they were still tied to the regular 2 series forums. In the recent months, we have seen cars in other countries come standard with different options (i.e. sunroof) which we won't be getting and so it's not entirely unreasonable to think that NA will get some other changes.

You really haven't a clue what you're talking about do you? The M2 has been built from the ground up WITHOUT adaptive suspension. They're not going to suddenly add it for the U.S., especially not on such a niche product.

It's a whole different ball game when it comes to other options that certain markets may decide to offer.

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

Add to that recent photographs showing the driving dynamics iDrive screens highlighting the shocks/dampers as part of the tuning when pressing the sport button - one starts to question things.

We can't go off interviews and discussions or official sources because time and time again we have seen those to be wrong. Just look at the conversation an "M specialist" had with a forum member at the auto show in Belgium. Information is just all over the place. Why you guys are unable to see where the confusion is... I don't know. It's there.

I said from the very start that the guy wasn't going to be speaking to any experts at the Brussels motor show (I'm going there tomorrow by the way). These M "experts" don't confuse me because I don't take any notice of them! SO no, it doesn't "add" to the confusion.

There was an interview with an M engineer printed in CAR Magazine before Christmas and there was a thread posted about it on here. In his own words the M2 doesn't have adaptive dampening.

Why people are speaking to muppets on the BMW stand at the Brussels motor show, I do not know. I did warn them but nobody takes any notice.

http://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1206134

[hyperzulu]

Originally Posted by mofomat

You really haven't a clue what you're talking about do you? The M2 has been built from the ground up WITHOUT adaptive suspension. They're not going to suddenly add it for the U.S., especially not on such a niche product.

It's a whole different ball game when it comes to other options that certain markets may decide to offer.

"Built from the ground up"? The car is a derivative of other cars that DO have adaptive suspension. Both the 2 series and the M3/4 have it. I agree that the suspension will be fixed, but now you're just being silly.

[mofomat]

Originally Posted by hyperzulu

"Built from the ground up"? The car is a derivative of other cars that DO have adaptive suspension. Both the 2 series and the M3/4 have it. I agree that the suspension will be fixed, but now you're just being silly.

You really do not have a clue what you're talking about do you? The M2 is a unique car. Just because it uses parts from other cars it doesn't mean it handles the same. You think because it has parts in common with the M3/M4 and the 2 Series they can just stick adaptive suspension on the M2 "because the other cars have it"? Engineers spend thousands of hours fine tuning the handling. They're not just going to add adaptive dampening without spending thousands of more hours developing the M2, and for a very limited production car it's not worth it!!

[Ramos]

I'm actually glad it will be fixed then, I don't like the adaptive feature on my M235, comfort is too soft and sport is useless unless you're on a track or canyon road that's very smooth..
I prefer the fixed setting if it's done right,

[Ramos]

Originally Posted by mofomat

You really do not have a clue what you're talking about do you? The M2 is a unique car. Just because it uses parts from other cars it doesn't mean it handles the same. You think because it has parts in common with the M3/M4 and the 2 Series they can just stick adaptive suspension on the M2 "because the other cars have it"? Engineers spend thousands of hours fine tuning the handling. They're not just going to add adaptive dampening without spending thousands of more hours developing the M2, and for a very limited production car it's not worth it!! What a silly and naive post!

You are rude and this kind of personal attack is not warranted nor welcome here.

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